DIY coil for TESORO VAQUERO/CIBOLA calculation

[reptooyep]

Hi everyone,
I found a shematic of the TESORO CIBOLA metal detector from a russian site and i have requirements for coil building :
TX : 0.95mH 4.3ohm
RX : 15.8mH 63ohm
I have 500 grams of AWG30 magnetic wire so, i would like to use it for both TX and RX but all the calculatore i found do not fit the requirement.

On CHEMELEC's calc, i find for :
TX 49 turns of 26AWG (7.8" inner diameter, length = 0.2", 0.967mH, 4.17ohm)
RX 291 turns of 33AWG (3.9 inner diameter, length = 0.3", 15.802mH, 61.94ohm)

With AWG 30 :
TX 50turns, 0.987mH, 10.56ohm
RX 289turns, 15.981mH, 31.26ohm

Should i modify the colpits oscillator to fit the coil resistance or not ?
For RX, may i add a 30ohm resistance on the coil to fit the requirement ?

Does the TGSL coil fit the CIBOLA and VAQUERO detector ?

I made the board with sprint layout 6, so i would be pleased to share it but i don't know how to add it on the forum.

I realy need advices for this cause i don't have any experience on coil calculation.

Thanks a lot

[reptooyep]

DIY coil for TESORO VAQUERO/CIBOLA calculation

cibola.zip

OK, i find out how to add files. I share the layout file and the shematic.
I don't understand why there is no pinpoint button on the sheme ?
There is one on the VAQUERO and CIBOLA ...

Regards

[kt315]

but i don't know how to add it on the forum

a generator for a coil tuning freq measurement with LAY file.

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[kt315]

you have to remember VAQU and CIBO with uchip PIC based on. so either russian guys add some part for a sound modulation
or you have to write the code. I saw everywhere one wrote the code but can not give a link just now.

[Qiaozhi]

I realy need advices for this cause i don't have any experience on coil calculation.

Coil Calculator

[reptooyep]

you have to remember VAQU and CIBO with uchip PIC based on. so either russian guys add some part for a sound modulation
or you have to write the code. I saw everywhere one wrote the code but can not give a link just now.

Hi,
Thanks for the reply.
Could you have a look at the scheme on my second post cause it don't use pic or avr chip.
It's all analogic.
So, can i wire the rx coil with awg30 and add a resistor to fit the requirement ?
I also have awg26 wire, i could do the same for the tx coil with a resistor.
Thanks

[reptooyep]

Here is a good link for resistance coil calculation :
http://www.positron-libre.com/electronique/mesures/awg/tableau-conversion-awg.php
I hope this can help someone ..

[kt315]

Could you have a look at the scheme on my second post cause it don't use pic or avr chip.
It's all analogic.

ok. but the scheme being remade now is yet NOT Vaquero. do you agree with that? BTW you could make TGSL, any tesoro,
and to call it Vaquero with this success. http://www.findmall.com/read.php?22,1998928

[GSL]

you have to remember VAQU and CIBO with uchip PIC based on. so either russian guys add some part for a sound modulation
or you have to write the code. I saw everywhere one wrote the code but can not give a link just now.

Here is the link for you - cod 5.1


http://md4u.ru/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=8011&start=700


Last cod with VCO 5_01

http://md4u.ru/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=8011&start=825

Вот ссылка

[reptooyep]

the scheme being remade now is yet NOT Vaquero. do you agree with that? BTW you could make TGSL, any tesoro,
and to call it Vaquero with this success. http://www.findmall.com/read.php?22,1998928

I understand that the original design has been changed by a russian guy.
But, the original pic don't have much things do deal with the functionning, no? I mean, CIBOLA is an analogic detector?
PIC is just there to add some improvements, probably on the audio generation.
Do you think this design will not work better than TGSL ?
And what do you think of the KPOT3 project which seems easyer to build ? The videos i've seen on this model are impressives !!

Thanks a lot for your help

[kt315]

Here is the link for you - cod 5.1


http://md4u.ru/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=8011&start=700


Last cod with VCO 5_01

http://md4u.ru/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=8011&start=825

Вот ссылка

thank you but your info is not for me. i covered over all tesoro's schematics making GMT King Cobra.
King Cobra has two tones, notch filter, blank depth, while modern Vaqu and Cibo have nothing of that.

The degradation.

[kt315]

Do you think this design will not work better than TGSL ?

sorry, do not have relation with alien project. you have to ask Ivconic directly, he is author of TGSL.

And what do you think of the KPOT3 project which seems easyer to build ? The videos i've seen on this model are impressives !!

KROT3 is not mine project, have not relation with aliens projects.
yes, i give information on all russian projects I see of but this is only because nobody from russians wish to tell
about them, their english is somewhere under zero level.
it is real shame on them.