Weighing homebrew toroids

[rick]

no me no try to be funny---

tried responce 1st,2nd,3rd times and got an error

msg. each time--"can not spawn child" or something

like that---guess it took it though...

>oh-so its just that someone decided to call it the same name---why did they (whoever)not coin another

>word to call it so as to minimize any......

>

>>>hi guys--

>>>curious---

>>>about 35 years ago--made that which was called,in

>>>the day,an electroscope----you know the foil

>>>leaves attraction/repulsion stuff---electrostatic

>>>electrophorus etc...

>>>the only real world practical use of such (recentish)

>>>was/is in my later years of life learned---is that

>>>called a dosameter---you charge the thing--measure

>>>angle of deflection--drop in a radioactive suspected

>>>substance---then time/loss of charge (think it had

>>>to be positively charged) gave a semi-qualitive

>>>quantitive indication of activity...

>>>my question is--how is the electroscope of then

>>>related to the electroscope of today (so-called)..

>>REPLY by DELL:

>>No Relationship whatsoever!

[audigger53]

Re: electroscope

Like any other sales gimiac, give something a name that sounds like something you know of in your hindbrain, so it comes across as more believible to customers. I'm surprised no one beat on Thomas for name copyright. The people that use them either swear by them or at them. No middle ground. I have no real opinion for them. The only time I saw one used, I was not impressed. My own magic widget was better to me. Regards Marc

>no me no try to be funny---

>tried responce 1st,2nd,3rd times and got an error

>msg. each time--"can not spawn child" or something

>like that---guess it took it though...

>

>>oh-so its just that someone decided to call it the same name---why did they (whoever)not coin another

>>word to call it so as to minimize any......

>>

>>>>hi guys--

>>>>curious---

>>>>about 35 years ago--made that which was called,in

>>>>the day,an electroscope----you know the foil

>>>>leaves attraction/repulsion stuff---electrostatic

>>>>electrophorus etc...

>>>>the only real world practical use of such (recentish)

>>>>was/is in my later years of life learned---is that

>>>>called a dosameter---you charge the thing--measure

>>>>angle of deflection--drop in a radioactive suspected

>>>>substance---then time/loss of charge (think it had

>>>>to be positively charged) gave a semi-qualitive

>>>>quantitive indication of activity...

>>>>my question is--how is the electroscope of then

>>>>related to the electroscope of today (so-called)..

>>>REPLY by DELL:

>>>No Relationship whatsoever!

[rick]

Re: electroscope

found web site for electroscope by thomas---

not technical--just email support---

on oratron--not much on web--but do search on

usenet (www.dogpile.com) and some mention there..

>

>Like any other sales gimiac, give something a name that sounds like something you know of in your hindbrain, so it comes across as more believible to customers. I'm surprised no one beat on Thomas for name copyright. The people that use them either swear by them or at them. No middle ground. I have no real opinion for them. The only time I saw one used, I was not impressed. My own magic widget was better to me. Regards Marc

>>no me no try to be funny---

>>tried responce 1st,2nd,3rd times and got an error

>>msg. each time--"can not spawn child" or something

>>like that---guess it took it though...

>>

>>>oh-so its just that someone decided to call it the same name---why did they (whoever)not coin another

>>>word to call it so as to minimize any......

>>>

>>>>>hi guys--

>>>>>curious---

>>>>>about 35 years ago--made that which was called,in

>>>>>the day,an electroscope----you know the foil

>>>>>leaves attraction/repulsion stuff---electrostatic

>>>>>electrophorus etc...

>>>>>the only real world practical use of such (recentish)

>>>>>was/is in my later years of life learned---is that

>>>>>called a dosameter---you charge the thing--measure

>>>>>angle of deflection--drop in a radioactive suspected

>>>>>substance---then time/loss of charge (think it had

>>>>>to be positively charged) gave a semi-qualitive

>>>>>quantitive indication of activity...

>>>>>my question is--how is the electroscope of then

>>>>>related to the electroscope of today (so-called)..

>>>>REPLY by DELL:

>>>>No Relationship whatsoever!

