There is only one detector better than Deus - it is Deus with larger coil!

[ivconic]

[tragac]

With V4 on some forums some people have mentioned that also would be new color display on remote controller.....any news about this

about changing battery on coil , what do you think about this kit --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mk5bPUp8r_s

any predictions about new MF coil , any advantage vs existing .........

[ivconic]

With V4 on some forums some people have mentioned that also would be new color display on remote controller.....any news about this

about changing battery on coil , what do you think about this kit --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mk5bPUp8r_s

any predictions about new MF coil , any advantage vs existing .........

Yes that's the regular XP kit. I am using only such kind for replacing batteries.
It can be obtained at local XP distributor.

"... any predictions about new MF coil , any advantage vs existing ..."

No, i can't tell nothing yet, don't know details.

[ivconic]

In the mist...

[tragac]

still nothing about V4 it was for lasr summer now it is announced for late this summer and can be for next .....

[ivconic]

still nothing about V4 it was for lasr summer now it is announced for late this summer and can be for next .....

Obviously something went wrong with it.

[Orbit]

When understood in plastic expert the plastic mass claims that that Xp detectors used Chinese !
I fall into reflection to a Chinese company true detectors according to the requirements
from France ?!Therefore, the cable shoddy all copy the Chinese other than plastic missing component !

[gotliebe]

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[ivconic]

When understood in plastic expert the plastic mass claims that that Xp detectors used Chinese !
I fall into reflection to a Chinese company true detectors according to the requirements
from France ?!Therefore, the cable shoddy all copy the Chinese other than plastic missing component !

I think i understand your point; yes some of the parts for some XP models are made from awfully low quality materials.
For example; coil cables for newer Gold Max Power, Gmaxx II and ADX are really bad!
After the first thrill and enthusiasm upon XP appearance, now after several years; i could have few very serious remarks on their account.
Mentioned cables do appears as very high quality on first and skim look.
But as local amateur servicer (in time people used to send me detectors on services) in last few years i collected lot of experiences and now i can freely say: those cables sucks!
Very often case is situation when cable breaks somewhere close to coil or close to connector (most bending areas) and that detectors behave erratic or are completely out of function.
It is very difficult to service those, there is no adequate cable in local shops and also no such connectors too.
Connector at those coils is ugly story on it's own!
It is molded and not possible to open it. Once it was broken; it can only be tossed in garbage.
In such cases customer must look for some solution.
Only one solution so far is to contact local supplier (if any in the area) and order new "set", consisting of new cable with new connector (also molded on it) with few additional plastic parts for servicing.
Original old cable must be cut off as close as possible to coil, wires soldered properly and all that covered with plastic cap and filled with epoxy.
It is expensive, time demanding and nerving! It takes long time to obtain such set.
And there is no way to find another at least decent solution.
Only way i can think on is to find any similar proper cable and use standard 5-pins connectors (as on Minelabs, Fishers...).
But than also connector on enclosure must be changed too. And logically; user can not use other coils without changing connectors on them too!
Lot of unnecessarily complications! Why? Was it so hard to use standard connectors at the beginning?
Most of XP coils are having only 2 coaxials, meaning 4 "wires"... any 4-pins or 5-pins connector will perfectly do the job.
Was it hard to use high quality silicone coated cable? Same as on Tesoro models.
Tesoro cables are perfect, eternal, impossible to break! No wonder why they are giving lifetime warranty.
Next huge remark is on very funny and stupid way of mounting enclosure to stem. Absolutely unnecessarily complicated! And very weak "point" in whole design.
And i can name maybe few more minor remarks too.
XP Deus is quite different story.
No problems with cables and connectors, simply because there are no cables and connectors. Very "smooth" and good move! Perfect!
So far and still Deus is probably the very best "buy" on market.
I am having it for 4 years and it is still in perfect shape.
No remarks on it.

[Funfinder]

The question meanwhile after 4 years is:

How powerful still is the LiPo accu of the smaller or larger coil
and or have you been able (for others it might be a real problem) to replace it?

My personal opinion: the current (and therefore search-time) meanwhile has been reduced by 40-50%
because this thing is self-depleting all the time.

And how is it about the detectors electronic unit? Afaik it also contains some hard exchangeable accu.

What do we learn from this:
Never buy a detector with very hard to get and replaceable LiPo-batteries because
after some years it could become completely useless!

Best detector? Perhaps for concealed inbuilt battery replacing professionals only.

[ivconic]

The question meanwhile after 4 years is:

How powerful still is the LiPo accu of the smaller or larger coil
and or have you been able (for others it might be a real problem) to replace it?

My personal opinion: the current (and therefore search-time) meanwhile has been reduced by 40-50%
because this thing is self-depleting all the time.

And how is it about the detectors electronic unit? Afaik it also contains some hard exchangeable accu.

What do we learn from this:
Never buy a detector with very hard to get and replaceable LiPo-batteries because
after some years it could become completely useless!

Best detector? Perhaps for concealed inbuilt battery replacing professionals only.

Seems you are not following some already posted and explained things here on these forums... or you keep forgetting all the time.
My batteries, at my two coils; are still in perfect shape, after 4 years and so.
But also i have been replaced batteries for other people at their coils, for several times so far.
Nothing is easier. Very simple and fast operation.
Yet one small "problem" still exist; obtaining original battery replacement set is sometimes a bit time consuming.
It takes several days to obtain set from supplier.
That's why i searched for faster solution, some batteries for lately popular quadcopters&drones are 100% suitable, and cheaper from originals.
So; there is no actually a problem with Deus batteries at all.

[ivconic]

[Funfinder]

As long as you and the XP company still exists everything
will be fine for the Deus users!

Really, you do a great job here and I'm glad if
the original accus lasts more than 3-4 years.
Perhaps 2-3 years more. Interesting pix.


But the best solution would be Li-Po cells in
all kind of sizes which can be inserted into
devices like those for ultra-bright LED-lamps.

Very simple, no soldering and as if these would be normal batteries.

[ivconic]

As long as you and the XP company still exists everything
will be fine for the Deus users!

Really, you do a great job here and I'm glad if
the original accus lasts more than 3-4 years.
Perhaps 2-3 years more. Interesting pix.


But the best solution would be Li-Po cells in
all kind of sizes which can be inserted into
devices like those for ultra-bright LED-lamps.

Very simple, no soldering and as if these would be normal batteries.

Deus coil is having pretty limited space for larger batteries.
Yet i founded two LiPo battery models designed and sold for drones to fit perfectly into Deus coil.
This is the "problem" for each 4 to 5 years to solve... not a big deal.
...
Battery is not soldered inside, it has standard plastic connector.
All you have to do is to open small compartment and replace battery.
Later use silicone to glue cover and that's about all.
Than after 4 to 5 years do that again...

[ivconic]

Still no news from XP???
We all are restless to see new firmware update for XP Deus.
Yet... still silence from them?
...
I am really in doubts about whether or not to post this in public... but certain amount of time has passed since i heard the rumor, so i reckon; now after several months: this can not nor should not make troubles to anybody.
So... what i heard is that there was a fire in XP factory and 10 000 units were destroyed on the place!!!
Was it true or not; i can't say.
I just heard that from a source.
And i suppose that was the reason for such long delay.
It happened several months ago. I didn't told this to anybody since now.
Are there any additional infos?
...
I am still keeping and using my XP Deus. It is in perfect shape.
Except from the charging clippers which i changed few times so far.
Those are easy breakable.
Everything else on it is flawless.
I am still standing behind the title of this topic, 100%.
Cheers!