what is inside OKM devices

[okantex]

they insist their products include radar and magnometer.
I read manuels but they only talk about magnometer.
and we know radars penetrate 2 or 3 meters.
is there anybody who knows what is inside
thanks

[Christian]

I guess that you will find a fluxgaate magnetometer when disassembling it. However it can't be called anything close to a GPR by the technical defination and working principle of GPR.

[hawk17966]

Magnetometer and nothing else.....


Just prefined magnetometer,digital data logger and nothing else....
Much money for nothing....
If someone want to buy simillar, better choice is GM858 from OYO Geometrics......look at .net....
Unusable in many areas......
This kind of devices are picking up just static changes from ground surface caused by so many different causes.....
No "penetration", no TX, just receiver....lets say a sort of receiver.....fluxgate sensors put in tube......"sniffers".....
Just imagine what kind of natural causes can cause differential surface ground conditions.....Can we use it for accurate treasure hunting? No!
regards

[okantex]

hi hawk ,
you know what they say
good friendships starts with argue.

look here my mails to OKM and their answers for their bogus.

you have to start from bottom mail.
a big liar company.
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Hi,

for this found (coins with Rover C) we didn't receive any graphic from
the
customer, he just sent us a picture of his found.

The image which you sent indicates a metallic box, the red signal shows
the metal found. The blue color values next to it, can be some
anomalies
because of loosy ground or they show the digging on this place. The
green
color is normal ground.

Best regards
Julia Bessel
OKM Ortungstechnik GmbH



Am Fri, 06 Oct 2006 16:44:21 +0200 schrieb okan aydin
<[email protected]>:

