Tarsacci MDT 8000 Metal Detector

[Mark-VA]

Is there really an advanced machine with the Tarsacci MDT 8000 Metal Detector?
Or is there just a lot usual bull?
Can't possibly be as good as the White's TDI or can it?
Has anyone analyzed the patent?

[Carl-NC]

AFAIK, Tarsacci is a different approach than anyone else is doing. It is a VLF that uses true time domain processing; that is, looking at the exponential curvatures. Read the patent, it's interesting.

[Skippy]

Curious question. To anyone else asking such a question, I woul refer them to Tom Dankowski's forum, where there's several users, including Tom himself. But as you're a regular there, and must have seen all the threads ( and on DetectorProspector forum too ) , I'm not sure what you're expecting to find here.
Here are a couple of prior discussions about this machine:
https://www.geotech1.com/forums/foru...ghts-analysis=
https://www.geotech1.com/forums/foru...metal-detector

[Mark-VA]

Sometimes I have a hard time determining what is hype, bull and truth when it comes to these new detector releases. One person stated it was better than the Equinox and another the opposite. I've read a lot about this machine on the Dankowski site but I tend to believe more of what I read here.

[Carl-NC]

I recently bought one but I have yet to even turn it on. I'm sure it's like any detector, if you learn it well it will do well.

[eclipse]

It's a bit weird to compare VLF/MDT/ with a PI /TDI/ machine.

[Skippy]

eclipse : Mark owns a Whites TDI, which is presumably why he suggested it for comparison.
But it would be more relevant to compare it to other VLF's , particularly current simultaneous multi-freq machines ( Deus2 / Equinox / Manticore / Legend etc ) , and to a lesser extent selectable single-freq machines ( Deus1 / Impact / Multi-Kruzer etc ). And as the MDT's operating technique has been likened to "single-frequency BBS" ,there is some relevance in comparing it to the Sovereign thru CTX3030.
I personally think comparisons to the Equinox 800 / 900 would be the most relevant.

The MDT's primary aim is to deal with strong ground, salt-water beach, and combinations of those two. It's telling that most of the people who use and recommend it are "red dirt" hunters, with a few beach hunters.
The usefully wide range of 'fundamental' operating frequencies you can select, to tailor the machine to what you want to emphasise & supress, would be a secondary feature.

[Mark-VA]

I actually have 3 machines all are over 5 years old with the TDI being 10 years. Since retiring last year I doubt buying a new machine will ever happen, regardless of what it can do. Fixed income is exactly that, fixed. Now that is OK, we all can live on less and still be happy as long as needs are met.
Equinox 800, primary machine, daily hunting old schools and home sites.
TDI SL, primary used at the really old locations where coal was burnt for a heat source then discarded on the grounds. This is a fantastic relic machine, remember no ID screen to gaze at, just 2 tones. I have dense red dirt areas and the coal waste which requires a PI to find anything deeper than 3-4" with a good ID.
Pro Arc (The F75 LTD with a different face plate). Side by side test indicate the depth between the Equinox and F75 are almost identical. But ID is more stable with the Equinox and that is why it's my main machine where there an overabundance of pull tabs.

[eclipse]

You got me there, I have no info about the MDT, though it sounds great.
I have mostly PI's: AQ, TDI SL, SD2100+2200, GP3500 ... but also Deus 1. It just doesn't seems right to compare it vs PI.
I may look into obtaining one second hand if the price is right.

[kt315]

I recently bought one but I have yet to even turn it on. I'm sure it's like any detector, if you learn it well it will do well.

i read a text in russian... it is VLF one with fixed frequencies, on owner choice. also, a sound is some kinda compressed. so faint
signal of small target must be like from big. so much promises from this bulgarian guy, like always...
a battle with ML will be ahead, i wait.

[Mark-VA]

I'm excited to hear what Carl has to say about the detector.

[Mark-VA]

I would really be interested in a comparison between the Taracci and the White's TDI SL since it's been stated, "the Taracci is close to a PI with discrimination"

[Orbit]

I would really be interested in a comparison between the Taracci and the White's TDI SL since it's been stated, "the Taracci is close to a PI with discrimination"

If Trscci use DD and it is VLF, then it has nothing to do with discrimination similar to TDI Whites ..In fact, even for example gpx or sd 2200 with DD has no similarity with Whites TDI as far as discrimination is concerned ! With DD, whether it is a VLF or a pulse device, both mask the object if there is iron above it unlike TDI .Tdi can find a coin under a nail or some piece of iron.

[Skippy]

Quote:".... since it's been stated, "the Tarsacci is close to a PI with discrimination" "
Whos said that, and where? In what context .. nugget hunting? jewellery hunting on a salt beach? Do you have a link to the source of the quote?

Maybe the originator said it was "close to a PI" based on the depths it obtained, rather than any other aspect of its behaviour.
As you have an Equinox 800 in your arsenal, THAT is the machine you should realistically be making comparisons too - a simultaneous multi-frequency VLF machine with a DD search-coil.

[Mark-VA]

I know it's not a true PI. I have the TDI SL and the Equinox, just trying to sort out the truth and whether it would help with my hunting sites.


Quote from Tom Dankowski site:

"All joking aside a Tarsacci would probably open your eyes in that smelt once you dialed it in.its the closest thing to a discriminating P.I. type performance we have.It's a true bridge machine."