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    I am currently playing around with this idea for improving depth and efficiency of metal detectors i have built one for my 60khz diablo and shows promise the idea would probably work for pulse induction designs as well
    this idea is just something i came across in my other interest free energy devices.
    and is very simple for VLF - two transmit coils phase connected the same way stacked one on the other is supposed to amplify the magnetic field and there is no reason you can not stack 3 or 4 for the same effect something worth experimenting with.
    this is a patent explaining it.

    US4806834.pdf

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    and a little trick i use to balance my coils is null as close to what you need then use a small ferrite fragment moved around to do the final tuning point then glue it down works for me.

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    Unfortunately the US Patent Office is notorious for granting patents for inventions that don't actually work, and this is one of them. If you want to increase the magnetic flux you have to increase the current and/or the number of turns of wire. No amount of 'mirror image' winding or other gimmicks will do this. (Also much of the language in the patent is simply nonsense.) Sorry.

    Gwil

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    • #3
      as i said it is experimental this same principle is used on a lot of other devices as well, and something most people don't know about patent office they have thousands of patents that do work shelved so we don't get to use them. the patent office is what they call a
      honey trap so if you have something good that works in your pursuit of money they get to confiscate it specially if it is energy related.

      http://www.theorionproject.org/suppressed.html

      http://panacea-bocaf.org/energysuppression.htm

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      • #4
        Originally posted by dom44 View Post
        as i said it is experimental this same principle is used on a lot of other devices as well, and something most people don't know about patent office they have thousands of patents that do work shelved so we don't get to use them. the patent office is what they call a
        honey trap so if you have something good that works in your pursuit of money they get to confiscate it specially if it is energy related.

        http://www.theorionproject.org/suppressed.html

        http://panacea-bocaf.org/energysuppression.htm

        I bet all these conspirators live on oak island building free energy power plants paid for with the lost German gold train. I might be wrong.


        I suspect one large coil would be better than two stacked coils but feel free to experiment and post your findings. There are some two transmit coil designs explained in the data sections of this website with their advantages and disadvantages.

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        • #5
          I'm all in favour of experimenting, but I have to say that if that patent is correct then all the textbooks are wrong. That's always possible but I'm fairly sure that if they were people would have noticed by now.

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          • #6
            I see a lot of "it is believed..." in the patent. That is, they don't know what they are doing.

            At about the same time ('89-90) I was hand-winding tiny toroid RF transformers to use for driving my ADC designs. I was doing exactly the same thing shown in Fig 1 & 2; the center tap was my drive voltage and the outer taps were grounded. The secondary was a grounded center-tap differential winding. The purpose of winding the primary that way was not to produce any magic effect; magnetically, it did not perform any better than a single winding. Rather, I was trying to achieve a perfect symmetry with the signals to minimize parasitic coupling. The transformer was used to do a single-ended to differential conversion at up to 100s of MHz for characterizing ADC performance, so I wanted perfect signal balance.

            So I have direct experience with this method, and I recall nothing at all that supports the benefits claimed by the patent.

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            • #7
              my thoughts on the patent office is they publish the more out there patents so free energy devices lose credibility the working ones get crushed and shelved there are quite a few devices that have shown in the lab over unity in other words more energy out than in
              they do exist and its not magic there is an energy field all around us its just tapping into it.
              as for the multiple coil arrangement you don't necessarily have to amplify the field just focus it better to get more depth in the case of the MD20 pin pointer they use a copper ring near the coil to focus the field i know it works i have build quite a few versions of that detector.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by dom44 View Post
                my thoughts on the patent office is they publish the more out there patents so free energy devices lose credibility the working ones get crushed and shelved there are quite a few devices that have shown in the lab over unity in other words more energy out than in
                they do exist and its not magic there is an energy field all around us its just tapping into it.
                So the conspiracy theorists would have you believe.
                The reality is much more mundane than that.

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                • #9
                  as for conspiracy's i don't know about you but I live in Australia and have lived for 57 years now and all i can say our human rights have all but disappeared here the latest law to come in is the police can shoot you dead because they believe you to be a terrorist heaven forbid you should walk down the street with a parcel you just picked up, you could be suspected of carrying a bomb and find yourself dead.

                  oooh but hang on that's just a conspiracy theory isn't it conspiracy theory is the JFK magic bullet covers all contingency that go against the system even turns corners and comes back and airplane fuel can melt steel buildings that stuff must be over unity where
                  can i get some including buildings 100 meters away
                  and no they didn't knowingly infect us all with the SV40 virus in polio vaccines that causes cancer that's a conspiracy theory as well look it up.
                  Because we all know governments have our best interest at heart because they love us so much they are all upstanding decent people who care about us and not themselves. they are very giving (specially when it comes to there own pay rises).

                  https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC452549/

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                  • #10
                    And as an additional fact about SV40 where it says inadvertently substitute intentionally one of the developers of the vaccine has spoken out that they knew what it can do and sent it out anyway with the excuse in a few years we will cure cancer so it is ok
                    I personally have had the polio vaccine at school and i am not happy would you be. My parents where none thinking people who meant well who believed what they where told. you wonder why your family and friends are dying from cancer?

                    History of SV40 Contamination of Polio Vaccines

                    The discovery of the polyomavirus SV40, as well as its introduction as a pathogen into the human population, was tied to the development and worldwide distribution of early forms of the polio vaccine (13, 95, 111, 123). Inactivated (Salk) and early live attenuated (Sabin) forms of polio vaccines were inadvertently contaminated with SV40 (95, 97, 111). In addition, different adenovirus vaccines distributed to some U.S. military personnel from 1961 to 1965 also contained SV40 (64). The viral contamination occurred because these early vaccines were prepared in primary cultures of kidney cells derived from rhesus monkeys, which are often naturally infected with SV40.

                    but you don't have to listen to me i am a conspiracy theorist (thinking person) as apposed to most nonthinking people who go with the party line

                    http://www.healthsalon.org/193/sv40-virus/

                    naaa this **** can't be true can it .............well wasn't in the news or on tv so its safe you don't have to believe it...

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                    • #11
                      This entire thread belongs in the lrl forum or trash bin.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by rickb View Post
                        This entire thread belongs in the lrl forum or trash bin.
                        The title of this thread is "New coil design idea", not "Over-unity", or "The Latest Conspiracy Theories".

                        Geotech is not the place to discuss these subjects. There are plenty of other sites that welcome that sort of nonsense.

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