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  • #46
    Originally posted by Funfinder View Post
    Hi Bhathu saaii

    do you have some google earth picture of the area or the google maps link with coordinates?!

    If "your" area with the finds really is that small you have 3 options:

    - excavator - remove 1m layer of soil
    - GPR - ground penetrating radar - look very carefully for anomalies
    - you and a second person (if you can trust it) with DeepHunter and 1 meter coil

    Buying cheap chinese plagiate detectors might not be the best option.
    These things look nice but the depth is just around 70% compared with the originals.
    You can get something really deep for a super price but you also may get junk.
    It's rather some game of luck and don't rely on warranty etc.

    And sorry my friend, but don't be too optimistical, otherwise you might just get frustrated.
    This whole treasure-hunting stuff is some philosophy on itself and either you become
    used to it or you might fail and just waste a lot of time, money, efforts and perhaps even
    your life if there are greedy and brutal guys around, who wanna have a piece of the cake.

    Your best bet will be if you can narrow down the hunting-area because with 2 meters depth
    otherwise your chances are pretty low, especially if you wanna do this alone.

    But I wish you good luck - because I always like treasure-hunting success!
    And I know what is success - hell, I know it too good.
    The real success are no treasures but a really enjoyable state of mind - ALWAYS! :-)
    Perhaps I should check out some cute Pina babe for having a lot of fun !!! ;-)
    Originally posted by Funfinder View Post
    Hi Bhathu saaii

    do you have some google earth picture of the area or the google maps link with coordinates?!

    If "your" area with the finds really is that small you have 3 options:

    - excavator - remove 1m layer of soil
    - GPR - ground penetrating radar - look very carefully for anomalies
    - you and a second person (if you can trust it) with DeepHunter and 1 meter coil

    Buying cheap chinese plagiate detectors might not be the best option.
    These things look nice but the depth is just around 70% compared with the originals.
    You can get something really deep for a super price but you also may get junk.
    It's rather some game of luck and don't rely on warranty etc.

    And sorry my friend, but don't be too optimistical, otherwise you might just get frustrated.
    This whole treasure-hunting stuff is some philosophy on itself and either you become
    used to it or you might fail and just waste a lot of time, money, efforts and perhaps even
    your life if there are greedy and brutal guys around, who wanna have a piece of the cake.

    Your best bet will be if you can narrow down the hunting-area because with 2 meters depth
    otherwise your chances are pretty low, especially if you wanna do this alone.

    But I wish you good luck - because I always like treasure-hunting success!
    And I know what is success - hell, I know it too good.
    The real success are no treasures but a really enjoyable state of mind - ALWAYS! :-)
    Perhaps I should check out some cute Pina babe for having a lot of fun !!! ;-)
    Its easy to produce the map and the coordinates using google earth app.

    I think GPR would be the good answer for it though GPR cost a lot..its too expensive for us..hoping to buy it sooner or later..we dont have a plan to buy on chinese product coz its useless. I know.

    Hahaha thanks a lot my friend. Im not that optimistic. Its just my hobby. Im too dedicated to work for this hobby but i dont have that much of time because i have a job for a living.

    I agree with you. Thats why im with the people who can be trusted. But i dont give the whole trust. I pray from above whenever the blessing is in our front,no one would change their minds. Coz its more hotter than money.

    Anyway,im gping to make this for a shallow depth deposite only. But for the deep deposite i guess GPR would be great or ERM like accumeter.

    Thanks a lot
    ! I do agree! so enjoyable

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    • #47
      Originally posted by RS_Phil View Post
      2 meters range is not difficult if you used 1x1 meter coil even felezjoo can do it, but on stability its hard to find a good one
      My felezjoo video with 20x30cm PCB at several feet.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNraHpZr-sQ
      Thank you bro..ill make it..i will look for the complete files here..from parts to pcb layout and coild..
      Anyway,the result in the actual field is better? Coz other MD is advertising their product but it didnt worked as expected..

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Funfinder View Post
        Haha, this is the full gold-trap now for you, bhathu. Not funny.

        First you'll think that the gold is worth the invest (lets say 10.000 dollars) and then you might
        run into big troubles without end if you're not really lucky and find gold for 100.000 dollars.

        Main question:
        How large is the nearest to ground surface of the chest or plate or whatever -
        are the gold bars flat one next to another and cover a larger area?!

        In air I can detect a 45x35cm alu case @ 2m. with 45cm DD-coil (JeoHunter).
        So this is not the problem with even 1m IB coil, the finds surface is the problem.

        If the gold is 2m deep inside an aluminium-chest 50x50x50cm you can detect
        it because the contrast to mineralization is much higher as in rusty iron chest.

