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    Click image for larger version  Name:	1976_V_Sup_006a.jpg Views:	0 Size:	57.1 KB ID:	432495 Now I got the photo of this very very FIRST VLF detector. I will say it was created by George Payne, back in 1976, while George Payne was employed by Whites Electronics as an Engineer. So MELBETA,
    lets see it!!!!!!!! Now it is not a large photo, but I did enhance it, to make it very clear so it can be enhanced......... It was created for the LUMBER INDUSTRY, to be used in the forests of the NW Unites
    States of AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!! So up into the forests of Washington and Oregon it went when it was released. Where is George Payne today????????? He, and his SON, are both working up in those forest areas after George left Whites Electronics, and Compass Electronics and TEK LTD......... What is George doing there????? I will take a wild guess and say designing new machines for the lumber industry up in those forest areas!!!! Now I could be wrong too, as I have been wrong before. But first, I am going to stick my enhanced LUMBER VLF machine, right below my name!!!!!!!!!
    MELBETA

    And there we have it today!!!!!! Since I enhanced it, I could take a copyright on my artwork of enhancing the copy of Whites Industrial LOGMASTER model V PH-M. Whites Electronics was purchased by Garrett Electronics after this model was released, not sure on the date, but as far as I know myself Garrett Electronics owns the older Whites Electronics company........Anyone know anymore details??? If so, stick it into this line of posts!!!!!! Now back in time, I bought one of the Whites Electronics new 1976 metal detectors, not the one made for the lumber industry, but one made for sale to the general public you see. Mine came to me, with the actual model really enhanced from the normal release....So do you have some photos of your own VLF Melbeta?????????
    MELBETA
    So here I go, answering my own question!!!!!!!!!!!! I will do it first by sticking a photo of my own VLF, which also has another feature......It has TR Discrimination in it, and it also has the
    Whites Electronics latest coil back then!!!!!!! Here is my .PDF file, secured by myself because I own that metal detector model....... First the CLOSEUP photo of the cased unit... And
    since I also have it UPDATED by Whites Electronics back in 1976, it is hotter then a fire cracker back then...... and the second photo, is of the UPDATED COIL as well....


    Now the coil, was supposed to end up last, but it went in first. So I will delete the smaller copy, and stick in a larger photo (of the cased unit) before the coil.... And I will stick in the horizontal photo too... Right HERE BELOW this wording........!!!! you can see, even though I TESTED IT, it is still LIKE BRAND NEW unit!!!!!!!!!
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    And I got a enhanced close up of the wording along the side of my 1976 Whites Electronics COINMASTER V/TR Discrimation model. I am going to stick it below the COIL......Or at least try to!!!!!!
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    And I ended up lucking out on this photo as well.....I am going to quit now as long as I am head of the luck in posting the photos........ Now I did a bit of editing the lines of type, and I am
    going to stick it as a final set of materila, and let it lay as it lays........
    MELBETA



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    GRRRRRRRRRRRR! I forgot to stick in the Lumber Photo of the very very FIRST VLF!!!!!!!!
    Here it is above my name.....
    MELBETA

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    • #3
      Now George Calvin Paine, not only invented the VLF (Very Low Frequency) metal detector, he began to post the stories regarding it. At first, HE compared Fixed GROUND BALANCE versus Adjustable GROUND BALANCE.
      Where is it MELBETA????? Be patient, I got it stored within my GEORGE PAINE file folder. Everything he said and posted, is in that folder......... So here first is that comparison story by George Payne!
      MELBETA
      But first, here is the Operating Manual for George Payne's "LOG MASTER metal detector".
      Wow Melbeta you even got that??? I got everything!!!!!
      LogMaster 5-PHM_Manual_S_NP_001.Pdf

      Now next, is the comparison Story I said I had......Right below here! Now I like to save them in .PDF file format, and SECURE Them as well. Why? So no one changes them!!!!!! HIS words must be and remain HIS words! You will notice, George Payne called it right, Dynamic GB and Disc_vs5.0_S_NP_001.Pdf
      Now see it is HERE, and George Payne called it DYNAMIC GB versus the Discrimination. I added a few full words.

      Now I mentioned the George PAYNE special metal detector, which HE named the Bounty Hunter Big Bud Pro SE PLUS. I said I bought both of them, and I am not lying. Here is the patent material on it......... One has to know what he called it to find it......Now FIRST the PNI patent.....It is right here: US4128803_PNI,Inc.pdf Then he made a second patent, and it is right here: US4128803_PNI,Inc.pdf Now somewhere I even have the factory schematic...........But first, they did a written FIELD TEST of the BIG BUD PRO SE PLUS machine. I would like to have posted it, but it is copyrighted by the magazine. So I will mention it, and that way, you can track it down and read it.....That way I do not violate the copyright and get my butt in a sling!!!

      Greg Moscini tested it, and wrote these words.......Bounty Hunter Big Bud Pro Metal Detector My two machines, are called the Big Bud PRO SE PLUS......

      From Lost Treasure Field Test By Greg Moscini
      From page 50 of the September 1988 issue of Lost Treasure magazine.
      Copyright ©1988, 1999 Lost Treasure, Inc.


      My very first encounter with the Big Bud PRO metal detector was back at the 20th Annual National Prospectors & Treasure Hunters Convention on October 3 and 4, 1987 at Willow Springs, California. I was walking by the Tek-Limited Booth and spotted Tom Collins (Collins Treasure Products) and Rod Hamilton (TekLimited Marketing Manager) demonstrating the new Teknetics S/T metal detector.

      After some small talk, Rod said, ''Greg, have you had the opportunity to Sec the new Bud PRO metal detector yet? Wait till you see the improvement over the Bud NI T!'' Tom then took a Big Bud N/T metal detector and set the sensitivity at about the 2/3 level. Running it over the grcund, the N/T started to false considerably, one of the reasons I didn't care too much for that particular model.

      Tom then took a final prototype Big Bud PRO off the table and, turning the sensitivity to maximum, began sweeping over the same identical area of ground and not one false. I played a bit with it and loved the new target tone identification over the various targets. The overall smoothness of the Bud PRO metal detector was truly impressive.

      FIRST IMPRESSIONS

      Upon receiving my Bud PRO metal detector for field test purposes, I carefully unpacked it. The actual control box is packed in a second box to ensure that there is no damage during the shipping process. Putting the unit together was very easy taking only a few minutes.

