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    When i first started metal detecting, there was only all metal mode. Discrimination was not out there at the time. So I hit targets, using my BFO MACHINE, and the excitement? Dug each and every target!!!!!!!! Man oh man did I find good targets? Yes, there was more GOOD TARGETS for me, then there was bad targets. Why was this? It was all out there, in the ground, no metal detectors had come before mine!!!

    There were a lot of electronics PLANTS in Colorado. Not that many today though. They left or closed up... Sent things to China or India or Mexico to be made. Changes came, and changes were made. So today, Colorado Springs is much larger, but the manufacturing business is not there the same anymore. Business are larger, as every Tom, Dick, and Harry opened up a smaller business. Well, not going to harp on that anymore...

    Then I went to newer metal detectors, and thought wow! Discrimination? No more digging up trash... Was that the case??? Nope!!! Still digging up trash. Detectors changed, into PHASE SHIFT COMPARISONS. I did not like those things. So I stuck to all metal mode, do not use Discrimination. At first I did, I did not want to continue digging up trash. Discrimination didnot work out for me. Might of for some of you. But myself? I had the taste of digging up older valuable GOOD TARGETS... I was younger, went way up into the mountains, into the gold mining districts. Dug up good old relic targets too. I encountered a lot of electronic plant engineers. One of them, built me an small target amplifier, it amplifies small targets, and small targets are great, if one can compare them, and they are small and deep too!!!!!

    That is the way I detect now, listen for FAINT, SMALL, DEEPER targets. if not that, I move on. Trash if above my digging you see....

    But I did a lot of TESTING, to see if DISCRIMINATION would work for me. ..It did not work for me.....
    MELBETA
    Now in the old days of metal detecting, found an heck of a lot of vintage SKELETON KEYS, they went from house to house back in the old days, opened every door when I was a kid. I found them back then, I do not find them today. Why???? I am puzzled too.......I used to find old glass small cream bottles, See the one in upper left side? Now you do not see them anymore. Plastic creamers come with the coffee. But I dig all targets back then, and up came old creamers, old small perfume bottles (upper right side). Used to find lots and lots of old padlocks. Some small (see these small ones too), and the more expensive big lock, found some of them too... Lead bottle screw on/off lids??? See them on middle right side in photo..........
    this Nostalgia photo, shows lots and lots of small interesting OLD finds. Now the skeleton keys photo, it is NOT the same file as the NOSTALGIA. You need to download the Nostalgia file, and click and open it up, there is photo after photo of finds...Even an metal case, held 3 ****** CONDOMS. No condoms in this case, empty case, was at the site of an old SALOON you see. Back then, Condoms were not RUBBER, they were LEATHER ones. Never saw one of the old ones myself... But I found the case which held three of them...........
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    In 1978, I was in CrippleCreek Mining District, no gambling casinos back then. Got permission to metal detect from Golden Cycle place, so had the whole countryside to detect. Learned to get it in writing, as Sherriffs deputies would drive up, inspect you, arrest you if you did not have written permission, but I had it in writing myself... Found these interesting things back in 1975. I call the entire file, GOODIES, it was everything small. I liked finding small, but also found larger things like gold PICKS too...Enjoy the photos of the past, I really do enjoy looking at the items and looking at the files myself........This 1978 file, has a lot of photos, that are inside the file GOODIES. Download and click to open it up.
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    Hi I'm an all metal fun... when I re-start detecting 10 years ago I was into WWII war relics.. and I usually go in place (Italy) where there was a lot of goodies... bullet, casings coins etc... one day I was in a very clean place so I decide to hunt in all-metal for max sensitivity and switch to DISC when i found targets...
    Than my metal (tesoro silver umax) bip and I decide to dig... it was a link of an mg-34 or mg-42 .. who knows and I recover a lot of them... then I look around like thsi and an entire world shows up.. i retrieve casing of a BF-109 (13mm and 20mm cannon) all those casing were of steel.

    flashback:
    when I start to detecting in the 1998 I go around with a crappy BFO made by me with schematics taken from a '60 magazine.. and I use to find lot of coins that now are impossible to find because they are of "steel" (acmonital alloy)...

