There is only one detector better than Deus - it is Deus with larger coil!

[ivconic]

But!
There is something i forgot to tell.
Later on, years later, ORX appeared on market.
Cheaper, more affordable.
So several people from my place obtained it.
All came with white coils.
On the sites, working along with those people, exchanging machines for few hours to test them; i noticed that same white coil is not that impressive with ORX.
I don't know why is that.

[eclipse]

Bought the Deus 2 and took it for a spin. Not very happy about it the first day. Very chattery and every now and then showed 31 on the screen briefly. Its not a dig signal but made me go recheck. Discrimination wise i did dig ferrous rusty junk so.. i dont know if its an upgrade at the moment.

[ivconic]

Bought the Deus 2 and took it for a spin. Not very happy about it the first day. Very chattery and every now and then showed 31 on the screen briefly. Its not a dig signal but made me go recheck. Discrimination wise i did dig ferrous rusty junk so.. i dont know if its an upgrade at the moment.

Give it a time.
It reminds me on myself and first few days with Deus 1.
The devil is in details!

[ionut_mtb]

Bought the Deus 2 and took it for a spin. Not very happy about it the first day. Very chattery and every now and then showed 31 on the screen briefly. Its not a dig signal but made me go recheck. Discrimination wise i did dig ferrous rusty junk so.. i dont know if its an upgrade at the moment.

Deus 2 need more tests until will find the right software version.
You can lower sensitivity, change frequency to make it more silent. I like to use disc -6.4 to listen everything in the ground. Like that you can easily find sites. Big ferrous targets give unstable tone id and cracky sound when you draw the coil over the target. Iron rings may trick you. XY screen can help also. Coins will give clear signals in any position.

[eclipse]

What I didn't like is the "chattery" situation. I've tried Deus Fast, Generic and Sensitive programs. The terrain wasn't light but wasn't hot too. I will try lighter terrain next time perhaps. I really hate to reduce the Sensitivity. Terrains have been searched before and I wanted to have an edge over previous guys, you know Multi Freq all that stuff. I will try different terrain next time, perhaps a little bit more light without too much stones and ceramic.

Keep in mind that in YT videos you see comparisons between Nox 800 vs Deus 2 for example. And things look too much scientific. You have a clean terrain and one target and you know where the target is. In real life you are fighting with hot rocks every now and then, small pieces of iron, hits of the search coil in stones and you don't know the target position so it's a lot different.

[eclipse]

Yesterday I've used the Deus II for few more hours. Like previously stated it's very chattery and unstable on ground, with unstable target numbers as well. I did manage to recover some ultra small coins but I'm not liking this machine very much at the moment I hate I sold the previous Deus I. I think they overlooked the problem with stability on soil and rushed to kick off the product, "will fix via software update if we have customer complaints" type deal.

[ivconic]

Yesterday I've used the Deus II for few more hours. Like previously stated it's very chattery and unstable on ground, with unstable target numbers as well. I did manage to recover some ultra small coins but I'm not liking this machine very much at the moment I hate I sold the previous Deus I. I think they overlooked the problem with stability on soil and rushed to kick off the product, "will fix via software update if we have customer complaints" type deal.

That's strange!?
There is always a chance that you got a bad luck and faulty device from a start. More likely bad coil then bad remote.
I saw only few similar cases so far with brand new coils for Deus 1. They came faulty from the manufacturer.
For example; one coil that i freshly recall; worked but remote not giving VDI numbers at all and Disc wasn't accurate.
Later i checked and found out it was all about the coil. Remote was alright.
So customer complained and seller replaced the coil in short period of time.
It is hard to imagine, after all those "fuzz" in public in announcing it, several monhts ago; that they really released bad devices and coils, personally i doubt that.
Contact seller and complain.

