Voodoo Main Discussion

[lamoiz]

"You do not really understand something unless you can explain it to your grandmother."

Albert Einstein

The mind is like a parachute: if it remains closed, we crush.
Franck Zappa.

[6666]

for those who are interested, after the jokes, I did a Master in wood, to prepare the super d, I hope to test that at the end or beginning of next week.[ATTACH]54043[/ATTACH]

Are you planning to make some shells ?

[lamoiz]

Are you planning to make some shells ?

yes, I will do them in ABS, under vacuum

[6666]

Probably not for very long though.

It survived its ordeal ok, was running on 12v for about 10 minutes, only thing I really noticed was the out put pulses had small amount of jitter

[6666]

yes, I will do them in ABS, under vacuum

It will be interesting to see your results.

[ivconic]

certainly, I can understand your point of view. I find that this project is an opening to other evolutions, improvements, .. and moreover, it has the merit of being unique in its principle. it may not be the best on your soil, but I think on my land on a beach it might be of some interest .. and then new ideas are always good ideas. I find that this principle is a real GOOD starting point, and it is a good open-mindedness, for those who are a bit very hermetic. I admire this detector, even if it is not the best in the world, whatever, we all make progress with it.

Fair enough.
I agree that it is having potential. the idea behind it.
But it is not finished and not usable like this.
Can't you imagine and anticipate the behavior especially on the beaches?
With binary uniform audio type (beep, beep) you can't do much.
Same beep on rubbish same beep on good item.
Same beep on shallow same beep on deep target.
Same beep on conditions that provokes false signals.
Once upon a time i made a modification on TGSL, the "one shot" or monostabie.
It turns TGSL to a real killer, 1e coin at 60cm ... in the air.
Totally USELESS on soil. Zero. Zilch!
And TGSL has extremely good GEB&DISC circuitry.
With "one shot" modification on the soil; slightest false signal sounds like golden cannon at 2" depth!
And here we have Hybrid PI/IB without GEB and without real DISC circuitry.
With pretty robust flyback.
Use your imagination, try to anticipate the behavior on tough soils.
Bang, bang, dang, dang, here and there. Everywhere!

[godigit1]

Another voodoo up and running.

Only tested with a concentric so far but Disc is working .

The first thing we need to do to the Voodoo is get sampling to at least 10us.

Please Somebody I'm not capable of changing the code and while were at it can we get a TFT screen with on screen sliders

[6666]

Another voodoo up and running.

Only tested with a concentric so far but Disc is working .

The first thing we need to do to the Voodoo is get sampling to at least 10us.

Please Somebody I'm not capable of changing the code and while were at it can we get a TFT screen with on screen sliders

Good to hear it works.

[lamoiz]

Fair enough.
I agree that it is having potential. the idea behind it.
But it is not finished and not usable like this.
Can't you imagine and anticipate the behavior especially on the beaches?
With binary uniform audio type (beep, beep) you can't do much.
Same beep on rubbish same beep on good item.
Same beep on shallow same beep on deep target.
Same beep on conditions that provokes false signals.
Once upon a time i made a modification on TGSL, the "one shot" or monostabie.
It turns TGSL to a real killer, 1e coin at 60cm ... in the air.
Totally USELESS on soil. Zero. Zilch!
And TGSL has extremely good GEB&DISC circuitry.
With "one shot" modification on the soil; slightest false signal sounds like golden cannon at 2" depth!
And here we have Hybrid PI/IB without GEB and without real DISC circuitry.
With pretty robust flyback.
Use your imagination, try to anticipate the behavior on tough soils.
Bang, bang, dang, dang, here and there. Everywhere!

on certain points of your discourse I agree with you. But all design work evolves over time, and the more of us working on this project, the more solutions we will find. I too have doubts about using the DISC on the beach, in salt water. I use a surfPI a lot at the beach, it is mono tone .. it does not indicate depth, no disc, yes I dig on each signal, but it finds .. and the friends who have equinox800 are sometimes surprised by my found after their passages ..