    The sad thing is that I don't have in my detector a true all-metal now.. so I like to use BFO sometimes.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by giuhalftrack View Post
      Hi I'm an all metal fun... when I re-start detecting 10 years ago I was into WWII war relics.. and I usually go in place (Italy) where there was a lot of goodies... bullet, casings coins etc... one day I was in a very clean place so I decide to hunt in all-metal for max sensitivity and switch to DISC when i found targets... Than my metal (tesoro silver umax) bip and I decide to dig... it was a link of an mg-34 or mg-42 .. who knows and I recover a lot of them... then I look around like thsi and an entire world shows up.. i retrieve casing of a BF-109 (13mm and 20mm cannon) all those casing were of steel.
      flashback: when I start to detecting in the 1998 I go around with a crappy BFO made by me with schematics taken from a '60 magazine.. and I use to find lot of coins that now are impossible to find because they are of "steel" (acmonital alloy)... The sad thing is that I don't have in my detector a true all-metal now.. so I like to use BFO sometimes.
      What you said is my experience, except I use both the BFO and the older VLF/TR machines, and stright TR all metal too. Not into the newer metal detectors you see. However, i started way before 1998. I only search BELOW the trash level of the ground. That means I do dig up the trash level to get down below it. Yes, I got coins that are not here today in the upper parts of the ground. And when I hit a target, if it has Discrimination in it, I use it to double check the find before digging it up. I only dig up faint sounding targets, some is trash, but most is either relics or good valuables. During WWII, I used to sit on the horse drawn farm machinery and imagine I was in Europe in a fighter airplane. The first car I remember riding in was a 1928 Chevy coupe car. I stood up on the seat, looking out over the dashboard into the front window and saw the world like that... If the target is always faint, I dig it. If not faint, I move along to another target. I used to be a dealer selling metal detectors, but never sold Tesoro... Before I picked up a metal detector, I used to work for the U.S. Govt lecturing on geology and mineralogy and history in two U.S. National Parks Service areas...But before going to work for the U.S. Govt I used to build my own hot rod cars...I never raced on drag strips, raced on the highways you see. My younger brother, now deceased, used to build dragsters and had top speed trophies...Specializing in faint signals, I dig up a lot of interesting vintage coins and medals, vintage old jewelry, etc., etc........
      MELBETA

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      • #4
        Here is one of my pictures of what I call vintage faint signals way down in the ground........I like finding old relic tokens that are really interesting like these... It is stuff you do not see everyday, unless you go to museums you see....
        MELBETA
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Melbeta View Post

          What you said is my experience, except I use both the BFO and the older VLF/TR machines, and stright TR all metal too. Not into the newer metal detectors you see. .....

          ......I used to work for the U.S. Govt lecturing on geology and mineralogy and history in two U.S. National Parks Service areas...
          MELBETA
          Thank you for your reply, I'm very interested in your "hunting strategy" and in BFO technology (just because I like those simple circuits).
          The two things I consider unacceptable are:
          - the idea of skip a gold item
          - the idea that under a discriminated object maybe... a good object is hiding.

          I don't know if could be off-topic to talk here about all those topic so I send you a private message.

          p.s. for the mineralogy and geology part.. I'm a geologist

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          • #6
            Originally posted by giuhalftrack View Post

            Thank you for your reply, I'm very interested in your "hunting strategy" and in BFO technology (just because I like those simple circuits).
            The two things I consider unacceptable are:
            - the idea of skip a gold item
            - the idea that under a discriminated object maybe... a good object is hiding.