      The Bud PRO metal detector like other Bounty Hunter metal detectors does not come with any batteries (9-volt). Off I went and I settled on the new Kodak Lithium ninevolt batteries which Kodak says will last twice as long over the more conventional alkaline batteries. Teknetics/ Bounty Hunter does not recommend regular budget nine-volt batteries.

      The Bud PRO metal detector in its pole-mount configuration is quite comfortable. The new blocked visual target ID meter is quite visible and easy to read. The eightinch standard search head is average in size and weight (actually a bit heavier and nowhere nearas thin as the optional 10-inch search head). Converting Bud PRO metal detector over to its hip-mount configuration lightens up the load on yourarm but means that you're going to have to glance to your side to read the visual target ID meter.

      I was able to run the Bud PRO metal detector at maximum sensitivity in my front yard without any 60-cycle interference. The Bud PRO metal detector was responsive and repeatable on my eight-inch quarter with very good visual target identification. At the 10-inch mark, the Bud PRO lost its repeatability and the response was only occasional with good visual target identification. The Bud PRO metal detector was likewise responsive on a six-inch nickel.

      Response on my buried white gold ring was excellent with a low pitch response. Response on my buried yellow gold ring was likewise excellent with the target ID tone varying slightly between LOW and MEDIUM pitch (Note: Yellow Gold Ring is electrically above the Nickel and below the Lift Tab in conductivity.)

      The trash recovery response (fourinch dime next to two-inch nail) was also very good. The Big Bud PRO metal detector knocked out the common bottle cap with ease, probably the best of the visual target ID units l have tested to date. l also noted that when the Big Bud PRO's search head passes over an undesirable junk target that the visual target ID meter doesn't move. For instance, pass a nickel across the search head and the Bud PRO metal detector responds with a LOW pitched, LOUD target alert tone. The visual target ID meter locks on the nickel. Now pass a bottle cap or iron nail across the search head and the visual target ID meter doesn't even respond to the junk target. This will mean a lot less confusion out in the field.

      The Bud PRO metal detector, like the earlier Big Bud metal detector series, will ID the target in the allmetal mode. This gives hunters an added edge in terms of deep-fringe targets and limited prospecting for midsize grain nuggets.

      FIELD TEST

      December brings us holiday cheers as well as the shortest day in the year. After putting the Bud PRO metal detector through its paces at my residence, I drove off to a nearby park since the sun was going quickly down.

      I decided to use the Bud PRO metal detector in its standard pole-mount configuration where I could watch the meter better. I walked about midway into the grassy area and ground balanced the Bud PRO metal detector quite easily. I switched the primary operation control to Discrimination and began sweeping in a slow, relaxing sweep ~

      The first target encountered was a low-pitched response on the low side of nickel. I switched to the blanker mode (which was set to reject anything shallower than two inches) and again swept over the target. The Bud PRO metal detector again responded audibly.

      Taking my Hole Hog, I plugged down approximately six inches in just seconds. I removed the plug and waved it over the top portion of the search head and the Bud PRO produced that tell-tale low-pitched response indicating that the target was in the plug. I broke the plug in half to reveal a gold-plated stickpin of a bear. This was the first time for me that the very first desirable target recovered with a particular model of metal detector was a piece of jewelry.

      The Bud PRO metal detector was exciting me with eager anticipation. My find went into my pouch and within 30 seconds I received a target response that gave me a low tone and read high nickel on the meter. It appeared to be about the same depth as the pin so I plugged out another six-inch section. I broke off a section of the plug to reveal a small sterling silver cross which was down around four inches.

      The recovery of jewelry didn't stop as the third consecutive target delivered a mid-pitched tone and sounded different from a pull/lift tab in the all-metal mode. It was a shallow target, so I took my coin probe and between the grass roots, low and behold, I recovered a gold-plated costume earring.

      I felt that my luck in finding these first three targets could be attributed to the Bud PRO's general performance. I have seen one too many rings ignored by a competitor's detector while out searching with a buddy, and it was becoming apparent to me that the Bud PRO metal detector wouldn't be the type of detector that would let a ring or other valuable escape its zone of detection.

      After almost two hours of hunting, I stared to detect toward my vehicle. I switched my primary mode to all metal and found the Bud PRO to be very smooth in its operation. I heard what sounded like bits and pieces of trash and the meter identified them mostly in the FOIL region. I then passed over what sounded like a deep desirable signal as the VTI meter jumped up to the penny/ quarter region.

      I plugged down six inches and nothing was in the plug. I then removed my coin popper which sports a 12-inch curbed shaft and inserted itat the base of the plug. I levered up on the tool which popped a clump of the bottom free. In this clump, I found a clad dime down about seven inches plus in depth. I did dig up five bottle caps due, in part, to my inexperience with the Bud PRO metal detector.

      TIP: Like many other ultra-slow sweep capable metal detectors, a bottle cap down several inches will fool the detector's circuitry. On the Bud PRO metal detector, the bottle cap will jump up to thepenny/ dime region. All one has to do once the target's approximate center position is located, is to sweep across it at a faster speed. The bottle cap will audibly be rejected while a desirable target will still be accepted. Bottle caps will, by nature, be stronger and wider - nearly twice that of a penny, dime or quarter.

      My second timeout brought me and one of my regular coinshooting buddies, Greg Baldwin, out to the beach. Unfortunately, the tide was high and there was nottoo much of the beach to search save the flat dry part which was riddled with trash. I switched the Bud PRO metal detector to the Auto Notch after my limited detecting just below the tide line.

      The Bud PRO's search head was sweeping over numerous visible tabs and junk and not making a peep. I ended up with nearly 25 desirable targets (twice that of Baldwin's total). The deepest target recovered was a lift tab in the wet sand at approximately eight inches.

      Right after receiving my first stock of Big Bud PROs, Ralph Hadley, a former dealer and a true professional/expert in coinshooting, came to me very interested in the Big Bud PRO metal detector. For the last five to six years, Ralph's number one detector was the Teknetics 8500B. As much as he loved this particular metal detector, he knowledged that hewas growing weary of the fast-sweep speed required to get the deeper signals.

      Believe me, Ralph has always been a hard person to convince when iteame to a new model of metal detector on the market, however, when I gave Ralph a demonstration of the Big Bud PRO metal detector and its capabilities in my front yard, Ralph decided it was time trade in his 8500B. After four weeks of detecting with the Big Bud PRO metal detector, Ralph gave me the following account: in 60 hours of actual detecting time, most of it in parks, he found over 56 silver coins, most of which were dimes that gave a good repeatable response at the seven-inch level with very good target ID. Those dimes and targets on the fringe of detection would give repeatable but different tones, usually a low tone in one direction and a high tone in the other.