[eclipse]

Here the XP official distributor is highly unreliable. Shortly after I bought the Deus 1, the display started showing errors and such. Contacted the distributor and I got shi***load of shouting that I've damaged the remote. Without even he knowing the condition of the device, which was perfect ofcourse. Tried to take cash for the repair. Didn't get anything and I got it serviced for free and lame excuse when I got back that the device in deed was in perfect condition and wasn't my fault the display went wrong. I may end up just getting rid of it and get some other brand. I like the wireless feature but I don't like the rest. The problem is the video reviews of the device are not real condition. In real condition you have roman ceramic, mineralized stones and stuff, rusty chucks of metal. Discrimination & stability in soil DOES NOT SHINE so far, and keep in mind I've used the previous Deus for some time so I'm aware how to operate those...

[ivconic]

Here the XP official distributor is highly unreliable. Shortly after I bought the Deus 1, the display started showing errors and such. Contacted the distributor and I got shi***load of shouting that I've damaged the remote. Without even he knowing the condition of the device, which was perfect ofcourse. Tried to take cash for the repair. Didn't get anything and I got it serviced for free and lame excuse when I got back that the device in deed was in perfect condition and wasn't my fault the display went wrong. I may end up just getting rid of it and get some other brand. I like the wireless feature but I don't like the rest. The problem is the video reviews of the device are not real condition. In real condition you have roman ceramic, mineralized stones and stuff, rusty chucks of metal. Discrimination & stability in soil DOES NOT SHINE so far, and keep in mind I've used the previous Deus for some time so I'm aware how to operate those...

Oh that's bad!
You should contact the XP directly, their customer service and tell them all about your troubles with the distributor.
In the past Alain Loube was available to contact with, today i don't know. But i am sure they will do something about.
In Serbia we have one distributor, splendid and fair guy, always available for customers.
From some previous experiences i know for sure that they in XP will do something about and see what is all about, you just need to contact them.
I am so curious about real live experience with the Deus II. But present situation in world and its nominal price will delay much a chance me to see it in alive.
1600e became HUGE sum for me lately. Impossible to collect and spend on a "toy", because there are so more serious and urgent things to solve with a money.
So, i will have to wait. And there is a chance that i will never be in position to see it live.
...
Yes, what you see on Youtube is pretty far from the reality we have in our local sites. That's why is important to have it and test it on your own.

[eclipse]

I suspect the answer will be "switch to single frequency mode on highly mineralized ground". Thing is 99% of the suites have some type of soil disturbance such as mineralization or ferrous particles and the thing is I didn't spend 1600 Euro, as you say price is high, to work in single freq. mode. I really hate I sold the previous Deus.

[ivconic]

I suspect the answer will be "switch to single frequency mode on highly mineralized ground". Thing is 99% of the suites have some type of soil disturbance such as mineralization or ferrous particles and the thing is I didn't spend 1600 Euro, as you say price is high, to work in single freq. mode. I really hate I sold the previous Deus.

That's why i am keeping my Deus for 10 years. Without slightest intention to ever sell it.
I had many splendid models and in time sold them. Than i regret much.
So i decided to keep one for a change.
...
Well, if you are right and it is all because you are trying to work in multi-f mode on "our" soils here (same soils, Serbia and Bulgaria); then it is not suitable and not interesting for us here at all.
I would really like to know how this case will end up.

[ivconic]

As time goes on; I get more and more reports from all sides about Deus 2.
Unfortunately, none of them are positive.
There seems to be something seriously wrong with Deus 2.
And it doesn't just seem to be about the firmware.
People complain that it is unstable in behavior. But there are cases when it doesn't work exactly, that VDI makes a lot of mistakes.
There are also a couple of cases where the machine "freezes" at the moment. There are bugs.
There is also one case that the connection between the coil and the machine is often broken and lost.
I don't know what this is about !?
But I'm certainly very disappointed because I didn't expect that from XP, especially after 10 years of experience with Deus 1.
One thing I am sure of; I will not waste my hard earned money so easily by buying Deus 2.
I'll wait to see what happens. Will XP come out with an official announcement and explanation.
And whether they will find out what the problem is and solve it.