> hi
> I can not see any picture next to coins
>
> "
> the picture of the coins you can see next to the
>> photo of the coins.
>> The red spots indicates the metal found.
>
> "do you mean the one next to flagstone which is the
> next picture
>
> thanks.
> and could you explain 1,2,3 in attachment.it is from
> manual
>
> thanks again ,and again for your interest.
>
>
>
>
> --- Office <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> the picture of the coins you can see next to the
>> photo of the coins.
>> The red spots indicates the metal found.
>>
>> All metallic pieces (like gold, silver, iron,
>> aluminium etc.) are
>> represented in red color inside the scan image.
>>
>> Cavities are represented in blue color, green color
>> means normal ground.
>>
>> If you are looking for a metallic target inside a
>> cavity you will see in
>> the graphic the blue color of the cavity and next to
>> it a red signal for
>> the metal piece.
>>
>> The statue on our homepage is not made of black
>> marble, it is cooper.
>>
>> It was also represented in red color, but
>> unfortunately we didn't receive
>> the scan of the customer.
>>
>> Best regards
>> Julia Bessel
>> OKM Ortungstechnik GmbH
>>
>>
>> Am Wed, 04 Oct 2006 15:38:18 +0200 schrieb okan
>> aydin
>> <[email protected]>:
>>
>> > hi,
>> > my uncle does not permit to sent pic.he say an
>> > engineer will look it in istanbul.
>> > but can you sent me the picture we see when we
>> find
>> > gold.for example
>> > in current discoverys page
>> > there are gold coins found with roverC
>> > what was the the screen look like before digging.
>> > what color is used in software for gold
>> >
>> > and we are looking for a big chest which must be
>> in
>> > tunnel like 3 meters below.
>> > what will we see .just blue for cavity.
>> >
>> > AND İN FİNDS THERE İS A BLACK MARBLE STATUE
>> > CAN YOU SENT THE VİEW OF SCREEN WHEN İT
>> FOUND.,TOO
>> > THANKS A LOT
>> >
>> >
>> > --- Office <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Dear Sir,
>> >>
>> >> I already spoke to our technicians and we came to
>> >> the conclusion that we
>> >> cannot tell you about the detailed working
>> principle
>> >> of our devices. I
>> >> already told you the basic technology.
>> >>
>> >> Of course we are willing to help you to use
>> >> correctly your device.
>> >>
>> >> But therefore we have to know more details about
>> >> your measurements. Please
>> >> send us some of your example scans, and tell you
>> all
>> >> details about your
>> >> measurement (such as size of field, distance
>> between
>> >> scan lines and
>> >> impulses, type of soil etc.)
>> >>
>> >> Then maybe we can find out why you didn't find
>> >> anything.
>> >>
>> >> Best regards
>> >> Julia Bessel
>> >> OKM Ortungstechnik GmbH
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Am Wed, 04 Oct 2006 11:50:22 +0200 schrieb okan
>> >> aydin
>> >> <[email protected]>:
>> >>
>> >> > Hi
>> >> > thanks for reply
>> >> > every proucer says these
>> >> > " Our engineers developed an own technology
>> which
>> >> > can
>> >> > fullfill these requirements.
>> >> >
>> >> > OKM technology is protected by copyright and
>> has
>> >> been
>> >> > tested by
>> >> > certified
>> >> > technical experts
>> >> > "
>> >> > they are right .I know.
>> >> > but most of them does not work.
>> >> > And all of them has patent which are
>> registered.
>> >> >
>> >> > we got one of your products.
>> >> > we digged a lot
>> >> > with out finding anything.
>> >> > I do not want your pcb plans or schematic
>> >> > just want to know how it works.it's working
>> >> > princible.I think it is our right to know what
>> we
>> >> paid
>> >> > for.
>> >> > and I know you are costumer support.and it is
>> >> normal
>> >> > for you to not know tecnical part.
>> >> > but you can help.ask any engineer for
>> discribtion
>> >> >
>> >> > thanks
>> >> > is this ulf reciver like emfad
>> >> > or just mag.or what is the second unit
>> >> > how discriminat procios metals .
>> >> > will they be red or blue like cavity
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --- Office <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Dear Sir,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> we will not answer to your questions below,
>> >> because
>> >> >> it is a production
>> >> >> secret of our company. Our engineers developed
>> an
>> >> >> own technology which can
>> >> >> fullfill these requirements.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> OKM technology is protected by copyright and
>> has
>> >> >> been tested by certified
>> >> >> technical experts.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Best regards
>> >> >> Julia Bessel
>> >> >> OKM Ortungstechnik GmbH
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Am Mon, 02 Oct 2006 17:10:46 +0200 schrieb
>> okan
>> >> >> aydin
>> >> >> <[email protected]>:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Hi ,
>> >> >> > I have some questions
>> >> >> > 1)what do you have in your unit.
>> >> >> > you say in net ,a radar and mag
>> >> >> > I know that mags penetrate 10meters if
>> target
>> >> is
>> >> >> > ferrous.if not much less.
>> >> >> > and radars even with 100mhz 3-4 meters with
>> no
>> >> >> > discrimination
>> >> >> > how yours discriminate and penetrate more
>> than
>> >> 10
>> >> >> > meters.
>> >> >> > emfad has ULF unit ,what u have ?
>> >> >> > 2)say that I have a big gold target in
>> ground.
>> >> >> > if I do not use super sensor ,could I find a
>> >> >> target
>> >> >> > with out knowing gold or iron.
>> >> >> > if so what will be the color blue or red as
>> >> iron.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I know that gold is diamagnetic and act
>> >> opposite
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> > iron and regrets earth mag. fluxes.
>> >> >> > like cavities does.
>> >> >> > 3)how your unit differs cavity and gold?
>> >> >> > I know your andswer .from fluctuations.but
>> how
>> >> you
>> >> >> > differ the stuation in pic and non ferrous
>> >> metals
>> >> >> even
>> >> >> > with supersensor.
>> >> >> >
>>
> === message truncated ===
>
>
>

[hawk17966]

Ha,ha,ha...


Yes....so much about it...
You can consider yourself lucky,they even answered you...
regards

[michael]

Okantex, Do you own Rover C? If yes, we can exchange some info.
I think their instruments work, but not necessarily as they claim.
1- I am sure when the target is inside a cavity (room, tunnel) that are not in direct contact with soil, they are unable to detect.
2- they can detect only targets on surface not deep, although I've heard one team succeeded in Iran by 2005 voyager a treasure in depth.
3- the soil should be intact. if you disturb soil, will never get result.(Based on what I have experienced myself)

[okantex]

no I do not have.
AS I say there are lots of buried items at my uncles garden.
and poeple comes there tp test their new toys.
but in my opinion they can not detect gold for deep.
iron and cavity okay but no gold.
there is a tunnel that I know and a roo related to it is full of gold .long story do not ask for detail.a team looking for entrance with OKM devices .only user of device knows about machine.and he is a quesst come there by money.
said to team there is a room underground at 56meters and a black spot covered by blue means gold.
the dept is right.it is the bottom level of hill ,I measured it through googleearth.
but black spot is unbelieveable.
I show machines through my computer to my friend and he say machine was futture I-160 or somethinglike that.

[evren kılıç]

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