      ''The big advantage of the Big Bud PRO metal detector over my old 8500B is in the slow speed capability which enables me to locate deep coins under and about trash that were obviously hidden (masked) from my faster sweep 8500B,'' Ralph explained. I also like the way it pinpoints - just a light press of the toggle to the right, and the target is reduced down to a small pinpoint response as opposed to the 8500B which took several, attempts and then you had to hold, the button in which could be a little awkward at times.

      With the Big Bud PRO metal detector, Ralph found a far greater ratio of Barber dimes. For instance, he found two more Barber dimes so the frequency of silver dimes found in a given period is way up over what he found with the 8500B while working favorite hunting spots.

      Ralph went on to applaud the battery life. On the first and second sets of batteries, he averaged about 28 hours each.

      The only complaint Ralph has with the Big Bud metal detector. PRO is the length of the lower rod which is too short for his stature. Ralph stands about 6' 4'' and I have a tall man, lower rod waiting for him next time he pays me a visit.

      I found the Big Bud PRO metal detector to be a definite improvement over its predecessor, the Big Bud N/T metal detector in terms of stability, target accuracy and depth. The Big Bud PRO metal detector exhibited excellent rejection characteristics over trashy areas and rejected iron targets better than most slow motion detectors in its class. The Big Bud PRO metal detector loves to be swept slow and, like Ralph Hadley, you hobbyists that have owned any of the Teknetic's metal detectors previous to the new Condor and Eagle PRO series will enjoy this particular model as achange of pace and alternative metal detector.

      At the conclusion of my test, the Kodak lithium batteries were still reading strong at nine. Bounty Hunter does make available an optional battery pack that will make the Bud Pro metal detector look like the S/T in the back. This would extend the battery life but l feel the convenience of the twin-nine and long battery life reduces the need for that option.

      Well, I personally found the eightinch coil to be a bit on the heavy side compared to the competition. The optional 10-inch coil actually is a bit lighter and because of the added increase in sensitivity, this coil has been a good seller in spite of its $119 price tag.

      Although the Bud PRO lacks a coin depth meter, one can set the blanker for instance at three inches. Once the target is located, depress the blanker toggle to the right and if the target goes silent, then you know it's three inches to surface. If it still responds, it's over three inches and you better reach for your favorite target removal tool.

      Greg Moscini is the owner of Trans Bay Metal Detectors, amulti-line metal detector dealer located at 321 Sea Horse Court, Foster City, CA94404, (415) 574-2012. Feel free to ask Greg about any questions concerning the Bud PRO or any of the other fine models in Bounty Hunter/Teknetics line.

      There you guys go, MELBETA just posted the synopsis about the Big Bud Pro SE Plus metal detector...Rare? I am going to say you will play hell trying to find one!!!!!!!!!!!!





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      • #4
        Now George Payne, loved what he created... He even wrote a SECRETS PUBLICATION, and in it, he used 10 pages, and reveals the SECRETS on his designs. Do you have it too MELBETA???
        Would I have mentioned it otherwise??????? HERE it is for your guys to read........
        MELBETA
        GEORGE Payne Secrets_S_NP_001.Pdf

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        • #5
          Now that I mentioned that I possess two copies of a rare Bounty Hunter Big Bud PRO SE PLUS model, I am going to stick in this forum some of the photos I took of the one model of the BB Pro SE PLUS in the past. When I go out metal detecting, which is not very often today due to my age, I ONLY use the Big Bud Pro SE PLUS model. It works really really good! Here is the larger photo of the front of the metal detector.....
          MELBETA
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          And I took an larger photo closeup of the SE PLUS Meter, and I will stick it here below...See the words SPECIAL EDITION on this meter????????
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          And I used to post material regarding the Big Bud Pro SE PLUS, on the earlier Compass Forum, and I did a PDF file some time in the past, do not have any PDF software on this internet computer,
          so I do not know what was said about the SE PLUS machine, but here it is anyway BELOW... Now keep in mind, Bounty Hunter made VERY VERY FEW of these SE Plus UNITS!!!!!!! I bought
          what I think was the LAST TWO of them years ago....I only used one of them, the second one is stored in my basement area.......
          MELBETA
          http___compass-metal-detector-forum.548136.n2.nabble.com_Big.pdf
          It is a fairly POOR copy, but it a large sheet size, so I scanned it and stuck it here for you guys to study!!!!!!!! It was faint, so I darkened it a bit!!! It is right above these words guys..........
          I got a copy when I bought my TWO SE PLUS units..........Now it is for the Big Bud Pro model, not sure if it covers my SE PLUS model as well. But here it is below!!!!!!!!!!!!
          If anyone creates a BETTER CLEARER copy, I would appreciate a copy sent to [email protected] guys........

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          • #6
            Melbeta says the 1974 and the 1975 Supreme V detector, came out with NO DISC inside it. I got the schematic though, and am going to stick it here if I can get it stuck IN!!!
            Now I own no1974 nor any 1975 Supreme said Melbeta...... But he owns the 1976 UPDATED model...
            MELBETA
            1974_CM-V_CLEAR Schematic_S_NP_001.Pdfo.pdf
            Okay, completements from MELBETA, above is the FIRST 1974 Whites CoinMaster V Supreme model. It has no Discrimination inside it. They took it out testing here and there,
            all over the USA, even out from Padre Island Beach into the ocean it went. The guy who tested it died later on. It was so GOOD, it found the RUST in that ocean beach area.....
            It was 1.782 kHz frequency and was toooooo sensitive. So in 1976, it came out as a 6.592 kHz frequency model detector........... Now I know a lot about that early testing, but not
            going to post it, as it is history now!!!!!! Now that schematic above, you can read it, but cannot print it out, as it belongs to me, and I did the art work to make it very clear.....
            MELBETA

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            • #7
              Now here is MELBETA again, with the 1975 Whites CoinMaster V Supreme information. It was released for sale, had 1.782 kHz frequency, taken to Padre Island by an
              writer, who is since deceased. He said it was so sensitive it found the rust in the water!!!!!!! Now that is sensitive you see.............Unless you want to own RUST???
              Now I says to Melbeta, "MELBETA, do not judge them! Some just might want to own RUST!!!" So Melbeta said to Melbeta, "damn it!!! You might be right!!!!!!!" so right
              below is the Rust finding 1975 Whites CoinMaster V Supreme material.....Secured of course, as I did it for you guys......... Now it is the EVALUATION from 1975... You
              will get it piece by piece, bite by bite! That way you guys will learn it crunch by crunch...
              MELBETA
              CM_V_Supreme_Evaluation_s_V5.0.pdf
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Melbeta View Post
                Now that schematic above, you can read it, but cannot print it out, as it belongs to me, and I did the art work to make it very clear.....
                I don't understand why you would post a schematic but not allow printing.

