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  • #16
    Originally posted by homefire View Post
    In one of those videos it's stated that Detector are forbidden and need to be Smuggled in.

    Yes they have gold but also a repressive Government it seems.

    Import Duties , Permits and Licences could be way over the top?

    I really don't know what the deal is.

    It looks like the guy with the detector held some special status for sure.
    There is a lot of gold and the gold is spread over several continents and many countries.

    Each country has it's own laws and interests about gold.

    In some countries, like Brazil, the gold digging is legal and there are rules.
    In some countries the whole gold digging aspect is totally forbidden.

    So I would say, to look at it in a business like manner, first we should make a list of countries where the legal situation is such that a market for nugget detectors could exist.

    Then we could divide this list of countries into similar categories. The categories represent somewhat similar conditions and needs of the gold diggers that must be met to make the acquisition of a detector interesting.

    For example, a nugget detector designed for the steamy jungle where torrential rain downpours is a near daily occurrence, might not be the best design for the desert where ever present dust and 50 degree Celsius temperature is common.

    Once we have established some categories, we can look at numbers. How many gold diggers are there for each category? Would 100,000 gold diggers buy 10,000 metal detectors if the detectors were adapted to their needs?

    The good thing about all this, is that we know that enough gold exists to pay for the detectors.

    The challenge is to produce a product, tailored for the specific market.

    Tinkerer

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    • #17
      Originally posted by wesam View Post
      you will come Tinkerer
      and about gold nuggets we didnt have it here as a large pieces
      Studies have been conducted by jordanian Natural Resources Authority in the Southern of jordan thay find Visible gold In several samples of heavy metals reached 40 g / t, and also reached some of the samples to 5 g / t .
      The most of peple in middle east interested in old coins That are sometimes buried of several meters .
      I do not know if I can get help to get metal detector scheme detects deep meters or if you can give me advise in this regard.
      thanks a lot.
      Locating such treasures is a totally different challenge to locating gold nuggets. The market for a detector specially designed for locating such treasures will be limited to a few detectors.

      You mention depth of meters. This represents a challenge. The great value of the treasures can compensate for the design difficulties, but only if the legal situation of the treasure is clear.

      What is the legal situation of such treasures in your country?

      Tinkerer

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      • #18
        Yea, I think South Africa is like that on the gold.

        The Corporations and the State have it all locked up. Sad, Sad!

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Tinkerer View Post
          Locating such treasures is a totally different challenge to locating gold nuggets. The market for a detector specially designed for locating such treasures will be limited to a few detectors.

          You mention depth of meters. This represents a challenge. The great value of the treasures can compensate for the design difficulties, but only if the legal situation of the treasure is clear.

          What is the legal situation of such treasures in your country?

          Tinkerer
          legal situation of such treasures in here not allowed to search even if it was in central of my house,

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Tinkerer View Post
            Locating such treasures is a totally different challenge to locating gold nuggets. The market for a detector specially designed for locating such treasures will be limited to a few detectors.

            You mention depth of meters. This represents a challenge. The great value of the treasures can compensate for the design difficulties, but only if the legal situation of the treasure is clear.

            What is the legal situation of such treasures in your country?

            Tinkerer
            What is the best depth of these devices can detect؟

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            • #21
              Originally posted by wesam View Post
              What is the best depth of these devices can detect؟
              Coins up to 1 meter deep.

              The larger pieces shown in your picture, could be detected up to about 2 meters.

              If the pot is made out of bronze or other metal, it could be detected more than 3 meters deep.

              Tinkerer

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              • #22
                Originally posted by wesam View Post
                legal situation of such treasures in here not allowed to search even if it was in central of my house,
                This will obviously reduce the value of the treasure to a small fraction and dis-courage any significant investment.

                Tinkerer

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Tinkerer View Post
                  Coins up to 1 meter deep.

                  The larger pieces shown in your picture, could be detected up to about 2 meters.