            I don't know if could be off-topic to talk here about all those topic so I send you a private message.

            p.s. for the mineralogy and geology part.. I'm a geologist
            Back in the years of 1960 into 1962, I worked for the U.S. Govt, and as a College Graduate, I was involved with lecturing and patroling the areas. Today, we cannot metal detect our city, guys dug holes, did not cover them up, so the city passed laws prohibting the use of metal detectors. So I have to detect outside the city limits, which is the country. I knew engineers who worked for HP in the past, together we built units which helpt me hear faint signals deeper in the ground, and I am prohibiting from releaseing and giving technical material relative to those faint signal amplifiers... But I have two of them, and I use themself. I do not skip gold coins, have 4 of them, the 5th one is gold plated. All are small gold coins.

            Since I am older today, it is not good to go out detecting today easily for me, so I detect on land I own that is from an old 1860s ranch nearby. The trash mainly is old rifle or pistol shells you see. I do not use private messages, as it is harder for me to use an older dial up telephone line you see. My wife uses cellphones, but I do not own or use any cellphones myself. I use only OLDER computer, as I write and use older software. But since you built BFO unit, build an test AUDIO AMPIFIERS and go down deeper into the ground hearing FAINT SIGNALS deeper in the ground. What I did was find and collect Audio Amplifier Circuits, built and tested them, then began to change the parts in them so more Electrical Current went into the parts, and It worked for me... So today, I plug me head phones into my audio Amplifer unit, which is plugged into the audio jack of the metal detector. I am older, hard of hearing, so I can kick up the audio amplification current, and I can hear coins faint as deep as down 14 to 15 inches in the ground. In that area, are also faint jewelry and tokens. I at first used adjustable parts, kept turning the values down lower and lower and finally found an area where I could hear very well, and can dig faint signals. I do not give out my schematic design as it might bring in competition so I keep it secret for my own use. But if you search, you can find audio amplifer circuits, make it with adjustable parts, turn the part values down and let more and more current flow into the part, when you find a faint signal out in the area, that shows up like it sounds like it is on top of the ground, use that value!!!!!!! I found OLD CIGARETTE FOIL, from old cigarette packages, guys tossed it away years ago, and in the area where that old cigarette foil is found, i found a lot of good relics and good coins and tokens. I made a photo of some of the old clumps of cigarette foil so you can know what they used in the older cigarette packages back during WWII and OLDER back into the early 1900s.........It is below! They used to line the older cigarette packages with foil, to keep the cigarettes FRESHER when you opened up the packages you see. The air dried out the cigarettes easier, and the hole let the air into the cigarette area, so they lined the entire outside of the cigarette package, and today, where I find the old foil, is old coins, old token, old jewelry, old relics, etc., etc., etc..............The old foil, is below, and it is wadded up, as it came from the cigarette packs, and is JUST LIKE I DUG IT OUT OF THE GROUND you see.........Where there is faint signals, and signals from wadded up OLD cigarette package foils, is good targets to dig up from deep in the ground....
            MELBETA
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            • #7
              Since I studied Geology and Business at the University, I used to find and dig up GOLD and SILVER ORE, so I got photos of the ore, and this is my booklet, it is secured against printing, as it is my booklet, the ore PHOTOS are enhanced for extreme clarity and clearness, for my booklet, which I do in each of my booklets. Like I said, I used to go up into the Colorado MINEING AREAS when I was younger, and they would give me permission to detect their land, and i would come back in and tell them where I found GOOD ORE area, they liked that you see, today the doggone areas are GAMBLING areas, not MINING AREAS!!! Times change even the areas!!!!!!!