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                • #9
                  Click image for larger version

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ID:	433145 1975 CoinMasterV no Disc_S_NP_001.Pdf Now MELBETA said to Melbeta, some just might want to build it, and own some of that RUST out in the water..........So MELBETA, took the PCB from the EVALUATION TIME LINE,
                  enhanced the PCB, with its parts info, stuck it in here below, the 1.782 kHz freq unit, the hottest of that Supreme *******s!!!!!!!!!!! I put it here below, as it even found the SMELL
                  of RUST.... You know smell exists, the nose KNOWS.............So MELBETA gives you guys the first PCB pattern. So those who want the lower frequency unit, can build it and
                  find the smell of GOLD out in the water........
                  MELBETA
                  First Rocky LaGaye's death notice, and next the smell PCB unit..........


                  and next, the smell of GOLD PCB, which found the smell which rocky found it out in the Gulf Water of Texas into that ice cold water, off of
                  PADRE ISLAND, Texas, before Rocky died in 1982....Rocky LaGaye, said you better be preprared for a hell of a lot of digging! So no one
                  will doubt me, I got what Rocky said as well. Here it is below............What Rocky said before he died......
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                  Now with this material, one can build it, and find the most gold by smell using the 1975 Coin Master Supreme V metal detector, which was so
                  sensitive, that Ken White changed the frequency on it. It was sold only in 1975 your see, and this materials was from that time period!!! It was
                  SO SENSITIVE they had to HOLD it UP and AWAY from the target!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now Melbeta, does not have the PDF software, to open it up, to
                  see if it has the PCB pattern or the entire 1975 schematic, but he knows it is 1.782 kHz in frequency at least!!!!!!!!
                  MELBETA
                  Whoops! Just found the PCB pattern......... Here it is too!!!!!!!!
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                  • #10
                    Very simple, the file was made with older PDF software years ago....It was secured in the past, not secured right today.......And I do not remember what I used to secure it. I suffer from Short Term Memory Loss
                    CARL.....cannot remember the password. So whoever wants to print it will have to do it themselves. Thats why! I take it, as it is, from the flash drive from the past Carl. I just found the PCB pattern, and they can
                    make it from the photo provided to myself by Ted years ago.......
                    MELBETA
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Melbeta View Post
                      Very simple, the file was made with older PDF software years ago....It was secured in the past, not secured right today.......And I do not remember what I used to secure it.
                      OK, that's fine. It's a simple matter to remove the restrictions, DocDocGoose can do it in seconds.

                      Also, here's the same (but cleaner) CM-V schematic from White's:

                      Coinmaster5GEB.pdf

                      Here's the CM-V with the disc circuit added:

                      Coin5dGEBSch.pdf

                      Here's an earlier version (1974) but the sampling circuit is shown as a module:

                      CoinmasterV.pdf

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Carl-NC View Post

                        OK, that's fine. It's a simple matter to remove the restrictions, DocDocGoose can do it in seconds.

                        Also, here's the same (but cleaner) CM-V schematic from White's:

                        [ATTACH]n433149[/ATTACH]

                        Here's the CM-V with the disc circuit added:

                        [ATTACH]n433150[/ATTACH]

                        Here's an earlier version (1974) but the sampling circuit is shown as a module:

                        [ATTACH]n433151[/ATTACH]
                        I am not familiar with DocDocGoose software, and I started a file folder, called Carls Files, as I have no idea in hell if I had those files in this email. I do not think I do, but I am not positive...
                        Thanks Carl. I apologize for having Short Term Memory Probems, as it is kind of driving my wife a bit crazy as I do thingsI do not remember doing before. Sorry!!!!

                        In the year 2023, I met the LORD GOD, He came around 11:20 in the night, I felt HIM, scared the crap out of me, He said "I am love pure love". Then HE noticed me shaking like a tree leaf
                        in a tornado, so HE said "I did not come to harm you". Then HE said, "I love you, I really really love you". The two REALLIES gave me the clue to who was in my bedroom. JESUS liked to
                        say in the past, double words, for emphasis........The the 4th thing HE said was "I have left"....... All four as fast as I could snap my finers 4 times really fast!!!!!!! BUSY GOD I think!!! I am
                        going to tell you what I felt in being scared. I felt HIS POWER, HIS OMNIIPITENCE, HIS GLORY, etc... I cannot explain it to you what I felt... But I will say I almost soiled myself!!!!! That is how
                        scared I was when HE came into my bedroom. Could not see HIM, but FELT HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Again, thanks for sending me those other files, I put them into CARL FILES folder as I do not
                        know if I had them before or not.......but I know I have them today!!!!!!! So thanks again CARL.........

                        Any time my posting enrages you Carl just let me know and I will quit posting in that forum CARL..........
                        MELBETA

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                        • #13
                          Now my Bounty Hunter Big Bud Pro SE unit, is the usual detector I take out to my land, as the Town of Colo Sprgs, passed a law, seizing any detector used on city land in the TOWN, and so, in observance to their LAW, which they passed, as I live NEXT to an old 1860s RANCH, and on part of the land they deeded to the man who built my 8,000 SF house, I search on my own land. I find a lot on my own land, enough to keep me busy detecting my own property...I removed the in ground large swimming pool, no more crap from the trees in that pool, and I just detect on my own land...

                          Now when I was a Ranger in NEBR, I could not detect on the Park's land, but outside their park, I could get permission to detect, and I used to find old relics there. So I took photos, enhanced them for extreme clarity, and on another old computer, which I can create PDF files on it, I make smaller files you see...But I forgot the passwords, but I still stick them in so Carl's goose software he can bypass the passwords!

                          Now I was overcome by heavy snow, but it started melting yesterday, and for the next 6 days will melt all around my property. I am resting from all of the snow shoveling you see.......