                  If the pot is made out of bronze or other metal, it could be detected more than 3 meters deep.

                  Tinkerer
                  Hi Tinkerer
                  Thank you for the feedback
                  could you help me please to find an experienced metal detector schamtic to construction

                  thank you very much

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Tinkerer View Post
                    Coins up to 1 meter deep.

                    The larger pieces shown in your picture, could be detected up to about 2 meters.

                    If the pot is made out of bronze or other metal, it could be detected more than 3 meters deep.

                    Tinkerer
                    Coins up to 1 meter deep - no way.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by maikl View Post
                      Coins up to 1 meter deep - no way.
                      Hi Maikl,

                      not every type and size of coin, but I would say definitely the larger gold and silver coins.

                      Would you like to build such a detector?

                      Would you like to work on the design of such a detector?

                      I think it would be an exciting project.

                      Tinkerer

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by wesam View Post
                        Hi Tinkerer
                        Thank you for the feedback
                        could you help me please to find an experienced metal detector schamtic to construction

                        thank you very much
                        Hi Wesam,

                        I do not know of any commercial detector that is capable of that. But there are no detectors designed specifically for such a task.

                        Very few people are willing to dig holes to a depth of several meters.

                        Only very few people would be interested to buy such a detector, therefore no manufacturer would want to invest in the research and development of such a detector.

                        To design and build such a detector would be more of an academic exercise.

                        I definitely believe that it is possible to design and build a detector for your specific task. To do that you will need to supply accurate information on the work environment.

                        Can you describe how exactly you would use the detector?

                        Tinkerer

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Tinkerer View Post
                          Hi Maikl,

                          not every type and size of coin, but I would say definitely the larger gold and silver coins.

                          Would you like to build such a detector?

                          Would you like to work on the design of such a detector?

                          I think it would be an exciting project.

                          Tinkerer
                          How large gold and silver coins? Much like a coins for King Kong? I am a little joke do not be angry Tinkerer.
                          I want to build such a detector
                          I want to work on the design of the detector.
                          Yes that would be an exciting project but it seems impossible. Even the depth of 0.5m for a coin of 25mm on a real field acting impossible. Best regards.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by maikl View Post
                            How large gold and silver coins? Much like a coins for King Kong? I am a little joke do not be angry Tinkerer.
                            I want to build such a detector
                            I want to work on the design of the detector.
                            Yes that would be an exciting project but it seems impossible. Even the depth of 0.5m for a coin of 25mm on a real field acting impossible. Best regards.
                            Good!!!!

                            If you want you can!!!!

                            So where do we start? Let's look at the PI detector that you have.

                            Pick a coin as a test target. You can probably get a 1 Euro coin. Not a good test target because it is bi-metal, but it ill do.

                            How deep does your detector detect it? in air? in the ground? So now we have a reference to work with.

                            What is the coil current at switch off?

                            What is the diameter of the coil?

                            How many turns?

                            With these numbers we will know what the field strength and the field density is at the depth where you detect the coin.

                            I will stop here for today. When you give the numbers, we will continue.

                            If you want you can!!!!

                            All the best

                            Tinkerer

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                            • #29
                              Hi Tinkerer. I thought that you have done and worked out a project that has been tested on real field (the coin of 25 mm to 1 m depth). When what you are planning to upgrade my Barracuda PI detector. I am satisfied with the Barracuda and I would not change anything.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by maikl View Post
                                Hi Tinkerer. I thought that you have done and worked out a project that has been tested on real field (the coin of 25 mm to 1 m depth). When what you are planning to upgrade my Barracuda PI detector. I am satisfied with the Barracuda and I would not change anything.
                                If I tell you I have such a detector you will say I have to prove it.
                                If I show you a video you will say it is fake.

                                You say you want to build such a detector.
                                When I want to show you how you can build such a detector you are too lazy to build one.

                                I guess you can not be helped.

                                Tinkerer

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