[ivconic]

on certain points of your discourse I agree with you. But all design work evolves over time, and the more of us working on this project, the more solutions we will find. I too have doubts about using the DISC on the beach, in salt water. I use a surfPI a lot at the beach, it is mono tone .. it does not indicate depth, no disc, yes I dig on each signal, but it finds .. and the friends who have equinox800 are sometimes surprised by my found after their passages ..

At the moment RA4 provides simple switch On/Off signal.
I am not familiar with PIC architecture but i assume it is possible to provide PWM output instead and feed different point at audio stage.
That would completely change the whole story.
Along with that; LCD signal bar progress scale would add to its functionality.
And still i am struggling to understand how to affect the sensitivity.
Threshold is not making some differences... at least on my boards here.
Situation will probably change to better, once i obtain more proper coil, will see.

[ionut_mtb]

when i did the felezjoo i was really excited ... and when the reel was laid on the soggy sands of the atlantic ocean the result was so shabby that the felez ended the day in a seaside garbage can. I wasted my time and my money, but I made progress .. and that is the essential. the mpp gives very good results, the surfPI has already given me gold, silver and platinum .. the voodooPI will give me too, it will be good.

where did you had problem with felezjoo? In wet sand? I ask because, felezjoo is the best, in therm of depth (also disc is interesting) , pi detector i made. But tested only in forest. WhAt i don?t like at felezjoo is the lack of threshold, smooth threshold, and to many settings.

regarding voodoo, i was scheptical from the begining. No video. No video until now? Are you kidding? At least air tests... it is a good project, but clearly not tested, like a spice simulation, nothing else. Sorry, this is my opinion.

[lamoiz]

where did you had problem with felezjoo? In wet sand? I ask because, felezjoo is the best, in therm of depth (also disc is interesting) , pi detector i made. But tested only in forest. WhAt i don?t like at felezjoo is the lack of threshold, smooth threshold, and to many settings.

regarding voodoo, i was scheptical from the begining. No video. No video until now? Are you kidding? At least air tests... it is a good project, but clearly not tested, like a spice simulation, nothing else. Sorry, this is my opinion.

hello, you may be skeptical, there is no problem. yes the felezjoo gave me very, very bad results on wet sand, and the discrimination looks like nothing. the parameters (secrets), it is really not good. in short. there is no video in this world of video .. because everyone thinks that the videos are truths ... but I can make a fake video with a detection at 1.5m ... and so .. ?? is that the truth? made this project or go your way, it is the right solution.

[gurdal]

where did you had problem with felezjoo? In wet sand? I ask because, felezjoo is the best, in therm of depth (also disc is interesting) , pi detector i made. But tested only in forest. WhAt i don?t like at felezjoo is the lack of threshold, smooth threshold, and to many settings.

regarding voodoo, i was scheptical from the begining. No video. No video until now? Are you kidding? At least air tests... it is a good project, but clearly not tested, like a spice simulation, nothing else. Sorry, this is my opinion.

[lamoiz]

where did you had problem with felezjoo? In wet sand? I ask because, felezjoo is the best, in therm of depth (also disc is interesting) , pi detector i made. But tested only in forest. WhAt i don?t like at felezjoo is the lack of threshold, smooth threshold, and to many settings.

regarding voodoo, i was scheptical from the begining. No video. No video until now? Are you kidding? At least air tests... it is a good project, but clearly not tested, like a spice simulation, nothing else. Sorry, this is my opinion.

what annoys me the most in this world of pretending is people who criticize, without having tried the thing, and especially who let others do in their place. I don't like it. even though the project has some flaws, I did. Afterwards I will have the legitimacy to speak. I think that there are 4 or 5 of us who have made this project, for sure, as I also make the coil. so give us time to finish. above all, shut your mouth, and wait for the results of others, you second.

[lamoiz]

and the new stars clapping in the back of the room make me throw up.