                          Now years ago, I wrote an TREASURES story, about Lost Buried Treasure in the State of Colorado, which is where I live today. It is secured, cannot print a copy, but can read it, and learn about lost buried
                          treasure in my state of Colorado. I wrote hunderds of booklets in the past, used to give three copies free with the sale of each metal detector, and knew the police of many towns in this state, as i used to go to the towns, and even on federal land, knew them, and got permission to metal detect. So I took some photos for some of the booklets, and below is the story in PDF for Colorado!

                          In my old folder, on the state of NEBR, I was writing a booklet, never quite finished it, but got it in a PDF file yet, was a research copy of the old ghost towns in NEBR. Is below! I was a historian, and used to lecture on the old towns in Nebr, at the Scottsbluff National Monument, at night and I drew a very very large crowd........I met farmers, got their permission to metal detect the old roads and house areas on their land...This was a working copy for my history for the state of Nebraska back then....... I was really well known back then in Nebr.... I traveled all over the western part of the state years ago...I
                          metal detected old parks, and old farm house sites too.......They bought neighbors land, let the house sit, then tore it down, and I went there and detected. I found lots of historic things including coins and
                          old jewelry and old farm things...
                          MELBETA
                          NEBR_GHOST TOWNS_001.Pdf.Pdf
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                          • #14
                            I also used to sell and use BFO machines, and did an BFO PDF booklet on many of those old units... But I enhanced it years ago, and it is very readable to read! It covers lost treasure on the ENTIRE USA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Well, not sure if it covered the entire USA, but if I recalll it covered a lot of the STATES....... I have it in normal copy, not the PDF copy, so copied it, and added it below...... Now this
                            copy was in my own DOC copy, so just copied it and stuck it below. Did a lot of enhancing of photos, but none were stuck inside this copy so far, so no enhanced photos were in this booklet copy...
                            I wrote under many names, and in this copy I was MAVERICK! I sold a lot of old metal detectors years and years ago, and knew a lot of the engineers of the companies...I even knew Charles Garrett, Ken White SR, Ron Mack of Compass, etc., etc..........
                            MELBETA


                            Copyright Albany Publishing
                            Los Angeles, CA
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                            First Edition
                            Author "Maverick" (Melbeta)

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                            In the 1800s, after the discovery of electricity, mankind began to create various kinds of metal locaters to find buried treasure. But these were all primitive designs. In 1874, Gustave Trouve patented an unique metal detector, designed to find bullets within a human body. In 1881, Alexander Graham Bell, in July attempted to find a bullet inside President James Garfield. The metal detector did find metal, but the metal mattress coil springs defeated the attempt to locate the bullet, and Garfield expired. Thus it was not until Gerhard Fischer, in 1925, made the first really useable portable metal detector and then patented it in 1931. The first Fisher detector was sold in 1931. In the intervening years, Fischer had become a U.S. Citizen, and changed his name to Fisher. He started the company Fisher Laboratory thereafter. While I do not have a photo of a 1925 or 1931 detector, I do have a photo of a 1936 Fisher M-Scope metal detector. Yes, it was a 2-box detector, with a wooden case. It ran using electronic radio tubes. Transistors had not been invented as of then.

                            After WWII ended, the United States of America, after a need to find Uranium, put forth a reward for any finder who found Uranium. This brought about a race to find a usable Uranium deposit, and a special detector, called a Geiger Counter was invented.

                            Kenneth White, the owner of Whites Electrons joined the Geiger Counter race, and in 1954, entered his own version of a Geiger Counter, and called it an OreMaster. In 1950s, White's Electronics founder Ken White Sr. released his Oremaster Gieger Counter, a revolutionary device that didn't require headphones as it detected uranium. The uranium market declined, but other metals were in high demand. Therefore as the Geiger Counter market was diminishing, Ken White began to target the mining industry craze. This photo is from 1950s, and is printed here courtesy of Kenneth White Sr. I have enlarged and enhanced a second photo, thus giving a better look at some of Ken Whites 1950s metal detectors that were sold back then. Now since transistors were still not invented, these also ran using vacuum tubes.
                            Both photos are pictured on the next page. As you can see, this is a electronics room, of Ken Whites first business building. Ken is very proud in this photo. I have enlarged and enhanced the first photo, for a greater detail view. It is pictured first for your enjoyment.


                            As Ken White said, metal detectors became smaller and lighter as tiny transistors replaced oversized vacuum tubes. The transistors reduced the size of the PCB technology and also required less battery power, thus beginning to shrink the requirements for battery power. This created a newer and more useable model, that could be comfortably hand-held, and more hobbyists and prospectors now had the opportunity to begin using metal detecting and began to hunt for gold, silver, coins, lost treasure, and buried artifacts. Here for your enjoyment, is a sales brochure created for Ken Whites's OreMaster Geiger Counter in the year of 1950s, shown below.


                            Now the 1960 OreMaster Geiger Counter, I have the advertisement for that machine. So you see, Ken White back in 1950s, was creating OreMaster Geiger Counters, and BFO detectors in 1958.

                            On March 19th, 1958, there was a publicity story, in the Albany Democrat Herald newspaper, telling about Whites Metal Detectors, along with engineers Richard Howe, Carl Gall, & Frank Gall, and son, Ken White Jr. While most of the article was more speculative, Ken White said he had been a hardware and furniture dealer, decided it was either furniture or electronics, and electronics won the battle, so he closed out the furniture and is full time metal detector business. Now I have now enlarged the photo of 1950s circa, cut it to size to fit into this booklet, and will now put it into the booklet, and comment on the photo. This quality of this photo was done by myself!


                            Okay, in this above photo, the units with two meters, on the left side, these are BFO metal and mineral detectors; the top meter indicated a metal target; the bottom meter indicates an mineral target; so basically they are discriminating between metal and minerals via the two meters. Most of the other units are either Geiger Counters, or units that detect underground pools of either oil or water. So if they worked, Ken White Sr had tapped a broad base of detectors. And this photo is of a room labeled "Laboratory". And one can see various sized wooden coils hanging and placed in the room. Why find minerals? Well magnetic black sands contain the gold nuggets, that's why!


                            Now for a better analysis, the above photo is of a 1959 BFO model, called Treasure Master, and it is now a single meter, showing metal target, with an metal/mineral tuner control, and this unit has a wooden coil shell. That is one coil, not two coils. And for further study, the below BFO/TR metal detector, from 1960s, , is a MS-60 model, with two meters. So the buyer had more choices.

