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  • Testing Help Needed

    At present, I don't have a PI MD, (yet). But there is something I would like to find out about them and I was wondering if someone out there could do a few simple tests and report back on the results? Small pictures of the different readings from the oscilloscope would be great.

    In order to do the tests, you would need the following items:
    1) a digital camera (to record the different signals of the oscilloscope),
    2) a PI MD,
    3) a dual trace oscilloscope (which would be connected to the PI MD to capture the PI's signal as the different materials are passed by the PI MD's coil),
    4) approximately equal sized pieces of; gold, platinum, silver, copper, iron, stainless steel, aluminum,
    5) plastic or styrofoam jug or other container, water, salt, (ignore this if your coil is water proof).

    When doing the tests metals, or minerals should come within detectable range and be held at equal distances to the coil surface. The first test should be a "dry" test in open air with each of the metals and minerals, (except for the salt), followed by a "wet" test done with the same materials in water, then a "salt water" test with each metal, or mineral submerged in water containing about 3.5% salt. (DO NOT do the "wet", or "salt water" tests if your coil is not water proof.)

    I doubt many people have all these items at hand, but testing as many as are available would help. If a person also has a sample of sand containing black sand that could be tested with the gold, platinum, or silver, that would be useful also.

    The purpose of this test is in relation to the potential development of a discriminator for the PI MD's and a GeoTech project with that aim in mind.

    Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.

    F.

  • #2
    There is already an ongoing activity in this area by bugwhiskers.
    See here -> http://thunting.com/geotech/forums/f...splay.php?f=38

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    • #3
      Testing Help Still Needed

      Originally posted by Qiaozhi View Post
      There is already an ongoing activity in this area by bugwhiskers.
      See here -> http://thunting.com/geotech/forums/f...splay.php?f=38
      I'm aware of that. But, like the different versions of the PI Md's, there can be different versions of discriminators.

      F.

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      • #4
        You won't see anything meaningful on an oscope.

        - Carl

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Carl-NC View Post
          You won't see anything meaningful on an oscope.

          - Carl
          If all signals received were the same, then no discriminator would be able to see a difference. There has to be some difference between different materials.

          F.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Functional View Post
            If all signals received were the same, then no discriminator would be able to see a difference. There has to be some difference between different materials.
            There is a difference, you just can't see it on an oscope.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Carl-NC View Post
              There is a difference, you just can't see it on an oscope.
              Perhaps the plot's from a spectrum analyzer would have been a better choice. Not having the right equipment, or the background using much other than the most basic electronic test equipment, makes it difficult to zero in on specifics.

              Either way, I still think a GameBoy cartridge could be programmed to do the job of a discriminator for a PI MD. Whether or not it could do so when the coil is in motion is yet another question. I posted some of the links I have in the Modifications Forum for anyone wishing to follow up on the idea as a project, or for personal testing and development. (See link below.)

              F.
              http://thunting.com/geotech/forums/showthread.php?t=12937

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