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  • Re: geometrics g-826

    >hi carl--


    >the pictorial on the web site shows a long solenoid


    >type structure---the coils made here are generally


    >on a plexiglass form with easy measure of dimentions.


    >by a resistance measure can get close on the number


    >of turns---by resonance with cap of known value


    >(though Q is a little wide sometimes) carefull


    >peaking---can attain inductance value--by experiment.


    >then by plugging in values into formula mentioned,the


    >delta was not too far different---so close that just


    >tweeking the frequency a little from what was called


    >peaked--now difference is on the other side....


    >should be interesting to see you come up with---


    I read through the article and found nothing suggesting a length limit so maybe the formula is valid for short coils like your measurements suggest. Probably needs a slight "fudge factor" added.


    >question--you make coil winder--mine all by hand--


    >tedious but no production requirements...running out


    >of magnet wire----not like old days 1lb/4.95


    The only source I can find right now is Mouser, 1lb/$12 or 8lb/$75. Have you ever tried wire wrapping wire instead? Thicker insulation should give lower interwinding capacitance. More expensive, tho.


    - Carl

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    Re: coils still- but not forever

    >hi carl--


    >the pictorial on the web site shows a long solenoid


    >type structure---the coils made here are generally


    >on a plexiglass form with easy measure of dimentions.


    >by a resistance measure can get close on the number


    >of turns---by resonance with cap of known value


    >(though Q is a little wide sometimes) carefull


    >peaking---can attain inductance value--by experiment.


    >then by plugging in values into formula mentioned,the


    >delta was not too far different---so close that just


    >tweeking the frequency a little from what was called


    >peaked--now difference is on the other side....


    >should be interesting to see you come up with---


    I read through the article and found nothing suggesting a length limit so maybe the formula is valid for short coils like your measurements suggest. Probably needs a slight "fudge factor" added.


    >question--you make coil winder--mine all by hand--


    >tedious but no production requirements...running out


    >of magnet wire----not like old days 1lb/4.95


    The only source I can find right now is Mouser, 1lb/$12 or 8lb/$75. Have you ever tried wire wrapping wire instead? Thicker insulation should give lower interwinding capacitance. More expensive, tho.


    - Carl

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      Re: geometrics g-826

      I have a Geometrics 803 mag. I believe I have the same remote (land) sensor you


      are referring to. However, I also have a sensor for marine use which is much,


      much larger and additionally has fins.


      The marine sensor came with my unit and is not a Geometrics product, but a home


      built sensor. When I spoke to the engineer at Geometrics he did mention that


      the


      sensors were relatively easy to make.


      Geometric's web page is ... http://www.geometrics.com/products.html


      You might want to call them up and ask them if you can speak to one of their


      engineers (there are two of them that I recall). The guy spent over 30 minutes


      on the phone with me and had been working there for a number of years and


      recalled of of the units they had had over the years. He could likely give you


      some insight into the unit.


      I picked my unit up after the boating season (Alaska's season is very short,


      only


      about 4 months long). I have to attach the cable to the sensor and housing and


      then it should be ready for a test run this summer.


      Patrick


      [email protected] wrote:


      > The Proton Mag Forum


      >


      > Hi I have a geometrics g-826 base station mag with portable sensor(for land


      > use),unit


      > is old but pristine. Portable unit,when taken from base station,uses d-cells


      > for power,sensor is about 5 in dia,6in tall. when plugged into base station


      > input is 24vdc,115vac. I have attached 100 ft cable to portable sensor and


      > hope to use it for underwater work,but havent yet. Fluids ive used before in


      > mags usually is unleaded gasoline and coleman white gas,with no problems. Has


      > anyone have any opinions about the G-826 mag. It has a north arrow for


      > alignment on sensor for use in high latitudes.


      >


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