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  • Detecting Surgical Instruments

    Paul, JC and All,

    One medical area where there may still be a need (certainly was 10 years ago, when I last had a look at the problem), is detecting hypodermic needles. There are at least two problem areas. 1) If a needle breaks off when they are giving an injection. Undetected bits of needle can travel in the body, from the site of the original injection. 2) Stray needles which get into the hospital laundry and injure people sorting the linen, with the attendant dangers on catching something nasty.

    The problem here, is that you are looking for a thin tube of high grade stainless steel, which is extremely hard to detect with any method. Maybe your very short, high frequency pulse idea would work. I certainly can't detect them my fastest PI unit at 1uS delay with a 2.5in coil.

    Other hospital applications, as JC suggested, are post operative scanning to see that no surgical instruments had been left behind. Again we are dealing with high grade stainless steel, but these are larger and are usually detectable at standard PI short delays.

    Other things that get left behind are swabs, which are obviously not detectable as they stand. I was asked once if a small metal loop was woven into the swab, whether this would make it detectable. Again, it would have to be stainless steel and very thin, but the fact that you have a continuous loop would help in radiating area.

    A portable hand instrument is most desirable here for quickness and ease of use. As you can guess, X-rays are out of the question in the majority of cases.

    Regarding the above, similar problems must be encountered in other establishments, such as prisons

    Another medical area for metal detectors, is vetinerary, both in operations on animals, and locating metal things that animals have swallowed. I used to make a standard PI detector called the Vettec, which came in a case with a selection of coils and probes. In one case it was used on a sick cow and located parts of a birdcage in one of its seven stomachs.

    Starting a new thread seemed appropriate, as these applications are quite different from treasure hunting, and we may get some interesting comments.

    Eric

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    JC1

    Hi Eric and All,

    One more application is hospital waste. The reason is a large hospital may throw away instruments amounting to $250,000 a year or more, by accident. You can also charge alot for these units as the savings for the hospital is large.

    However, they use alot of foil and foil wrapped bags containers that stuff comes in etc. that they don't care about. And they don't want to route around in the blood and guts unless there is something there of value. So discrimination is the key.

    Hey Eric, you ever try those detectors on titanium? Vlf perform most poorly.

    JC

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    • #3
      Hi JC,

      My specs have titanium frames and I can't detect those at 10uS delay, in spite of the full loops around the lenses.

      Eric.

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      • #4
        JC1

        Hi Eric,

        Yea, I have tried the titanium surgical instuments (clamps and internal body parts) they are very hard to detect, vlf or PI . I have tried both before.

        JC

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        • #5
          Could those pieces be vaccine-based microchip implants?

          http://www.whale.to/b/vaccine_imp.html
          http://educate-yourself.org/mc/impla...s06dec00.shtml
          http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/detect-chips.htm
          Zapchecker is used in locating in some cases and neodymium magnet to deactivate.

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          • #6
            JC1

            MediScan

            Now I wonder who did this?

            https://www.rangersecurity.com/custo...cat=258&page=1

            https://www.rangersecurity.com/custo...me.php?cat=258

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            • #7
              Hello All,

              How thick are these needles? Are we talking about 0.5 mm diameter? I'm thinking the RL decay rate wouldn't be that big of a probably if you use high speed PI design, but the decay signal from the needle is probably extremely low. Perhaps longer sample times would make the difference. Lots of pulse power never hurts ... and hope the hospitals RF noise level is low enough.

              Paul

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