Real Metal Detectors

[Berti]

Hello everybody!

I am Robert from Albania. I am new at this forum and this is my first post.

A want to start this thread about real metal detectors not for hobby.

I just have started seriously with treasure hunting and I want to know about real metal detectors. If you use them or know something about these detectors let discuss and share this information.


Have a nice day.

Robert

[michael]

Hi dear Robert, just for honest help to you;
first of all if you can find,never hesitate to buy MDL 8500 that is a real miracle we paid 10000 $ for it and never sell even for 10000000000$ offer, recently we found a treasury location (ancient reign treasury) which is an heavy project. we found it by chance.
In appropriate time we go for digging. it could get the first signals from 80-90 meters and from 20-30 meters to the point overloaded( up to 163 digit).
it seems the treasury is at about 8-10 meters depth.
http://thunting.com/geotech/forums/s...ewpost&t=14215
if you have friends in USA appeal them to look for it, it worthies.
2nd; Lorenz Deepmax
3rd; Pulse StarII

[berti]

Thx Michael

Do you have any link for MDL 8500

[michael]

Hi, no man. didn't you read the link I referred???
I'm myself looking for a link, communication way, an e-mail,...... to makers, but by this moment nothing and nothing. I bring this up here from time to time only to arouse people look for that all over USA.
just a sparkle of hope to find maker, or dealer,...
I request you if you found any spoor, clue, anything please inform me.
I really love this device, incredibly powerful, reliable, accurate and stable. for big long buried
targets treats also as LRL (first convenient LRL). Can tell you that best GPRs are nothing in comparison with this MD in treasure hunting field as its’ signal intensity highly surpasses to GPRs.
Again, hey dear friends- especially AMERICAN members- do your best to find it, it really worthies.

[Max]

Hi, no man. didn't you read the link I referred???
I'm myself looking for a link, communication way, an e-mail,...... to makers, but by this moment nothing and nothing. I bring this up here from time to time only to arouse people look for that all over USA.
just a sparkle of hope to find maker, or dealer,...
I request you if you found any spoor, clue, anything please inform me.
I really love this device, incredibly powerful, reliable, accurate and stable. for big long buried
targets treats also as LRL (first convenient LRL). Can tell you that best GPRs are nothing in comparison with this MD in treasure hunting field as its’ signal intensity highly surpasses to GPRs.
Again, hey dear friends- especially AMERICAN members- do your best to find it, it really worthies.

Hi,
I never heard of it... MDL 8500 is totally unknown to me. I'm in the EU... but I know many US made stuff and this I never saw before... I took a look at pictures you posted... doesn't seem anything military , are you sure it is from mil related production and really made in the USA?

Cause if you read somewhere... "made in USA"... depends: some components you could find with that labels don't mean device was truly assembled in the USA.

Kind regards,
Max

[Berti]

If it is for military being maybe it's not found on the market.

How did you heard about it Michael?

[michael]

Hi,
I never heard of it... MDL 8500 is totally unknown to me. I'm in the EU... but I know many US made stuff and this I never saw before... I took a look at pictures you posted... doesn't seem anything military , are you sure it is from mil related production and really made in the USA?

Cause if you read somewhere... "made in USA"... depends: some components you could find with that labels don't mean device was truly assembled in the USA. Kind regards, Max

Hi, you're right, but as another side we've seen some entire US-military stuffs with only "Made in U.S.A" and a code number on it, nothing more, even without any name, but an excellent object made of excellent materials with best work on of them was a binocular night vision with indefinable quality that advanced Russian ones was hobby in comparison with.

About MDL : We know definitely the origin is America and had been sent from there. why the owner sold it?
A: cos he used to search with 1m x 1m frame whereas with 2m x 2m is the best attitude and the most stable.
as MDL has no discrimination and the owner and his partners were tired of digging for many of junk metals at great depths so set him thinking to buy a "Lorenz deepmax" only for discrimination and sell his MDL.

All the things we know is what you see here in Pics. it seems the main microchip is sealed in white part is entirely packed and inaccessible. in the arrow has written "high voltage". Datas on all ICs has been erased or abraded.
only on this white part you see "Made in U.S.A"
It's obvious isn't a homemade device it's an awesome neat work of a team work.
again I emphasize; It really worthies, it's a treasure by its own. use all of your communication potentialities, friends or anything else
to find the maker and please do a great favor, inform me. it will be so much appreciated.
oh, one thing now sparkled in my mind: as you see there is a label "Intel Inside celeron".
maybe Intel will tell the firm or guy who orders espesific microchip to Intel? or no, it never divulges?