              So my booklet on GOLD ORE and on SILVER ORE is right below. READ it, study it, it is packed with knowledge. Now the computer I use for the internet, I cannot open my own booklet here, I have to do it on an WRITING COMPUTER I use to actually write the booklets, I can kick out one booklet each week you see.........This booklet I wrote when I was metal detecting the Cripple Creek and Victor Gold Mining District up in the mountains of the State of Colorado you see. I used to sell gold finding metal detectors, and some BFO's are really good to find the mineralized gold and silver ore ground!!!!!!!!!!! The early booklet I wrote back then is attached below.......You can read it, but if I remember right, you cannot print it out.........But reading it gives you knowlege you see and you are in Italy, which is Europe, and you use BFO machines, so LEARN!!!!!!!!!
              MELBETA

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              • #8
                Since I lectured in 1960 in Nebraska, I wrote the U.S. Govt, and they sent me this technical booklet, which I used for source material in my Historical and Geological LECTURES in Nebraska. This govt source material, was dated 1901 if I remember correctly, and GOLD and SILVER are world wide, so what was found in NEBRASKA, can be used in ITALY you see!!! That is if I can send it with Dial Up Internet where I live.......When I contacted the U.S. Govt they sent me this booklet.............It is oriented for the town and land I was working at, but it is technical information that you can use for your MIND!!! Just remember what is in NEBRASKA is still in ITALY or other European countries nearby!!!

                Well, cannot send it, it is too large to send via the dial up into the internet.... SORRY!!!!!!!! It exceeds the limit in size that I can send via dial up access!!!!!!!! Track down geologic books for Italy and you are in business!!!!!!!!
                MELBETA

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                • #9
                  Thank you for alla precious advices !!!! and the book. I'm allways willing to learn.
                  here in Italy the metal detector hobby spread very late... from 2000.. sure there was people who go hunting before but for cost reasons old detector where very few...
                  Some of the metal detector enthusiast in the '60 were ex-army who use the SCR625 (ex US army surplus) and other design taken from magazines..

                  For the technology used in you BFO it's ok if you have to keep it for yourself.. time ago I was thinking to build a sound compressor (just as those used in the music industry) for the detector so the faint signal will be amplified and the loud.. attenuated.
                  Actually I', experimenting with digital processing BFO.. lots of fun !!!

                  For the gold/mining part I have studied lots of paper about gold in the Alps.. you know there is a lot of gold in north Italy but all in little flakes because he came from a foliate metamorfic rock.

                  For the masking and "dig under the trash part" I remeber my first gold (big ring) was found in this way: in a river beach I spot the place in which all sinking leads were accumulated and I say myself "if there is gold is there" I dig lead sinks for 3 hours and find a gold ring.. ahahah maybe luck but... en educate guess.
                  Actually I'm working in a park were there is a carpet of bottle cups that i remove first with a magnet... lot of coins.. even from 1930 there but they are still there because lot of hunters just pass discrinated object without removing them.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by giuhalftrack View Post
                    Thank you for alla precious advices !!!! and the book. I'm allways willing to learn.
                    here in Italy the metal detector hobby spread very late... from 2000.. sure there was people who go hunting before but for cost reasons old detector where very few...
                    Some of the metal detector enthusiast in the '60 were ex-army who use the SCR625 (ex US army surplus) and other design taken from magazines..

                    For the technology used in you BFO it's ok if you have to keep it for yourself.. time ago I was thinking to build a sound compressor (just as those used in the music industry) for the detector so the faint signal will be amplified and the loud.. attenuated.
                    Actually I', experimenting with digital processing BFO.. lots of fun !!!

                    For the gold/mining part I have studied lots of paper about gold in the Alps.. you know there is a lot of gold in north Italy but all in little flakes because he came from a foliate metamorfic rock.

                    For the masking and "dig under the trash part" I remeber my first gold (big ring) was found in this way: in a river beach I spot the place in which all sinking leads were accumulated and I say myself "if there is gold is there" I dig lead sinks for 3 hours and find a gold ring.. ahahah maybe luck but... en educate guess.
                    Actually I'm working in a park were there is a carpet of bottle cups that i remove first with a magnet... lot of coins.. even from 1930 there but they are still there because lot of hunters just pass discrinated object without removing them.
                    Human beings are basically lazy, but I was taught how to drive a tractor and a 1937 International farm truck at age 9 years old. Could not see over the dash board then, had to stand up driving truck. So at age 9 I was driving both that summer...

