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    Hi all,


    As some of you know, I have been setting up some equipment to


    measure the T1and T2 times for some common liquids. They are both


    easy to measure if you have a large sensor with lots of turns.


    Anyway ... my results so far. For T2


    distilled, de-oxygenated water 2.5 seconds


    tap water 1.43 seconds


    kerosene 1.06 seconds


    T1 is harder to measure accurately and I only have the figure


    for kerosene - it is close to 1 second (+/- 10% or so).


    I post this because the time for kerosene is twice what I


    expected it to be. In the literature, I have always seen a figure


    of about 1/2 second. I measure twice that!


    My measurements will continue - I'm going to try diesel fuel


    which ought to be similar to kerosene since it is mostly kerosene.


    I'll try any liqid anyone would like to suggest - the caveat is that


    it shouldn't dissolve PVC since that is what my form is constructed


    from.


    By the way, I now have some nice digital recordings (.WAV files)


    for the proton signal here. If anyone would like to hear one, send


    me some mail and I'll send one to you attached to Email. The file


    is rather large to send 'attach'd to this mail which goes to this


    whole list.


    Jim

  • #2
    RE: T1 and T2 measurements

    Jim:


    I'd love to hear what you've got.


    Please send the wav files.


    Thanks,


    Keith


    -----Original Message-----


    From: Diamond Jim [mailto:[email protected]]


    Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 6:19 PM


    To: The Proton Mag Forum


    Subject: T1 and T2 measurements


    Hi all,


    As some of you know, I have been setting up some equipment to


    measure the T1and T2 times for some common liquids. They are both


    easy to measure if you have a large sensor with lots of turns.


    Anyway ... my results so far. For T2


    distilled, de-oxygenated water 2.5 seconds


    tap water 1.43 seconds


    kerosene 1.06 seconds


    T1 is harder to measure accurately and I only have the figure


    for kerosene - it is close to 1 second (+/- 10% or so).


    I post this because the time for kerosene is twice what I


    expected it to be. In the literature, I have always seen a figure


    of about 1/2 second. I measure twice that!


    My measurements will continue - I'm going to try diesel fuel


    which ought to be similar to kerosene since it is mostly kerosene.


    I'll try any liqid anyone would like to suggest - the caveat is


    that it shouldn't dissolve PVC since that is what my form is


    constructed from.


    By the way, I now have some nice digital recordings (.WAV


    files) for the proton signal here. If anyone would like to hear


    one, send me some mail and I'll send one to you attached to Email.


    The file is rather large to send 'attach'd to this mail which


    goes to this whole list.


    Jim

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    • #3
      Re: T1 and T2 measurements

      ----- Original Message -----


      From: Keith Barr


      To: 'The Proton Mag Forum'


      Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2001 12:18 PM


      Subject: RE: T1 and T2 measurements


      Jim:


      I'd love to hear what you've got.


      Please send the wav files.


      Thanks,


      Keith


      -----Original Message-----


      From: Diamond Jim [mailto:[email protected]]


      Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 6:19 PM


      To: The Proton Mag Forum


      Subject: T1 and T2 measurements


      Hi all,


      As some of you know, I have been setting up some equipment


      to measure the T1and T2 times for some common liquids. They are


      both easy to measure if you have a large sensor with lots of


      turns.


      Anyway ... my results so far. For T2


      distilled, de-oxygenated water 2.5 seconds


      tap water 1.43 seconds


      kerosene 1.06 seconds


      T1 is harder to measure accurately and I only have the


      figure for kerosene - it is close to 1 second (+/- 10% or so).


      I post this because the time for kerosene is twice what I


      expected it to be. In the literature, I have always seen a


      figure of about 1/2 second. I measure twice that!


      My measurements will continue - I'm going to try diesel fuel


      which ought to be similar to kerosene since it is mostly


      kerosene. I'll try any liqid anyone would like to suggest - the


      caveat is that it shouldn't dissolve PVC since that is what my


      form is constructed from.


      By the way, I now have some nice digital recordings (.WAV


      files) for the proton signal here. If anyone would like to hear


      one, send me some mail and I'll send one to you attached to


      Email. The file is rather large to send 'attach'd to this mail


      which goes to this whole list.


      Jim

      Comment


      • #4
        RE: T1 and T2 measurements

        Jim:


        I'm just starting to think about building a Proton Mag. I would like


        any T1 T2 times you have. What sample gives the best SNR?


        Please send me the wav files. I'd love to listen. This is all new to


        me.


        Frank


        -----Original Message-----


        From: Diamond Jim [mailto:[email protected]]


        Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 9:19 PM


        To: The Proton Mag Forum


        Subject: T1 and T2 measurements


        Hi all,


        As some of you know, I have been setting up some equipment to


        measure the T1and T2 times for some common liquids. They are both


        easy to measure if you have a large sensor with lots of turns.


        Anyway ... my results so far. For T2


        distilled, de-oxygenated water 2.5 seconds


        tap water 1.43 seconds


        kerosene 1.06 seconds


        T1 is harder to measure accurately and I only have the figure


        for kerosene - it is close to 1 second (+/- 10% or so).


        I post this because the time for kerosene is twice what I


        expected it to be. In the literature, I have always seen a figure


        of about 1/2 second. I measure twice that!


        My measurements will continue - I'm going to try diesel fuel


        which ought to be similar to kerosene since it is mostly kerosene.


        I'll try any liqid anyone would like to suggest - the caveat is


        that it shouldn't dissolve PVC since that is what my form is


        constructed from.


        By the way, I now have some nice digital recordings (.WAV


        files) for the proton signal here. If anyone would like to hear


        one, send me some mail and I'll send one to you attached to Email.


        The file is rather large to send 'attach'd to this mail which


        goes to this whole list.


        Jim

        Comment


        • #5
          Re: T1 and T2 measurements

          I'd be interested in the wav files too. Currently building a soil resistivity


          meter - then onto a Proton Mag... (Not for work, btw)


          Regards,


          //Lee


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          proton signal here. If anyone would like to hear one, send me some mail and


          I'll send one to you attached to Email. The file is rather large to send


          'attach'd to this mail which goes to this whole list.


          Jim


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