                            In 1961, Whites Electronics introduced its line of IB (TR) in metal detectors, and by way of identification the meter background is then red color, and the meter background for the BFO metal detectors remains a white background. So now one can quickly identify the Whites BFO from the Whites IB (TR) metal detectors by red meter color! The first TR was a Goldmaster S63 model and the new coil being introduced back in 1960 and 1961, was the TRIPLET coil. It was a plastic housed coil, and not sure if the wooden coils were still being made or discontinued at this time.

                            In 1974, George Payne invented the new VLF detector, which was introduced in 1975, it was called GEB, for Ground Exclusion Balance, and was an all metal model, and was extremely sensitive, in fact too sensitive, it could see rust for corrosion in the water tests on Padre Island. So when the 1976 model was released, it was slightly scaled back as far as sensitiveness and included a new TR discriminator. It was called the Whites Coinmaster V Supreme model. It still had the Triplet coil, but in the future was coming a new coil. I have a 1976 version, which Ken White Sr updated as far as a newer coil version, and really works good. It is probably the only model in existence. But I could be wrong. Yes, mine is a brand new model, and it has the latest Series 3 coil, which never came out with the Coinmaster V Supreme model. See it below� Yes, I do think is "one of a kind" machine!!!


                            And here is the new Series 3 coil, which is frequency tuned for my V Supreme metal detector�

                            And now Whites Electronics, and its detectors, are now no longer BFO machines, but are VLF's.

                            Now down in Louisiana, a man named Edward Rance, created his own version of the BFO. He made it from airplane aluminum, so the weight was minimum. His BFO was a discriminator, and it used meter discrimination between good metals and trash metals. Charles Garrett reverse engineered that BFO, and came out with Garrett's own discriminator, which was also patented. Here are some photos of Edward's BFO. I owned one, and used it extensively in the Cripple Creek Mining District, and while I found lots of vintage coins and vintage relics, it had "drift" problems, and one had to constantly re-tune the beat of the frequency, when walking from sunlight into shady areas.
                            Here is Rance's advertisement in May 1969.


                            Is the adv true? Yes it is true. It really did discriminate using the meter. But like I said, it was constantly drifting in and out of frequency beat tuning all the time. That is why Rance put a fine tuning control near your fingers, so you could "roll" the fine tune knob to and fro. Was it light weight? Yes, it was the lightest detector I have swung metal detecting. Here I am using the SST Treasure Pro metal detector, in August 1973, on the beaches of California. Sorry the photo is so small, but it was taken at a distance by my wife. It did not have as much depth as the Compass Professional Yukon model, and after I tried the Compass, I sold the Rance machine, and used the Yukon, which had depth, sensitivity, and more so, it used a DD coil to get right next to the target. But lets take a enhanced look at the SST Treasure Pro machine. My Rance machine is below...


                            There it is. There are two knobs just below the meter. The upper one is the fine tune, which you reached with your thumb to re-tune the beat of the BFO. Right below it is the coarse tuning knob. It set the initial tune, and you put the center meter "needle" into the center of the meter. When you hit a good metal target, the meter needle deflected to the right into the GOOD area and you dug this target. If the target was bad, the meter needle deflected to the left, into the BAD area of the meter.

                            The machine sat on four short legs, out of the dirt. The rear of the control box, held the batteries. You removed the screws to open the battery end. It could have used an easier way to open and replace the batteries. But it was not a power hungry machine. But it had bad drift problems!


                            Here is the meter close-up. You first set the coarse tuning adjust, and then turned the knob under the meter, with your finger, for fine tuning of the beat frequency. To set the meter at center, there is a knob marked "C-Tune", and you turn it one way or the other way, set the meter at the .5 center location. Now it is ready to detect. To the left of .5 is trash targets. To the right of .5 are the good metal targets which you always dug up. I will now show the rest of the controls below.

                            Okay, here in the center, is the Off/On switch, and it also turns up the volume of the audio sound. Below that control, is the C-Tune which you turn to put the meter needle into the center .5 range of the meter. The upper control, marked Meter F, is the coarse adjust of the frequency of the BFO beat frequency. Above this control, which is not shown here, is the fine tuning adjust control of the frequency beat. Now before we leave this detector, lets take a look at the below adv photo.


                            I was a dealer for Ray Smith, who was the brother in law of Charles Garrett, and Ray Smith owned the National Treasure Hunters League, which is the NTHL logo. Ray Smith made this brochure for his newspaper which he mailed to his dealers and to customers each month. I enhanced the brochure, as it was not this clear or good. I reserve a copyright on this artwork. I tested this machine on the beaches of California and tested it in the mining ghost towns from Colorado to California.

                            Like I said, Charles Garrett reverse engineered this Treasure Pro model, and from it came the Garrett BFO Discriminator, which was much more stable and went deeper into the ground, and also Charles Garrett used a crystal part to eliminate beat frequency drift and his was drift free!

                            The photo on the next page, is the control view, of the first Garrett Discriminator. You can see that Garrett when he made his Discriminator, he made it Metal/Mineral, so it could be used to tune in the Mineral side, like Whites Electronics Metal/Mineral BFO. He also had a battery test, for each of the batteries, for the convenience of the customers. He also had a separate improved meter center adjust for the meter needle. And the BFO beat frequency, tuned in either metal detection, or mineral detection, and at the same time tuned in a stable fast or slow frequency beat of the detector. Was it better? Yes it was. Was it more stable? Yes it was. Was it heavier? Yes it was. Did it go deeper? Yes it did go deeper. Again, why mineral tuning and detection. Where the black sands lay in the mining regions, no matter if the black sands were magnetic nor non-magnetic, the gold nuggets found there own way into that region, and lay with the black sands. In fact, the gold nuggets would even lay deeper below the black sands, if there was room to go deeper. I found that the gold nuggets would travel below the black sands, into the clay deposit areas, and even in some cases, penetrate into the clay deposits, and even reach the impervious layers of the clay deposits, and then reside in that impervious clay deposit area. Now if you searched in All Metal mode, if the gold nuggets were deeper in the ground, they might be too deep for the metal detector to find them. But if you searched in Mineral mode, found the black sands, dug down into the black sands, even dug down into the lower clay deposits, and work that area with a gold pan, or a gold rocker, or a gold sluice, you would indeed find the elusive gold nuggets.