[Max]

Hi, you're right, but as another side we've seen some entire US-military stuffs with only "Made in U.S.A" and a code number on it, nothing more, even without any name, but an excellent object made of excellent materials with best work on of them was a binocular night vision with indefinable quality that advanced Russian ones was hobby in comparison with.

About MDL : We know definitely the origin is America and had been sent from there. why the owner sold it?
A: cos he used to search with 1m x 1m frame whereas with 2m x 2m is the best attitude and the most stable.
as MDL has no discrimination and the owner and his partners were tired of digging for many of junk metals at great depths so set him thinking to buy a "Lorenz deepmax" only for discrimination and sell his MDL.

All the things we know is what you see here in Pics. it seems the main microchip is sealed in white part is entirely packed and inaccessible. in the arrow has written "high voltage". Datas on all ICs has been erased or abraded.
only on this white part you see "Made in U.S.A"
It's obvious isn't a homemade device it's an awesome neat work of a team work.
again I emphasize; It really worthies, it's a treasure by its own. use all of your communication potentialities, friends or anything else
to find the maker and please do a great favor, inform me. it will be so much appreciated.
oh, one thing now sparkled in my mind: as you see there is a label "Intel Inside celeron".
maybe Intel will tell the firm or guy who orders espesific microchip to Intel? or no, it never divulges?

Hi,
I will search for infos if available... the celeron label it's a bit suspect... celeron processors could be used for embedded systems too but it's not a fair choice about e.g. consumption and support circuitry. If it's really inside the white epoxied stuff is probably some handheld computer pcb customized to get control over the MD functions... you know could exist some reason why could be easier using an existing e.g. pda card or something than making a custom MCU based control system: looks like , if there's really the celeron stuff inside... one could have put some linux OS or WindowsCE and then programming was made by C or something less smart like some embedded java code.

Anyway... no matter much which processor or mcu is inside... but what's actually doing...

Do you know of any software interface between MD and a PC ... like USB ports... serial... and the like ?

I just see power,audio,coil ports, right ?

If there isn't any communication port... the software is really intended as embedded thing... no way to access data apart alert and displayed informations.

Kind regards,
Max

[michael]

Hi, no Max, as I know there isn't any software using or interface. the types which using software are not satisfying at all it sounds are some delusive charming hobbies. one of those is DTI Genesis that I have seen although is a somehow good PI, but in comparison with Lorenz or Pulse star is weaker. over the location where we have buried our test target at 3 meters depth, our first PI(Luminous) gave 2-3% signal intensity, DTI genesis gave no signal(silent) Lorenz gave 10 % signal intensity and MDL gave 50%.
when we saw this immediately paid money and bought it.

MDL is a simple MD but incredibly much more powerful than others and highly stable, hence can quickly walk or even run with it and scan hectares at least time. this increases the chance of success logarithmically or progressively. another thing; despite other kinds it never has drift or signal drop over a target; i.e. when you get a target with e.g. number 40 intensity you will get this all the times for all tries no drift occurs, by the time battery is OK. but in others even Lorenz you will have a drift one time with 30% other time with 25 or 20 for the same target.
When we work with it, really enjoy.
Again: Do your best to find maker.

[Qiaozhi]

Hi, you're right, but as another side we've seen some entire US-military stuffs with only "Made in U.S.A" and a code number on it, nothing more, even without any name, but an excellent object made of excellent materials with best work on of them was a binocular night vision with indefinable quality that advanced Russian ones was hobby in comparison with.

About MDL : We know definitely the origin is America and had been sent from there. why the owner sold it?
A: cos he used to search with 1m x 1m frame whereas with 2m x 2m is the best attitude and the most stable.
as MDL has no discrimination and the owner and his partners were tired of digging for many of junk metals at great depths so set him thinking to buy a "Lorenz deepmax" only for discrimination and sell his MDL.

All the things we know is what you see here in Pics. it seems the main microchip is sealed in white part is entirely packed and inaccessible. in the arrow has written "high voltage". Datas on all ICs has been erased or abraded.
only on this white part you see "Made in U.S.A"
It's obvious isn't a homemade device it's an awesome neat work of a team work.
again I emphasize; It really worthies, it's a treasure by its own. use all of your communication potentialities, friends or anything else
to find the maker and please do a great favor, inform me. it will be so much appreciated.
oh, one thing now sparkled in my mind: as you see there is a label "Intel Inside celeron".
maybe Intel will tell the firm or guy who orders espesific microchip to Intel? or no, it never divulges?