[audigger53]

Re: electroscope

Thanks for the reply back. I guess we'll have to wait for Sam to let us know on the oratron. Doubt if it talks, orat-ron(orator electronic). Best guess blind. LOL Marc

>found web site for electroscope by thomas---

>not technical--just email support---

>on oratron--not much on web--but do search on

>usenet (www.dogpile.com) and some mention there..

>

>>

>>Like any other sales gimiac, give something a name that sounds like something you know of in your hindbrain, so it comes across as more believible to customers. I'm surprised no one beat on Thomas for name copyright. The people that use them either swear by them or at them. No middle ground. I have no real opinion for them. The only time I saw one used, I was not impressed. My own magic widget was better to me. Regards Marc

>>>no me no try to be funny---

>>>tried responce 1st,2nd,3rd times and got an error

>>>msg. each time--"can not spawn child" or something

>>>like that---guess it took it though...

>>>

>>>>oh-so its just that someone decided to call it the same name---why did they (whoever)not coin another

>>>>word to call it so as to minimize any......

>>>>

>>>>>>hi guys--

>>>>>>curious---

>>>>>>about 35 years ago--made that which was called,in

>>>>>>the day,an electroscope----you know the foil

>>>>>>leaves attraction/repulsion stuff---electrostatic

>>>>>>electrophorus etc...

>>>>>>the only real world practical use of such (recentish)

>>>>>>was/is in my later years of life learned---is that

>>>>>>called a dosameter---you charge the thing--measure

>>>>>>angle of deflection--drop in a radioactive suspected

>>>>>>substance---then time/loss of charge (think it had

>>>>>>to be positively charged) gave a semi-qualitive

>>>>>>quantitive indication of activity...

>>>>>>my question is--how is the electroscope of then

>>>>>>related to the electroscope of today (so-called)..

>>>>>REPLY by DELL:

>>>>>No Relationship whatsoever!

[John Smith]

Weighing homebrew toroids

Hi Guys,


Hopefully this summer I will finish my toroidal PPM, if the


distilled water hasn't leaked out of the ring by now - in hindsight


I should have weighed it after I wound it so that I could check for


leaks ! Its a bit late for me now, its 2 years since I wound it,


but it might help others with "fresher" toroids'.......


I reported last week a wreck might have been found here in Agulhas,


but it turns out they went away empty handed,I was really looking


forward to some excitement!


I dont know what has happened to the wreck of the Brederode which


was found here a couple of years back. It was evidently found with


mags and sidescan, and some porcelain was bought up ( and the bell )


. All very exciting for our little village.


It made local TV headlines, and the last I heard they were trying to


raise funds to do the diving.


Good hunting all


John Smith


LAgulhas


South Africa

[Electronica Aplicada]

RE: Weighing homebrew toroids

Good news!!!: I congratulate your return to this forum. Let us know


your work.


Here, a friend (Rubén Collado) found an ancient craft in Uruguay


(!00 Km. from home) 2 mts. under sand an water near the seashore.


They begin the next week the diving work.


I hope I'll begin this summer to work with my own magnetometer.


Regards.


Edgardo Maffía - Buenos Aires - Argentina


----- Original Message -----


From: John Smith


To: [email protected]


Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 6:53 AM


Subject: Weighing homebrew toroids


Hi Guys,


Hopefully this summer I will finish my toroidal PPM, if the


distilled water hasn't leaked out of the ring by now - in


hindsight I should have weighed it after I wound it so that I


could check for leaks ! Its a bit late for me now, its 2 years


since I wound it, but it might help others with "fresher"


toroids'.......


I reported last week a wreck might have been found here in


Agulhas, but it turns out they went away empty handed,I was really


looking forward to some excitement!


I dont know what has happened to the wreck of the Brederode which


was found here a couple of years back. It was evidently found with


mags and sidescan, and some porcelain was bought up ( and the bell


) . All very exciting for our little village.


It made local TV headlines, and the last I heard they were trying


to raise funds to do the diving.


Good hunting all


John Smith


LAgulhas


South Africa