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The closest that I know that ever came to this was Tesla. His boat ride around the lake. People said that he had to have hidden more batteries in the boat to make the electric motor keep running. ??? I don't know, but no one can say that Tesla was not a genius and way ahead of his time. Marc
>hi carl-
>thought it would be pertanite to show that>coming on the horizon...(since failure on>other fronts has been realized)...however,>perpetual motion machine(s) exist.GOD beat>man to the punch (so to speak)-hydrogen,an>example of the many---an atomic sized>machine---the electrons orbiting the nuclulus->motion---motion that keeps going and going...>science predicted the decay of a hydrogen>with the result (if it accured) a cone of light>(think ????cerkenoff radiation???) anyway--an>apparatus was built with thousands of photomultipliers>and a vessle of water--etc. underground salt mine>--to watch for this decay---many years ago--and>they still watch today...do decay--(spontaniaus)>a hydrogen yesteryear is same today/tomarrow...
>seems kind of funny to me that man kind has>an inclination that perpetual motion is possible->perhaps this is where this rudementary idea comes>from---but not by the hand of man.
>have not looked at this kind of stuff---free energy>and the like----until recently...too much..perhaps>again like many other things---just to sell a>newspaper or the like---to the unsuspecting...
>perhaps you and sam and evan and me start>buisness--get rich quick---me poor money...>box up hydrogen (no--explode) box up nitrogen>and sell to public a box of perpetual motion>machines.....ha ha ha...or talk science boys>make a change definition of machine and we>get nobel trophy or whatever they call it.
>reg-rick
>>I took a quick look at a couple of on-line torsion field articles. What I read was some highly contradictory statements followed by leaps into the metaphysical realm, such as "pyramid energy" and dowsing. Like most pseudoscience, it appears as if some people are taking legitimate science research (esp. leading edge and poorly understood by the public) and contorting it to support their superstitious beliefs. I'll be a bit more receptive of this kind of stuff when it starts getting published in mainstream peer-reviewed journals instead of the fringe "free energy" publications.
>>- Carl
>hi carl-
>thought it would be pertanite to show that>coming on the horizon...(since failure on>other fronts has been realized)...however,>perpetual motion machine(s) exist.GOD beat>man to the punch (so to speak)-hydrogen,an>example of the many---an atomic sized>machine---the electrons orbiting the nuclulus->motion---motion that keeps going and going...>science predicted the decay of a hydrogen>with the result (if it accured) a cone of light>(think ????cerkenoff radiation???) anyway--an>apparatus was built with thousands of photomultipliers>and a vessle of water--etc. underground salt mine>--to watch for this decay---many years ago--and>they still watch today...do decay--(spontaniaus)>a hydrogen yesteryear is same today/tomarrow...
>seems kind of funny to me that man kind has>an inclination that perpetual motion is possible->perhaps this is where this rudementary idea comes>from---but not by the hand of man.
>have not looked at this kind of stuff---free energy>and the like----until recently...too much..perhaps>again like many other things---just to sell a>newspaper or the like---to the unsuspecting...
>perhaps you and sam and evan and me start>buisness--get rich quick---me poor money...>box up hydrogen (no--explode) box up nitrogen>and sell to public a box of perpetual motion>machines.....ha ha ha...or talk science boys>make a change definition of machine and we>get nobel trophy or whatever they call it.
>reg-rick
>>I took a quick look at a couple of on-line torsion field articles. What I read was some highly contradictory statements followed by leaps into the metaphysical realm, such as "pyramid energy" and dowsing. Like most pseudoscience, it appears as if some people are taking legitimate science research (esp. leading edge and poorly understood by the public) and contorting it to support their superstitious beliefs. I'll be a bit more receptive of this kind of stuff when it starts getting published in mainstream peer-reviewed journals instead of the fringe "free energy" publications.
>>- Carl
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