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  • Standalone Differential Front-end

    This is a project that I have been procrastinating on for a long time... a separate TX and pre-amp in a small package that is isolated from the back-end so that it can be placed lower on the shaft relatively close to the TX coil to reduce the coil cable length and thus capacitance. Also it would let me position the back-end and batteries anywhere I want (under the forearm support, etc.) without regard to the coil cable length.

    I have incorporated a variant of the moodz differential pre-amp. It offers the most flexible architecture yet. It can be operated as a differential or single-ended input and offers some ease of interface capabilities for whatever back-end that you wish to use.

    This project uses the same concept as the moodz design, but uses a traditional positive gnd and negative supply approach. This approach has no advantage over the moodz bias generator approcah other than it offers more interface options as the amplifier reference is controlled based on the reference needs of the backend (ADC, uPC, FPGA, analog, etc.). Initially, the backend is a HH2 that I have built with the reference connected to GND.

    The TX section uses the elements of Carl's HH2 TX. The MOSFET used is a FQPF6N60C which has typically a 65pf Coss. The diff coil will be a centertapped 700uH total inductance (effective 175uH TX). Initial intention is for the coil to be a flat spiral 220mm inside diameter with ~18 (36 total) turns of dual wire (or twisted pair as in moodz). The target goal is to achieve a decay to reference with no taget present of <= ~11 usec. Initial modeling suggests that 10usec is easily achieveable.

    This implementation uses the Buur Brown INA217 @ G=56.5 instead of the THAT1500. The INA217 is pin copatible with the THAT1500. The THAT1500 has much more BW than the INA217. With the INA217 gain set at 56.5 the BW is ~1.5mHz.

    The schematic and board layout are completed via Eagle. The layout is on a 2.5" X 1.5" board. The Eagle files are available for any who wish them. The schematic and board image are contained in the attached zip file. The next step is to etch a PCB.
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  • #2
    Simulation Waveforms

    I have created a simulation for the circuit as presented in the schematic and using the inductances specified in the previous post to see what I might expect from the built circuit. These simulations help me realize resonable relative effects of various configurations before commiting them to hardware. They are not always 100% accurate, but have always been reasonably close. I believe I will be satified with the finished product.

    TX pulse = 100usec, Repitition Rate = 3kHz, all traces start at TX switch-off.

    I may have to wait until we return home in mid March to produce a PCB, as I don't really want to buy a gallon of muratic acid to make a cup of etching solution. I already have some at home.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by KingJL View Post
      The schematic and board layout are completed via Eagle. The layout is on a 2.5" X 1.5" board. The Eagle files are available for any who wish them. The schematic and board image are contained in the attached zip file.
      The board image in the zip file has one error. Q2 is reversed (eagle had the package layout as CBE vs. the correct EBC).

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      • #4
        Hello KingJL

        Looks like a interesting project, I will be following it.
        The zip file you posted has two copies of the same schematics contained inside (no board file).

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        • #5
          Originally posted by TryAgain View Post
          The zip file you posted has two copies of the same schematics contained inside (no board file).
          Sorry about that! I'll post the jpeg of the schematic and the corrected board here:
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          • #6
            Originally posted by KingJL View Post
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            Initially, the backend is a HH2 that I have built with the reference connected to GND.

            The TX section uses the elements of Carl's HH2 TX.

            . The schematic and board image are contained in the attached zip file. The next step is to etch a PCB.
            Hi KingJL

            Interesting project.

            Can you explain how you connect this front end to HH2 project. At which points in HH2 schematic?

            Can you post black-white schematic of PCB too (without marked parts on it)?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by WM6 View Post
              Can you explain how you connect this front end to HH2 project. At which points in HH2 schematic?
              I thought I would kludge together a little daughter boad with another INA217 configured as single-ended inverting with variable gain control (see attached jpg). Daughter-board would plug into IC6 socket.

              Can you post black-white schematic of PCB too (without marked parts on it)?
              I will create a pdf with the trace template. I will make sure that it is scaled acurately 1:1. May take me a couple of days to make sure it is right.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by KingJL View Post
                I will create a pdf with the trace template. I will make sure that it is scaled acurately 1:1. May take me a couple of days to make sure it is right.
                Here you go. This is a bottom image (the board is designed as 1 sided).
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by KingJL View Post
                  Here you go. This is a bottom image (the board is designed as 1 sided).
                  I have a high resolution (encapsulated post script) pdf (1200dpi), but it way too large for posting in the forum (zipped it is 2M). If anyone wants it, the only option I have is email.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by KingJL View Post

                    I have a high resolution (encapsulated post script) pdf (1200dpi), but it way too large for posting in the forum (zipped it is 2M). If anyone wants it, the only option I have is email.
                    Thank you. Somewhat too late for me. I just hand-adapted PCB layout to my limited lab possibilities.
                    Maybe useful to someone others too? As I understand layout have to be 2.5" x 1.5" measured on border around circuit?
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                    Last edited by WM6; 12-31-2010, 03:57 AM. Reason: typo

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by WM6 View Post
                      As I understand layout have to be 2.5" x 1.5" measure on border around circuit?
                      The outer black border line is the dimension layer and it is 2.5" X 1.5".

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                      • #12
                        HH2 Daughter-Board

                        I decided not to wait until I can etch a board for my separate differential FE (TX & differential pre-amp). Instead I cobbed together a daughter-board that includes the differential pre-amp and the HH2 backend interface. I used the INA217 as the differential amp IC’s as these are what I have available (and are easily obtainable as samples from TI). This will give me a platform to test different configurations using a differential FE.

                        The gain of the pre-amp differential amp (IC1) is set to 67. The HH2 back-end interface (IC2) is also a differential amp with a variable gain of 1.9 – 31, resulting in an overall variable gain of 127 - 2077. The gain is variable by using a 330 ohm resistor in series with a 10K ohm reverse log audio taper potentiometer as RG for IC2 (connected between PADS G1 & G2 of the schematic).

                        In the schematic R2 is shown as 2K2 as I had used this value for my HH2 R12. In my version of the HH2, I omitted R14 and I also socket mounted R11. When using the daughter board and a differential coil you must not use the HH2 R11 and R12, but remove these and use an appropriate damping resistor between HH2 L1 coil connection and daughter board X1-2. The differential preamp can be used with conventional HH2 coils by shorting X1-1 and X1-2.

                        This daughter board was designed in Eagle.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by KingJL View Post
                          Instead I cobbed together a daughter-board that includes the differential pre-amp and the HH2 backend interface.
                          I see that I forgot to mention that the daughter board plugs into the IC6 socket on my HH2 board!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by KingJL View Post

                            I see that I forgot to mention that the daughter board plugs into the IC6 socket on my HH2 board!
                            I don't forgot to thank you for this tip.

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                            • #15
                              Circuit Malfunction

                              I do not recommend building this board as presented above. Stage 2 (IC2) oscillates! I need to breadboard this to investigate, but I believe this is caused by a too low source impedance for stage 2. I believe that adding a 2.2K between pin 6 of IC1 and pin 2 of IC2 and another 2.2k between pin 3 of IC2 and GND will cure this problem.

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