                    People want detectors that do not see trash, see good targets, and I am the same way, but I tested and realized that both good targets and bad targets come into the detector at the same frequencies! They settle at the same time period, and heavier settle faster then lighter targets. So discrimination does not really work as desired, so I was disappointed, but being realistic, I realized depth indicates older deposits rather then newer deposits, which means relics, old coins, older jewelry, etc... Targets settle based on weight, and based on metallic content. Certain metals weight more or less then other metals. Dug the older settled material, and found many acceptable targets. I know lost wax casting of wax embedded images, and know jewelry assembly, so made lots of nice jewelry. On the older vintage jewelry, found lots and lots of it, deep in the ground, so did booklet on some of what I found, and I sold a lot of it here locally as the ladies love to buy and wear jewelry. Here is an old booklet on the vintage jewelry and vintage other targets, I think you will enjoy this booklet. The local coin museum, noticed myself, the President came into my office to meet me, he is deceased now, he brought in rare LESHER COINS, left them with me for security, took a lot of my rare coins and rare tokens, to DENVER, there his nephew lived, they photographed them, put them into hard bound books, I do not have the books, as not that interested in such books, but collect rare old books and rare old maps. I am an historian you see... Here is booklet I did make on what I found and photographed...I only photographed what I thought was very interesting finds you see.......Now some may look new, or look like new, as I learned how to re-finish jewelry, also know how to refine gold and silver. I learned to make rubber molds of finds, sold the actual copies, then I made copy after copy, and sold them. I am very versatile in what I know and what I can do. So you see, I can find something, make a rubber mold, sell it, then cast a duplicate and still retain what I found, not actually, but retain a copy. My watch band, I made the upper part on each end of the expansion part, and everyone says where did you buy it??? They wanted one you see. So I told them, "I did not buy it, I made it"!!!!!!! I made it years ago, when I was younger, they look at me now, old *******, and exclaim "Fantastic"!!!!!!!!! Heck I can barely get up and walk now at my age, made it years ago.....

                    So I made a wax image, of a Bison Head for a watch band. Cast it, it looks like the gold expansion, but I mixed the metals, to match the gold expansion part. The two Bison Heads are NOT GOLD, just look like gold you see. ARe main what I call MERLINS GOLD. Merlin was an MAGICIAN purported in ancient times. So you on this watch band, they gasp, and I say MERLIN MADE IT. Some know Merlin's name, so they look and say "Ahhh, he died long long ago"1 And I said, "I said HE came back to make it me..."!!!!!!!! And they look at me, my face is serious you see. So they wonder!!!!! So you see the second photo, the two Bison Heads, I made them myself. Bought the gold plated expansion piece though. But I got a rubber mold which I made from two wax Bison Heads........Versatile? You bet MELBETA is versatile.........Now got lots of small and larger mineral stones. I could have drilled the eyes out, stuck in either Ruby eyes or Emerald eyes, as I used to buy faceted stones to stick into my castings. But I like the LOOK OF GOLD, so that watch band is all The Look of Gold!!!!!!! The watch quit running, but I pull it out and tell the grand kids MELBETA made this watch band. They look at it, look at my face, look again and say "REALLY???" And I say, I made this part, the rest I bought. And I am telling the truth. Now the second gold photo, shows the gold metal brighter, as I was a Printer's Devil back in 1954... I worked for Bradford-Robison Printing Co in Denver, and learned to run the printing machines. Started out cleaning them, and they liked my work, so they began to teach me the Printing and Publishing Business and I still know that business....... I will admit it, I took the second photo under a bright light..........And then enhanced it. Nice is it not?????????????? Looks like REAL GOLD but is FAKE GOLD!!!
                    MELBETA
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                    • #11
                      your finds are impressive, and the idea to clone the findings and resell copies amazing.. for people like you in my region Sardinia (Italy) we have a phrase that sound like this "tengu su mestieri in is manus" literally "I got the skills in the hands" and this is said to people who can make nearly everithing.

