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  • Whites Classic, II, III, ID, and IDX Modifications

    Seeing that I have got out of the metal detecting busness. I thought I would pass this on to you all.

    Be very carefull unsoldering the componets. Distroying the circuit traces is very easy to do.



    Remove VR1 Trimmer off the board. Replace with a 50k linear taper, single turn potentiometer.

    Remove VR4 trimmer off the board replacing it with a 100k linear taper, single turn potentiometer.

    Mount these potentiometer’s externally on the top of the case.

    Replace resistor R24 with a 2.2 Meg. You could have either a 470k or a 1.5 Meg there depending on when the unit was manufactured.

    Check resistor R7. If it’s not a 51 ohm resistor, replace it with one of that value. It’s most likely a 100 ohm from factory. Later manufactured units had 51 ohms.

    For potentiometer wiring, I use flat multi wire such as type used in computers for component connection to the board. I cut a 2 wire, 7.5” piece for the 50k ground balance pot, and a 3 wire 7.5” one for the 100k threshold pot. I secure these wires with a wire tie to the head phone & speaker wire near the connectors. I used one other wire tie to secure the pot wires together up near the pots.

    Caution. Be sure that the pot closest to the end of the case doesn’t short out against the installed board components.

    S.A.T changes. R32 220k resistor can be changed out. Raising the value slows the SAT. I have been installing a 375k running it through a toggle switch with the 220k. Giving a high & low setting of the SAT. One could use a potentiometer for variable results.

    If your detector uses a ID meter, open the meter case, and replace resistor R28 (3.9 meg) with a 10 meg resistor. This aids in increasing the meter response depth.

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    Thank you very much Mr. Bill. You're very kind.

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    • #3
      wow nice work on that mad . i wish u had some pics of all the mods and wiring . i can handle the 50k and the 100k pots . it woul be nice to ground balance the old thing and give it some new life lol. hmmm would you sell me all the parts i need to do all this modding ? i can get the stuff but it will tke some time to come up with this stuff ...if you have it i will buy it .

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      • #4
        Hey Silversurfer ~If you have a Radio Shack in your area all the parts you'll need you can find there. Woodstock
        Originally posted by silversurfer View Post
        wow nice work on that mad . i wish u had some pics of all the mods and wiring . i can handle the 50k and the 100k pots . it woul be nice to ground balance the old thing and give it some new life lol. hmmm would you sell me all the parts i need to do all this modding ? i can get the stuff but it will tke some time to come up with this stuff ...if you have it i will buy it .

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        • #5
          MR.Bill or anyone who has done this MOD. I'm going to do this MOD on my dads whites classic III. My question is about the S.A.T. changes. There is a 220k resister on the r32 location and I also need to install a switch and a 375k resister. What is the function of the switch? Is the switch picking 220k or 375k depening on the switch position or is it adding the 375 in series with the 220 for a total of 595k so you are running 595k or 220k? Thanks for any help.

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          • #6
            [QUOTE=Mr.Bill;155375]
            Replace resistor R24 with a 2.2 Meg. You could have either a 470k or a 1.5 Meg there depending on when the unit was manufactured.

            the values you have above for the resistors i replaced 470k with a 1.0 meg and seams fine should i put the 2 meg one instead would that increase the sensitivity more ive done the ground balance and r7 as stated but found the other value on this forum before i found this post ? so now iam confused to what is right to do ? .

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            • #7
              In relation to Konan's problem, I noted that R24 is a bit too low. A minimum offset as a criterion for sensitivity should be about 5mV, but some schematics show R24 values that set this at over 10mV. The only consequence of setting the minimum offset too low is that you'd experience some more chattering at the high sensitivity - so what. You can always turn a bit to some quiet level. It is safe to assume that extracting the R24 completely from the board would not result in anything spectacular, and may only promote sensitivity.

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              • #8
                so what ive done is ok but would it be better to put the 2.2 meg in would that make it more sensitive ?

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                • #9
                  It would enable your IDX to use lower amplitudes of signal, but eventually you'll hit the noise floor and your unit will behave a bit hectic.

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                  • #10
                    My question is, re: R32, where do you find a 375k resistor? This is a custom resistance value not in the normal range of available resistors is it not?

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                    • #11
                      I just finished the GEB/Threshold mods on my Classic III after doing the same to my IDX Pro. What a great mod! I can go almost as deep in Disc (minimal) as I can in All-Metal mode! Thank you Mr Bill! I have yet to make the SAT mod because I am thrown by the odd resistor value given for R32. Where do I get a 375k resistor, is that not an odd value?

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                      • #12
                        My apology for what seems to be me saying something twice in different way! I was trying to edit my first post and instead added it to as a second post! Sorry, noob!

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                        • #13
                          It's not a odd resistor value. There availble at most ele. supply places. Now with that said, it's not a critical value. Use something close, you'll be fine.

                          Bill

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                          • #14
                            I'm no expert but from all my reading you can put resistors in series to make one value also, ie a 300 and a 75 to get the 375. I wasn't able to find the 375 at a company that had the other components I need and I didn't want to order from 7 different places.

                            What watt resistors are you guys using for the mods?

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                            • #15
                              Amazing, thank you Mr Bill!

                              Could anyone who has successfully completed this mod, post some pictures which mark all the relevant components (resistors, etc) which need changing over.
                              I know this is a big ask, but I would be sooooooooooo grateful!!

                              Thank you in advance

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