[eclipse]

A buddy of mine just sold his Deus II and bought Deus I /again/. Unstable behavior, wrong VDI numbers, loss of depth. Just confirmed his complaints.
XP didn't really do a great job after 10 years they've taken a successful detector, turned it to basically junk device and doubled the price.
Good luck to XP with customer support & complaints. I've not decided to upgrade to Deus I or just pick another brand. I guess I'm keeping fingers crossed they will push an update and fix the damn device.

[ivconic]

Finally, after 10 years (and a few months more); I decided to replace the batteries on the Deus, on the remote and on the coil.
This is the first time (I know it sounds unbelievable, when it comes to me) that I opened my remote and coil!
Because... in the meantime, I changed the batteries for others, so I've already seen the inside, that's the only reason.
The batteries were supplied to me by a friend on Aliexpress. At a good price.
The "original" replacement set is 50e !!! For one battery!!! So that's the main reason I've been putting this off.
Such prices are an insult to intelligence.
And these batteries from Ali are 10x cheaper.
The original batteries didn't completely fail, they could still be used, so I put them aside and will keep them.






When I opened the coil to take out the old battery, I smelled a characteristic smell, the kind Lipo batteries emit when the casing is punctured or cut.
And it seems to me that that battery is very slightly inflated. In the end; it also showed a decrease in capacity, while the battery in the remote still did not.
Still... 10 full years! A rare case indeed.
I think the main "formula for success" is that I never put away the detector and the coil without first putting both on the charger and charging the batteries to the end.
Always after returning from the field.
And when I don't often go to the field, I regularly recharge the batteries every 20 days.
This type of Lipo battery seems to require constant attention and "tension".
Another possible reason may be that Deus does not "pull" the current suddenly, but consumes it constantly and evenly at the same pace.
And there is one more thing, never in these 10 years have I changed the TX power. It is always at the default value.
These are all just assumptions, maybe not all of them are true. But it is worth mentioning.

[ivconic]

Powerful modern Android and iOS "smartphones" are known to be extreme consumers of electricity.
Especially when using strong resources (playing games with good graphics and extreme sound), when using GPS service, BT and WiFi, etc.
Or when the network signal is weak and the phone constantly searches for a signal...
Or when the display is with high resolution and many colors. Some types of displays consumes much more than others.
And as such, phones are "extreme" consumers, which may draw a lot of current at the moment.
Such "erratic" behavior affects battery life.
The paradox is the following: in the past, phones were much weaker and consumed electricity more moderately, and then everyone had a
back cover and an easily accessible replaceable battery.
Nowadays, phones are extreme current consumers... and there are almost no models on the market where the battery can be easily reached,
they are all closed, without a back cover and the battery is deeply "trapped" inside.
To replace such a battery, you need to go to a service center and pay a decent amount!
Very rarely does anyone decide to do something like that. Mainly when the battery gets weak; the owner changes the phone.
There is also a marketing trick, exchanging "old for new" with an insignificant discount when buying a new one.
What does this all look like to you? What does this all boil down to?
The questions are rhetorical. I will not give my answers and opinions.
Because they are so radical that I would provoke the administrators to warn me and delete my posts.
But my views are known from before.
There is a simple method of fighting against what is happening in the world in terms of "consumer mania" and the totally incorrect
behavior of companies and traders towards customers.
I simply refuse to participate in it! And I'm always looking for an alternative solution.
I will not buy "new" as long as the "old" serves me well. And when it stops; I will think carefully about whether I really need a "new" one.
I refuse to be cattle in a consumer stampede.
And in that way I to finance idlers and worthless characters in power.
Who all work for the military industrial complexes and various "shadow governments", "deep states" and similar reptiles.
And in this way I oppose them. They will never see my money. And I will try to bother them and cause damage to them as much and as often as possible.
Whoever thinks that I am writing nonsense here ... just remember the current state of the world. And let him think of what is yet to come this winter...
We slept too long. It's time for a cold shower and a sudden awakening.
Until is too late.