                      Back on topic I think discrimination is a great thing but it not the answer to the question that plague the tresure hunter: There is something more buried here ? or Am I retreving all the items ?
                      I think it is a personal choice but in places were we suspect to find very good items I think a real clean up of the bad objects have to be done to be sure that masking is not hiding valuables.

                      speaking of trash infested sites (as I say before) I use to remove the surface junk with a magnet.. and I never see others doing this... even pull tabs, when I saw them to the surface I kick them back in a spot I have already searched... I don't really understand why very few hunters do that !!!

                      In many of those places cleaning is impossible !!! I make a grid from tree to tree and clean the spot, the next sunday is a carpet of pull tabs again... so I focus on little areas in which I can clean and reach the deep targets in one sortie (2-3 hours)... In those places I found pre euro coins (Lire) and even coins of the "King V.Emanuele" (before Italy was a republic) no so rare finds because you find better in the flea market but I love the green patina on this copper alloy coins !!!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by giuhalftrack View Post
                        your finds are impressive, and the idea to clone the findings and resell copies amazing.. for people like you in my region Sardinia (Italy) we have a phrase that sound like this "tengu su mestieri in is manus" literally "I got the skills in the hands" and this is said to people who can make nearly everithing.

                        Back on topic I think discrimination is a great thing but it not the answer to the question that plague the tresure hunter: There is something more buried here ? or Am I retreving all the items ?
                        I think it is a personal choice but in places were we suspect to find very good items I think a real clean up of the bad objects have to be done to be sure that masking is not hiding valuables.

                        speaking of trash infested sites (as I say before) I use to remove the surface junk with a magnet.. and I never see others doing this... even pull tabs, when I saw them to the surface I kick them back in a spot I have already searched... I don't really understand why very few hunters do that !!!

                        In many of those places cleaning is impossible !!! I make a grid from tree to tree and clean the spot, the next sunday is a carpet of pull tabs again... so I focus on little areas in which I can clean and reach the deep targets in one sortie (2-3 hours)... In those places I found pre euro coins (Lire) and even coins of the "King V.Emanuele" (before Italy was a republic) no so rare finds because you find better in the flea market but I love the green patina on this copper alloy coins !!!
                        the reason they do not do what you do is IT IS MORE WORK! I used to clean out the spots when I first started metal detecting. Then Discrimination circuits came into existence, and we alll tried them, but saw that discrimination brings in both good and trash targets. The reasons??? they came in the same frequency locations you see. I decided to develope an technique. I would only dig up FAINT SIGNALS and that worked for me. I used an AUDIO AMPLIFIER to find the faint and loud signals, then switched into BYPASS MODE and if it was still faint, I DUG IT UP. If it was loud, it was a surface area target. So you see I was DISCRIMINATING BY SOUND!!! Faint sounds are usually deeper targets, which means OLD TARGETS.......But I dug up OLDER TRASH, along with OLDER GOOD TARGETS... Now there is more OLDER TRASH then there is OLDER GOOD TARGETS, but it worked for me as I like to collect OLDER RELICS as well as OLDER COINS and OLDER JEWELRY... I took the trash home too, and into my HOME TRASH BARRELS it went!! The older RELICS and older COINS and TOKENS sold lots of new metal detectors for me!!!!!!! Old RELICS are very interesting to find for me! Here are some from the Cripple Creek Mining District back in the good old days! And they interested buyers who wanted to find the same kinds of targets. I had them on display in a front DISPLAY CASE in my store... Now the first item below, was an old time RABBIT HUNT, the metal was for the winner of the HUNT. Next was an Elks ClUB WATCH FOB thing, then and early metal drivers license PIN, then a hotel key fob, then an ladies brooch front of the case decoration, then an paint store token! One can call it a METAL BUSINESS CARD item! Very interesting items to have on display in the store show case!!!!!!!!!! I also put the nice and junk JEWELRY on display. I wrote booklets, had my advertising in them, gave them out free to interested buyers of the machines. They took them home, read the stories, came back and bought metal detector to go up into the mountains detecting too!!!!!!! My GOLD PLACER MAP Booklet, had an historic map inside it, with red colors showing the gold placer AREAS on the historic map pages. It sold for me lots of Garrett gold pans, and lots of gold finding metal detectors. Gave it out free, it had stories on each page of the booklet about the state gold placer areas...People came in just to get a copy from me and meet me! I wrote it, bound it with a binding machine, and gave it out free to interested people... You see, I not only sold them a detector, I gave them written information to historic places to go and see with their metal detector............ Click image for larger version

