PI or not PI?

[Tinkerer]

In the threads http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15428
http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15402
I have presented ideas about a Pulse Induction (PI) detectors using Induction Balanced coils, to be able to discriminate targets.

It has been suggested that it is wrong to call this "New Technology" PI technology.

So in this thread, I am asking for suggestions for a name that fits a detector that uses a Pulse to induce eddy currents in a target, and uses an Induction Balanced coil assembly, consisting of a TX coil winding, a RX coil winding and a Bucking coil winding, to transmit the pulse and receive the response of the target.

Names?

Tinkerer

[Qiaozhi]

In the threads http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15428
http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15402
I have presented ideas about a Pulse Induction (PI) detectors using Induction Balanced coils, to be able to discriminate targets.

It has been suggested that it is wrong to call this "New Technology" PI technology.

So in this thread, I am asking for suggestions for a name that fits a detector that uses a Pulse to induce eddy currents in a target, and uses an Induction Balanced coil assembly, consisting of a TX coil winding, a RX coil winding and a Bucking coil winding, to transmit the pulse and receive the response of the target.

Names?

Tinkerer

The initials P.I. stand for "pulse induction", which is exactly what you are using. How you detect and sample the received signal still doesn't alter this fact. I don't believe there is any need to invent a new name.

[Max]

In the threads http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15428
http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15402
I have presented ideas about a Pulse Induction (PI) detectors using Induction Balanced coils, to be able to discriminate targets.

It has been suggested that it is wrong to call this "New Technology" PI technology.

So in this thread, I am asking for suggestions for a name that fits a detector that uses a Pulse to induce eddy currents in a target, and uses an Induction Balanced coil assembly, consisting of a TX coil winding, a RX coil winding and a Bucking coil winding, to transmit the pulse and receive the response of the target.

Names?

Tinkerer

Hi,
yes, basically it's still, always a PI, so first part of name will be PI I think... then you can use a "-" and something more to go more on details.
You have a transmit coil and a dedicated rx coil... so you could add T/R (transmit/receive) as an example.... much like happens when talking of e.g. VLF-T/R to say that the md have more than one coil (old vlfs were also monocoil e.g. PLL things that measured e.g. frequency deviations like also BFO... ).

As an example the correct way to indicate a vlf machine with separate t/r coils and balanced design (IB) would be maybe VLF-IB-T/R: that way you maybe use so long label but reveal alot of how the md actually works.

In your case you have a PI + IB + T/R coils so that you have something mayeb like this:

PI-IB-T/R

...indeed the e.g. Shiebel AN/PSS-12 (standard deming set of US Army) is described like a PI and no other things... though has separate tx and rx coils

A user friendly name will be better I think... can call e.g. "pindbal" ... to say "pulse-induction-balanced" design but seem much like pinball... so I don't know if marketing guys would approve (ever) such a thing!

Kind regards,
Max

[Qiaozhi]

How about just calling it "Tinkerer's PI Detector"?

[Esteban]

Maybe results doesn't are very different than Sascho PI discriminative MD (posted in this forum) wich uses a receiver coil and also acts as induction balance. Pulsedec detector of 1973 is PI wich also use a receiver coil and for this reason also is induction balance.

[Carl-NC]

Transmit-Receive Induction Pulse -- TRIP
Pulse Induction Transmit-REceive -- PITRE (rhymes with litre)
Delta Induction Receive-Transmit -- DIRT
Transient Induction Receive Detector -- TIRD

How 'bout just Transient Induction? "TI"... Texas Instruments might complain. Or, like the White's model, "TDI"... Time-Domain Induction.

[Qiaozhi]

Transmit-Receive Induction Pulse -- TRIP
Pulse Induction Transmit-REceive -- PITRE (rhymes with litre)
Delta Induction Receive-Transmit -- DIRT
Transient Induction Receive Detector -- TIRD

How 'bout just Transient Induction? "TI"... Texas Instruments might complain. Or, like the White's model, "TDI"... Time-Domain Induction.

Or how about Transient Universal Receive Detector -- TURD?

Sorry ... couldn't resist it.

[hobbes_lives]

Or how about Transient Universal Receive Detector -- TURD?

Sorry ... couldn't resist it.

Thanks for making me choke on my coffee this morning!

[Tinkerer]

Or how about Transient Universal Receive Detector -- TURD?

Sorry ... couldn't resist it.

Hey, I like that one, did't Max mention some elephant turds?

Tinkerer

[Tinkerer]

Transmit-Receive Induction Pulse -- TRIP
Pulse Induction Transmit-REceive -- PITRE (rhymes with litre)
Delta Induction Receive-Transmit -- DIRT
Transient Induction Receive Detector -- TIRD

How 'bout just Transient Induction? "TI"... Texas Instruments might complain. Or, like the White's model, "TDI"... Time-Domain Induction.

Thanks to all for the effort. Please do not stop here. Keep coming up with more alternatives.I am sure we will end up with a killer name.

Maybe I should mention some of the other innovative techniques involved.

Triple transient sampling
Dual TX voltage
Intrinsic X signal subtraction
Dual Tau target excitation

I will stop at that. There is enough information here.

Tinkerer

[Max]

Or how about Transient Universal Receive Detector -- TURD?

Sorry ... couldn't resist it.

I like it!

[Max]

Hey, I like that one, did't Max mention some elephant turds?

Tinkerer

Hi,
yes I did... but... well... not... I was talking about farts indeed...

Forging
Another
Receiving
Transmitting
System

Uhm... maybe the marketing guys... will never approve that too...

Kind regards,
Max

[Esteban]

Instead common LCD screen you can use in MD a small scope for to see transients from the soil (mineralization and telluric currents) and real signal soil/target parameters. So, in this case, the detector become in a labo MD.

PS: I understand the sense and what mean your words.

[Max]

Thanks to all for the effort. Please do not stop here. Keep coming up with more alternatives.I am sure we will end up with a killer name.

Maybe I should mention some of the other innovative techniques involved.

Triple transient sampling
Dual TX voltage
Intrinsic X signal subtraction
Dual Tau target excitation

I will stop at that. There is enough information here.

Tinkerer

Hi,
what do you think of...

STRIKE-PI, Separate Transmit Receive Inductive Keystone Equilibrium Pulse Induction

Seems long! But there's all I think...

Kind regards,
Max

[Mechanic]

Instead common LCD screen you can use in MD a small scope for to see transients from the soil (mineralization and telluric currents) and real signal soil/target parameters. So, in this case, the detector become in a labo MD.

PS: I understand the sense and what mean your words.

I like the idea of a built in CRO. Also with the duel voltage, you should make it adjustable.
Cheers