This does not look like a military device to me, and I would suspect that the "Made in U.S.A." label refers specifically to the white box internal to the device. The "Intel Inside" sticker is probably just that ... a sticker. It simply means nothing.
Since the arrow on the white box says high voltage, then maybe this module is a DC to DC converter used to boost the TX voltage, as it's almost certain that this is a P.I detector of some sort. Have you made any measurements on this detector, such as examining the TX and RX waveforms with an oscilloscope?

[WesP]

A few thoughts about the MDL8500

After reading this thread a few thoughts come to mind:

Caveat emptor


"If it sounds too good to be true, it probably isn't".


I'll take that with a grain of salt.

Just a thought......................

[michael]

This does not look like a military device to me, and I would suspect that the "Made in U.S.A." label refers specifically to the white box internal to the device. The "Intel Inside" sticker is probably just that ... a sticker. It simply means nothing.
Since the arrow on the white box says high voltage, then maybe this module is a DC to DC converter used to boost the TX voltage, as it's almost certain that this is a P.I detector of some sort. Have you made any measurements on this detector, such as examining the TX and RX waveforms with an oscilloscope?

Hi, yes what I told from first absolutely is a PI MD, but for big old buried objects behaves exactly like LRL ( I call it first conventional LRL) and I can't and never dare to do anything on it to get signal form by oscilloscope cos it's irreplaceable for us.
However the matter is it's working incredibly exact what I described, this is enough for us.
It doesn't matter with what shape thing you search whether a very complicated appearance or a small twig.

After reading this thread a few thoughts come to mind:

Caveat emptor


"If it sounds too good to be true, it probably isn't".


I'll take that with a grain of salt.

When you could present a reason for my lying, then could charge me of exaggeration.
I have no vested interest here and am not the maker or producer as cannot do it for my poor electronic knowledge, old members here like Qiaozhi or Max know this. then no reason to advertise it unless I want to find maker for order another one as a spare.
Oh, BTW; do you interest in and watching detective movies or read pertaining stories? like Sherlock Holmes.
What I have reflected up is 100% true and based on what we experienced personally not heards or stories. Don't want believe? is up to you.

[amtech2005]

Real Metal Detectors

Michael , Could you or anyone else please post some more "Clear full photos" of the MDL8500. Was Intel Celeron around in 2001 ? Your detector might have been manufactured 7 years ago !!!....Information like this, might dissappear from the internet over time , like the manufacturer who made this MDL8500!!. They may have sold a bunch and went out of business !!..We want to know about this Detector Too......It is always fun to solve a mystery..........Take care......Eugene

[Max]

Michael , Could you or anyone else please post some more "Clear full photos" of the MDL8500. Was Intel Celeron around in 2001 ? Your detector might have been manufactured 7 years ago !!!....Information like this, might dissappear from the internet over time , like the manufacturer who made this MDL8500!!. They may have sold a bunch and went out of business !!..We want to know about this Detector Too......It is always fun to solve a mystery..........Take care......Eugene

Hi,
when I saw it first time in his pictures I had impressions it isn't anything military stuff... cause I never heard of one of these MDL... and it hasn't appearance or roughness that's typical of mil stuff... e.g. full metal enclosing... green colour... special connectors... etc

Now I was thinking it seems much like an industrial kind detector, like conveyor mounted stuff but probably developed as stand alone pulse MD, maybe following some old industrial design as starting point.

I saw in past some LOMA-CINTEX industrial MDs... and panels are somehow similar with it... but problem is I don't know of anything by LOMA and the like that's MDL8500.

Anyway, probably is just cause of the strange shape of it...and command switches that reminds me industrial detectors.

For example of what I mean look here:
http://www.loma.com/lo_metal_detection_mdh.shtml

Could be that MDL8500 a Loma clone of an early MD model adapted for TH field search ???

I don't know...

Kind regards,
Max

[ivconic]

Possibly....
look this link;
http://www.enkaymachine.com/proceq4.htm

a friend came to me with so good impressions about this one. It is not what we want here, but he tested it and was pretty amazed with performances.
He claims detection of small iron box 20x10cm at 1.3 meters in soil with this device....!? Is it possible?


"Intel inside" sticker on that device is nothing but local joke, i presume. Some joker put it there...