                            Now that we have seen Garrett's Discriminator, lets go further back into time, and see one of his early BFO detectors, the photo below on the right, is the 1962 Hunter detector , but was older then Ed Rance's Discrimination machines. It is the oldest Garrett photo I possess! The photo on the below left side is from the 1973 patent time period.


                            This was one of Garrett's "early" BFO detectors. I can say for certain it was not the first, but it was near the first of his BFO detectors. He began in 1964, which was after Whites Electronics, also after Fisher Laboratories machines. He opened in 1964, used his garage, so he used a P.O. Box as his address. Lets take a enhanced look at the control area above of one of his 1973 Hunter detector. I want you to notice, that you could select either the smaller coil, or the larger coil, which Garrett wound into one coil housing. And like I said, you could search either for metal targets, or for mineral targets. And he had a combination on/off switch with also tuned in greater or lesser volume. And you could check each of the batteries. On top was the Good/Bad meter, with the meter needle center control. Sturdy? You bet it was sturdy. A real seller it was. Very popular metal detector.


                            And here above, a full view, showing the machine, from controls, meter, shaft and the coil. The 1973 Hunter BFO metal detector, built by Charles Garrett. I owned a 1973 BFO, which was a Master Hunter package, and it had coils ranging from a 2" coil unto the largest coil, a 24 x 24, and housed in a beautiful green detector case. I still have that case stored in my basement. I sold the Master Hunter detector, and entire package, outside of the green case, to a customer. I loved the Master Hunter package, made up my own brochure to sell the package, and therefore here it is on the next page.

                            But before you go on to the next page, here is a enhanced photo, of Charles Garrett, holding his Hunter BFO detector, along with newer Master Hunter BFO machine, and a newer Master Hunter TR machine. All made with parts that matched U.S. Government contract parts specifications, as told to me by Charles Garrett in a conversation from the past when I spoke to him on a phone call.





                            And now, I will leave Garrett Electronics, and go to the early Compass Electronics, line of BFO metal detectors. I was also an dealer for Compass, and loved their machines as well as I loved Charlies's Garrett machines; loved Ken Whites Electronics machines; loved Fishers metal detectors, and loved Teknetics and Bounty Hunter metal detectors. I loved the Ed Rance machine, except it drifted like crazy�

                            Let's look at Garretts brochure, headed SPECIAL PACKAGES first, and then we will look at Compass BFO's right below, sitting on top of the shipping container!


                            There we see, both the BFO-41 and the BFO-64 models Compass BFO, sitting on top of the factory shipping boxes, with one 12" coil. I have enhanced all photos in my booklet for immaculate clarity so that all print is absolutely clear. The 41 model has the meter and additional controls. According to Allan Cannon, Compass representative, very few Compass BFO's were actually made. It was like around 12 or so Compass BFO metal detectors that were actually assembled and sold.

                            ODDS AND ENDS IN EARLY BFO'S METAL DETECTORS
                            We will first take a look at Bill Mahan Sr's early BFO machines. Now they pre-dated Garrett's BFO detectors, but after Garrett's BFO's hit the market, Mahan's machines kind of diminished in sales.

                            These came from the collections of Paul, who has a lot of vintage metal detectors. Mahan's machines are called D-Tex metal detectors. Up to when Garrett's BFO's came out, D-Tex BFO machines ruled the roost!


                            Now I am going to do something that has never been done before in a metal detector booklet. I am going to let the people (employees, engineers, etc) who were "in the know" about what was going on out in the metal detector sales and manufacturing world. It is hearsay from them. Not from me!

                            Garrett burned the midnight oil and came out with their first master hunter VLF soon after Whites brought out the V supreme. I know, due that Charlie was up in Idaho and I got to use the proto type that had a coaxial that was made out of wood. It had about a couple inch's over the Whites due to the coaxial fringe area on coin sized target's Just straight VLF and no discrimination and operated at 2 KHZ. Best damn silver detector I ever owned. not too good on nickels, gold was ok and it was replaced in a years time with discrimination and is still at 2 KHZ. You could get a white loop or one which had the orange loop. Discrimination sucked on both the whites and deep seeker. I did have a 12x24 coaxial loop too! It was a boat anchor and did not perform very well that is when Whites moved up the frequency and Garrett went with their 5.5 KHZ. It worked much better in discrimination. Then came out the Bounty Hunter RB 7 and that was a whole new ball game. Best in Hunting A.C. (Allan Cannon)

                            Greetings! The first Master Hunter VLF was a simple ground balance and manual tuning that sold for $329 back in late 1975-76. Whites then added discrimination and so Garrett followed and added discrimination as well with push button tuning and made it a lot more simplified while adjusting the ground balance. Discrimination was unforgiving due to the lower 2 KHZ frequency. (Note: Compass also had its own low Khz machines as well.)

                            Then Whites raised the frequency to the 6.59 KHZ so Garrett followed and raised it up to around 5.5 KHZ in early of 1977 in which was about the same time as the new featherweight Ground Hog 15 KHZ was released. The early 1977 Deep Seekers had red color panels. My opinion these was Garretts best deep seekers in depth in all metal and discrimination. Then the next generation was the ADS Deepseeker in which I sold my Deep Seeker to get the new ADS and was very sad do to the performance was mellowed out, but the ADS did have the mode selector on the end of the handle.

                            Garrett deep seeker carried over to what they called the Marksman and they dropped the price down to like $199. I always thought it was the best bang for the dollar due that these had a very powerful all metal and a lot more sensitive in the discrimination mode. When Garrett dropped the original Deepseeker that was being replaced with the new push button with discrimination they dropped the price down to $199.. Any orange co-axial loop was the 2 KHZ and they did make them in white as well. The only other loop for these units was a 12x24" co-axial that was a flop!

                            ALLAN C. (Allan Cannon) Former Compass and Garrett employee

                            Hi! Garrett wanted something different to stand out with their new detector. Beings this was their first attempt with a VLF. When I picked out my first Deep seeker, I did choose the burnt Orange coil. For Garrett, this was a trial balloon and was something different. As the white co-axial was made from day forth and I still have my ADS Deepseeker along with a Co-axial. The co-axial was wonderful for ore sampling and the original 2 KHZ had Whites CM5 beat in depth on coins by 2 inches . Between my First CM 5 and the Garrett Deep Seeker I had never found so much silver to this day. It was like a new frontier in detecting for deep coins and silver! Allan C.