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                        And I found poor JEWELRY, and I found COLLECTABLE JEWELRY as well, here is a .pdf file on what I called INTERESTING JEWELRY
                        back in the early metal detecting days.....
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                        • #13
                          We have in downtown Colorado Springs, an COIN MUSEUM, they have some of my RARE BOOKLETS in their LIBRARY!!!!!!!!! The PRESIDENT got to know me!!! He would bring to me, a RARE COIN, like the LESHER COIN, to hold for security, then he took some of my RARE TOKENS to Denver, to his nephew, who photographed them, stuck them into hig RARE Colorado Token Book, told me I could made a rubber mold of the Lesher coin, so I did do that while my tokens were in Denver. I made wax copies, kicked out my own copies of the Lesher RARE COIN, it was from Cripple Creek Mining Days, and I had it on display in my metal detector shop. Yes you are RIGHT, I knew how to do things, and I did them to sell metal detectors....The Lesher coins, were worth $12,000 to $20,000 in ORIGINAL CONDITION, and I had my own copies in my metal detector store!!!!!!!!!!! My store was not only a store, it was like a museum too...........And below my wax copies is a photo from the Coin Museum downtown of their own LESHER COINS on display! And I had my own copies, I could tell them about Lesher, who lived in Cripple Creek, put the copy of his coin in their hands, let them handle it in my store!!! Talk about sales displays..........I made belt buckles, consisting of a copy of a rare coin, surrounded by leaves, all of sterling silver, to go on a neat embossed leather belt a long long time ago you see.........
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                          • #14
                            And here is a copy, of my RARE TOKENS I found, in the Cripple Creek Mining District, as a person who learned to write booklets, make copies by printing and then either selling them or giving out copies FOR FREE, I sold metal detectors like crazy, when I had my store in Colorado Springs. But one day, along came the real estate person for OAK FARM MILK Company, next door to my store, they wanted to expand, and wanted my store, offered me a huge profit on the store, I sold it, bought a warehouse nearby, and relocated my shop and store in the warehouse... A big profit in cash offer, makes one think and sell and move! And I did that very thing!

                            But I said I owned and wrote a TOKEN BOOKLET and here it is, secured of course, to read and look at. I am not a talker, I am a DOER!!!!!! What I said I DID, I really did do.........And I really found old RARE TOKENS. Still own the tokens though, never sold any of them. STILL GOT THEM!!! I called them TRADE TOKENS, and several of them in this booklet, are ONE OF A KIND, according to the writer of Colorado TOKENS book, mine is the only one known to exist and RARE and VALUABLE you see, and I got more then one of those RARE TOKENS in this booklet..............And the last few pages, are tokens which I found, and they are in the photo, BUT were after my booket was written and published you see..........They are in the scanned copies, but are not actually IN the booklet I wrote and published years ago.....I I remember right, there are three of them in that booklet, that are the only copies HE KNEW existed. And several more, are 2 copies or 3 copies known to exist and I got one of them myself!!!!!!!! So you see, that Audio AMPLIFIER unit really works for me!!!!!!!
                            MELBETA
                            Trade Tokens 5.0.pdf
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                            • #15
                              I got some very rare OLD MEXICO coins, found in this area, ONE IS VERY RARE COIN..........
                              MELBETA
                              Old Mexico Silver coins_s_vs5.0_001.pdf

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