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    The Open Detector project aims to produce a modular design that can be used in any country free of patents with hardware and software modules that do contain patented material that may be substituted for some countries or for purely experimental/ educational use in countries where that is allowed.

    To facilitate the code of conduct principle to respect the IP of others, we unfortunately need to understand whether a patent is valid and where. This is best discussed by Code of Conduct participants. To spell it out, having not affirmed your respect for IP, you may cause risk for people who may wish to use your advice. Not having declared any industry affiliation may either devalue your opinion or indicate a conflict of interest/ bias as the case may be.

    To facilitate this, if you wish a patent to be analysed please do the following.

    1. Anyone may start a new thread and include the Patent Number (important to use the country letters at the front), Company (Assignee) or inventor if no company, Patent Title (Abbreviated if needed)
    eg. US3355658 Gardiner, VLF BFO "Differentiating Metal Detector for Detecting Metal Objects....."

    Some patent info is collected by Geotech here: http://www.geotech1.com/cgi-bin/page...le=patents.dat and more may be available in the searchable patent systems of any country in Question.

    2. Begin the post with the disclaimer below.
    3. State what strategy you are proposing for the Open Project that may be covered by the patent.
    4. Post a link to or attach a PDF of the full patent text and any prior art or links to prior art that you know about.
    5. Post the text of the CLAIMS section of the patent.
    6. Begin with any comments or analysis that you believe is relevant remembering that the claims of the patent in question are the important part, although the whole of any patent is also prior art that might invalidate the claims of other patents.
    7. Others and yourself can analyse away.
    8. We should come up with a decision, as far as the Open Project is concerned, whether it can be used in the open detector base design or if it should be excised as a modular component and possibly in what countries it should or should not be used.
    9. We may write to the company in question and seek their view of our analysis if it is to be included in the design.

    DISCLAIMER
    This thread does not provide legal advice. The opinions herein are the opinions of Geotech members who include many technical experts in the field of metal detector technologies, amateur hobbyists and industry professionals. Such as those parties have signed up to the Code of Conduct V3.0 (or as later may be posted) they have affirmed their respect for the IP of others and declared any industry affiliation as required by that.
    This thread is posted for the express purpose of the Open Detector Project to make decisions over what to include in an open design for experimentation and in no way will the posters be liable to you for any opinion, including but not limited to, for commercial use. This is expressly not a source for free expert's advice for any matter currently before a court at the time of posting; however it does form part of a historical body of opinions on metal detector technology and patents. The members of this forum are busy and analysis may not be finalised on any time frame soon or even at all.
    IF YOU ARE NOT A CODE OF CONDUCT MEMBER YOU ARE REQUESTED NOT TO POST YOUR ANALYSIS OR OPINIONS AS YOU HAVE NOT AFFIRMED YOUR RESPECT FOR IP OR NECESSARILY DECLARED ANY INDUSTRY AFFILIATION.
    IN NO WAY SHALL ANYONE BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR THE ADVICE HEREIN AND ANY USE OF THE INFORMATION IN THIS THREAD. YOU MUST OBTAIN THE ADVICE OF AN APPROPRIATE LEGAL PROFESSIONAL BEFORE RELYING ON ANY INFORMATION IN THIS THREAD.
    Last edited by chudster; 11-03-2012, 04:15 AM. Reason: typo

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    Originally posted by chudster View Post

    IF YOU ARE NOT A CODE OF CONDUCT MEMBER YOU ARE REQUESTED NOT TO POST YOUR ANALYSIS OR OPINIONS AS YOU HAVE NOT AFFIRMED YOUR RESPECT FOR IP OR NECESSARILY DECLARED ANY INDUSTRY AFFILIATION.

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    Thanks for your patent analysis suggestion chudster..

    But can you explain a little more your above assertion? Do you try to set a rule of what we shall and what we shall not post here on (I hope still) free forum?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by WM6 View Post
      Thanks for your patent analysis suggestion chudster..

      But can you explain a little more your above assertion? Do you try to set a rule of what we shall and what we shall not post here on (I hope still) free forum?
      Sure. Thanks for seeking clarification.

      Firstly, it is a request- not a rule.

      The reason for that request was briefly explained in the first post:
      To facilitate the code of conduct principle to respect the IP of others, we unfortunately need to understand whether a patent is valid and where. This is best discussed by Code of Conduct participants. To spell it out, having not affirmed your respect for IP, you may cause risk for people who may wish to use your advice. Not having declared any industry affiliation may either devalue your opinion or indicate a conflict of interest/ bias as the case may be.
      The point is that if you post there it is for the purpose of the open project to respect the IP of others and to understand the issue for design decisions and to make sure people have the best information we can gather on which patents are in their jurisdiction so that they can build a non infringing open detector if they wish and collaborate understanding how to modularise the design to do that.

      I made this a request and also specifically said that: "1. Anyone may start a new thread ...."because I wanted to be inclusive of everybody (code of conduct or not).

      You have probably also noted on the "Charter thread" that threads can become 'hijacked' by personal issues that are unrelated because some have a history of dispute or may have undeclared industry affiliation. I do not care who is right or wrong but that has no place when we are trying to make design decisions. The previous patent thread that I started looked like heading that way before we realised that the key patent had lapsed.
      http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showt...nal-Case-Study

      If personal disputes, failure to take IP seriously enough to respect it, or (undeclared) industry affiliations start to pollute important analysis then it is not productive and may be dangerous. It needs to be approached without prejudice.

      I have tried to walk the line between being inclusive and being effective and the request is reasonable for the reasons above.

      Finally, if anyone wants to take the essence of my instructions and post somewhere else for analysing patents for other purposes (ie not the open detector) for themselves then I have no objection.

      Chudster

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