                            Howdy AU.... Gold Mountain started out with a BFO detector in that plastic housing back about mid 70's and soon after that , Garrett purchased the Gold mountain and held it for a short time. Then Phil Stork eventually purchased the GM line and they dropped the BFO and made a clone of the Garrett 15 KHZ Groundhog. About the same time Dorian Cook left Garrett and Frank Ball and Dorian started up the D-Tex line once more. In which was the clone of the Garrett Deepseeker and Ground Hog. Also D-Tex came out with the newer concentric loop that could be change from Gold Mountain-Garrett and D-tex. This new concentric had about 1-2 inches over the standard Garrett loop at the time and I got in some trouble due that I had one of these loops on my Ground hog and Mr. Garrett didn't appreciate the fact it was a deeper seeking loop over his own coil design. Then later on Richard Ray purchased the GM line and started making the Phantoms detectors from that point. So Gold Mountain's been around the block a few times and their 15 KHZ was just as good as the Ground Hog and that is when Garrett changes the Pin connectors on the detectors and loops. Best in Hunting. Allan Cannon

                            Remember that there was Gold Mountain, and after a resurrection it became Gold Mountain Technologies, but with different equipment.

                            Most of the original Gold Mountain models were TR Disc. models, and some were VLF/TR-Disc models. Of them my favorite was the last of their run which was the Gold Mountain VIP Deluxe. The VIP came with one search coil, and the Deluxe came with a larger 10" coil included. That was how many manufacturers sold detectors back then, using a model name that noted a 2-coil package. I was selling and using the VIP Deluxe about 29-30 years ago so you can imagine what it lacked with what we have now.
                            Monte

                            Back in 1979 or 1980 the Gold Mountain Coin Finder was imported into Europe and it was one of the few machines locked into the discrimination mode that was any good. Under $100 and with a two year warranty and their 24 hour burn in test that weeded out faulty detectors. The Treasure Spy was even better for about $30 more and there was the "Eagle" as the top of that range with two coils included.

                            Its not going to beat the mid or top of range detectors of today but GM offered good value for their cost at the time and it would be interesting to see how it would compare against the cheaper detectors of today. UK Brian
                            Just wondering if any Old Die hard's out there are still using a Bill Mahan BFO detectors like the Professional, Deluxe, Standard, KoinKing or Tiny Tex? At 455 KHZ it is really bad on silver foil, but would find small tiny stuff as well. Garrett's 288 Khz BFO detectors was top notch and White's 100 Khz was OK! I still get a hankering and bust out my HUNTER or Cache Hunter and hit some bark chips and they still produce quite well for there age. Fun Hunting A.C. (Allan Cannon)

                            Thanks for the heads up on the Hombre, Wasn't sure if I had an Hombre so checked my Garrett collection and didn't see one. However, Do have an unmarked proto-type Garrett BFO from Allan Cannon with a painted red coil from it sure is identical to the Hombre but then many did resemble a lot back then. Alan told me this particular coil was painted red for a Garrett advertisement and If I remember right it was a special coil? It only works on this BFO and I think one other, It's marked 288 underneath the coil. Have other Garrett coils too one is marked 455 I believe, That one particular coil only works with one or two of Garrett BFO in my collection. A.C.
                            {Note: Manufactures and engineers made many special TEST COILS, and this 288 and 455 are test coils}. I have commented into Allan Cannons and Paul (Ca) posting here. I like to let the readers know what I know. I personally own several test coils for Compass machines and other manufacturers machines. Melbeta

                            Anyway, She still fires up works great and has kind of a camouflage light blue color to it. Check out the lowest of three pics, The camouflaged blue shows well in this pic, She's a beauty actually the only Garrett BFO in my collection with this cool camo (camouflage) paint. Paul (Ca)

                            The following machine is a Garrett BFO, the model on the left is the Mini-Hunter BFO, and it was the 2nd BFO metal detector that Charles Garrett ever made, back in the time around 1964 or so. You can see it is a simple metal/mineral BFO, without the "bells and whistle" options that the Garrett HUNTER BFO machine had to offer the customer. The machine on the right is Garrett's first BFO DISCRIMINATOR metal detector. If you notice, the early or the earliest BFO models that Garrett made, were green cases and handles, with the hand piece this particular red plastic color. I called them bicycle handle bar grips way back in the bicycle days. That was the official name back then, and I bet it is what Charlie Garrett called his too. For the readers information by the time Charlie Garrett became a metal detector manufacturer he had acquired space agency technology, and one of the pieces of equipment up on the moon, was created and perfected by Charles Garrett.










                            I put this brochure photo of the Bounty Hunter Outlaw model; it was not only a BFO, it was also a IB (TR) machine, and this particular coil was a Triplet coil, or what we called a triple coil back in those days. There was another coil, which was for the BFO, was smaller in size and you used it when running the BFO part of the detector. Now this coil was run on the TR part of the machine. Now this booklet, is not chronologically oriented, it is like a rolling train. As the train rolls along it goes, and this book rolls along and goes the same way. So next I am going to put in an old photo of Ken Whites early oil pool detectors. Did it work? I have no idea myself. Knowing Ken, it probably did...

                            Now I am going to jump into an older series of photos of BFO and TR (IB) detectors, before the age of VLF detectors. I don't know the name of each and every model of detector. So bear with me�

                            Now if anyone knows the names or the manufacture and models, post the picture number, and the unit from the left side of the photos. I will then revised this booklet with ID names.
                            MELBETA


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                              Anyone else other then myself, who has at least ONE of the Bounty Hunter Big Bud Pro SE PLUS models??? I doubt it, but am asking.......

                              The company went out of business as the shipment was enroute to my place.... I took it out into the boon docks, and was blown away!!!!!!!!!! A pity that the machine disappeared, and George Payne lost his job and Bounty Hunter, and TEK LTD went out of business.......... Years ago, I tried to see if others had ONE of them, and never found anyone who had one then myself!!!!!

                              Hmmmmmmmmm! I got a lab and field test, but it seems to be too large for this forum to UPLOAD....

                              I DO have a CHART, from Bounty Hunter, it has the BIG BUD PRO in it, but the SE PLUS unit, was not made when this chart was created. But one can see what some of
                              the TEK LTD machines did in comparison to other MODELS of TEK and Bounty Hunter out there back then when this CHART was available........It only compares the
                              earlier TEK and BOUNTY HUNTER machines, but is interesting to study..........

                              ALL I can say right now, is it used some of the features shown on the chart, and went WAY BEYOND them in options........All encompassing and then some!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                              MELBETA
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