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  • I used a 7805 to prove out the problem/fix. I then installed a brand name 78L05. I wish you the best of luck. It took me nearly two weeks to sort that one out!

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    • My VooDoo is working.

      For a coil I used an 8inch concentric I build for my HammerHead2.
      This has TX & RX coils of around 400uH and has been nulled.
      A 470nF film cap resonated the RX around 10kHz.

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      • Originally posted by waltr View Post
        My VooDoo is working.

        For a coil I used an 8inch concentric I build for my HammerHead2.
        This has TX & RX coils of around 400uH and has been nulled.
        A 470nF film cap resonated the RX around 10kHz.
        Great news waltr. Well done

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        • Hello!
          I finally got the book and reading through it I noticed that at page 29 figure 3-3 shows a 47uF c26 electrolytic cap when it has to sustain both a positive and negative voltage, which changes depending on the position of the potentiometer.
          When the voltage is positive the cap is connected backwards! Which obviously isn't a good thing!
          Seeing as the caps already present are sufficient for the two tensions (+5v and -5v) a 100nF c26 not electrolytic cap should fix the problem.
          I hope this can be useful to you

          regards nixie.

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          • Originally posted by nixie View Post
            Hello!
            I finally got the book and reading through it I noticed that at page 29 figure 3-3 shows a 47uF c26 electrolytic cap when it has to sustain both a positive and negative voltage, which changes depending on the position of the potentiometer.
            When the voltage is positive the cap is connected backwards! Which obviously isn't a good thing!
            Seeing as the caps already present are sufficient for the two tensions (+5v and -5v) a 100nF c26 not electrolytic cap should fix the problem.
            I hope this can be useful to you

            regards nixie.
            Did you know that the null offset adjustment is very similar to the Hammerhead design, except that Voodoo uses a two-stage preamp?
            It's only taken 15 years for anyone to notice that issue.

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            • Really? I've taken an interest in metaldetectors only recently so I may have noticed just because I wanted to better understand how they work. One day I would like to port it to arduino (stm32c103 bluepill) without changing the schematic, meaning I would just port the code you have kindly given to the bluepill and build a small costumized board. The bluepill costs only 2,50 Euros on ebay, 72mhz, adc 12bit with 3,3v and 0,6uS dual channel dma conversion! Resolution: 3,3V/4096! (check it out here: https://github.com/pingumacpenguin/STM32-O-Scope) Obviously this brings noticeables improvements, but I don't belive I would be able to project it by myself...
              So now I'm trying to build Voodoo! What I don't understand is why so many designers use positive voltage as ground for the analogic circuit, to me it looks like everything would be easier with negative...

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              • Originally posted by nixie View Post
                Really? I've taken an interest in metaldetectors only recently so I may have noticed just because I wanted to better understand how they work. One day I would like to port it to arduino (stm32c103 bluepill) without changing the schematic, meaning I would just port the code you have kindly given to the bluepill and build a small costumized board. The bluepill costs only 2,50 Euros on ebay, 72mhz, adc 12bit with 3,3v and 0,6uS dual channel dma conversion! Resolution: 3,3V/4096! (check it out here: https://github.com/pingumacpenguin/STM32-O-Scope) Obviously this brings noticeables improvements, but I don't belive I would be able to project it by myself...
                So now I'm trying to build Voodoo! What I don't understand is why so many designers use positive voltage as ground for the analogic circuit, to me it looks like everything would be easier with negative...
                Hi Nixie
                Strange that you mention the STM-O-Scope; I am just about start building one.

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                • yes, a very interesting piece of code
                  on the other hand supported by an essential forum
                  (stm32duinoforum.com) with Roger Clark, mrburnette and many many more.
                  A place where you can truly learn.

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                  • Originally posted by nixie View Post
                    What I don't understand is why so many designers use positive voltage as ground for the analogic circuit, to me it looks like everything would be easier with negative...
                    Not all designs use positive ground for the analog circuit. Have a look at the Geotech Baracuda, and also Arduino Nano PI.
                    Geotech Baracuda - REV-A - Project Details
                    Arduino Nano Pulse Induction Metal Detector Project - Published March 2021

                    Note that those particular designs are using a PMOS device to switch the coil, whereas Hammerhead, Voodoo, Minipulse Plus, etc., are using an NMOS device, which means that the coil needs to be referenced to the positive rail.

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                    • yes, I had already seen, but I don't understand what are the advantages of this choice....

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                      • Originally posted by nixie View Post
                        yes, I had already seen, but I don't understand what are the advantages of this choice....
                        If you take two typical examples: IRF9640 (PMOS) and IRF840 (NMOS), the former has a VDS of -200V, whereas the latter has a VDS 0f 500V. This means that the NMOS device can reach a much higher flyback voltage before going into avalanche mode, which generally results in being able to use a shorter main sample delay. NMOS devices also switch off faster and tend to have a lower output capacitance (Coss).

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                        • Originally posted by waltr View Post
                          My VooDoo is working.

                          For a coil I used an 8inch concentric I build for my HammerHead2.
                          This has TX & RX coils of around 400uH and has been nulled.
                          A 470nF film cap resonated the RX around 10kHz.
                          What sort of depth / detecting distance are you getting with this coil?

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                          • Originally posted by MartinB View Post
                            What sort of depth / detecting distance are you getting with this coil?

                            Have not yet gotten that far. So far got it working and Disc ferrous/ nonferrous.
                            The Hybrid display starts indicating with a US one cent at about 10cm. Don't have audio output connected.
                            This is not a great distance but I still need to tweak timing, etc.

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                            • Originally posted by nixie View Post
                              What I don't understand is why so many designers use positive voltage as ground for the analogic circuit, to me it looks like everything would be easier with negative...
                              Take the Voodoo schematic, label the battery-negative as ground, then re-label all the other voltage domains accordingly. See if that makes more sense.

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                              • I blame Benjamin Franklin for causing the confusion between conventional current and electron flow.
                                He had a 50% chance of getting it right, and he chose the wrong option.

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