        But 2 meter is no childsplay - even if you would detect a buried tank! *laugh*

        Best bet is by surface-anomalies (you can see that someone did bury something
        at a certain place) and then use magnetometer and excavator to find it.
        Means you pretty exactly must not the place. As long as there are no mine-traps. :-D
        I think its not a trap..just an air test demonstration.nothings wrong with it..but we always know that the air test is far different from the ground test..

        WE ACTUALLY DONT KNOW. No one knows except for the actuals maps being left by the japanese battalion..thats the buggest clue to answer that question..but lucky if you have that map..
        We dont have a map, we're just relying on the treasure signs,markers,codes being left and made by japanese engineering battalion..

        Yes. But gold bard are stored in treasure box/chest.cemented treasure vaults.gold coins and jewelries are stored in the jar and small drum..they are being coated by asphalt..

        I agree with you
        What would be the best magnetometer can be found here? I mean effective and most used by hunters here?

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        • #49
          Originally posted by godigit1 View Post
          Lidar data for the area you want to search would be killer. With the vegitation removed you can see some very old disturbances in the soil. Old foundations roads trails anything that changes surface terrain.
          https://carsulidar1.wordpress.com/ab...nd-objectives/
          maybe start here.
          Thank you for the idea. But i think lidar is used to trace pathways and road trails..
          It also one of the helpful application to be used in TH..do we have available LiDAR here in the philippines? How much would it cost? Thank you..

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          • #50
            Yama****a's treasures are so hidden that even a lidar will not help you! A friend of mine personally became convinced of this.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Funfinder View Post
              There is always the trail of money and personal lust-lucrativity from where
              you can find out the (formerly) motivations of people but more important now:

              There is the trail of informations which motivates a treasure-hunter becoming active !!!


              What you do if the treasure-rumors are just lies and many others are following such
              false leads already ?!? Motivations spreaded perhaps even by those who just wanna
              sell their equipment? *laugh* OK, for luck most of the time this is not the case but
              with treasure-hunts you have to be careful!

              Those fools at Oak Island are sponsored by 1.500.000 dollars of TV-investments
              per year, which shall come back through enough hype and advertising-income.
              They could go all home into their own dreamworlds without all this "fake"-push!
              They not even found something with the most expensive PI with 1m coil for
              10.000 dollars at this artificial swamp at Oak Islands. *laugh* Such Sh*t-show!


              What means lidar data - leak data?

              Anyway, either he can verify the informations-source seriousity and that there are
              real special ground-disturbances or he is lost because 2 meter is more
              than heavy to detect, especially cause he's a total newbie to this stuff.

              I've detected already in 2010 80cm deep cannonballs and 1m deep steel-stems.
              I know how this deep search works because I love it and I have a lot experience.

              I can even feel from the detection-distance-coil-sphere the depth and size.
              Because a larger object creates a half detection-globe over the ground.

              But for very deep objects you can be happy if you get a fainting signal at all.
              Without the gadgets,some people here already found the said rumors. And 2 of my friends already found it. Hold it. And sell it. In short, this rumors are being kept by the USA,japan and phil government..

              Just wanna make this PI or VLF for shallow targets only because we have tunnels and caves target areas..fow deep target,i think GPR and accumeter is the best..


              Anyway,do you have any idea about satellites? Coz one of the great hunter/hitter here in our province uses a cellphone to detect a shallow target or even deeper targets.. it must have a load.. i dont know what app he uses..

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              • #52
                Originally posted by godigit1 View Post
                What means lidar data - leak data?

                Lidar is lazar imaging of the ground structure. It removes the vegitation from the surface so you can see the ground in much more detail.

                For most places if done at all its probably propriatory info unless the study is made public.

                In my area a new lidar has been done that is interactive like Google earth and you can shade in topos or whatever base imagry map you want.
                Ive been into a remote known gold area twice in the past and not been able to find the diggings.

                Now with the Lidar I can see why. The forest service or blm of land owner someone flattened out all the tailings with a dozer. I walked through the spot twice before if there was no meadow grasses I would have noticed it. Lidar has shown me many interesting things so far.
                Its funny people who have there houses removed from Google earth. Ha Ha I can see your foundation. and layer you in!!!! not that I care too, paranoid people anyway what are they hiding another Jacee Dugard.
                She was taken 30 minutes from my house I remembered it as a kid it was a shock for the community it was mind blowing when they found her.

                As far as gold in the Philippines i have not researched it but from what I understand it was hidden by the goverment then picked up after the war they knew exactly where they hid the stuff.
                The guy Im renovating for now collects coins and has coins that were recovered from the ocean many years later by the military. Maybe private moneys could be burried but dont think the goverment forgot anything.
                Yes. Exactly. That is the purpose of lidar.

                Hahaha woah? You're stalikng on them hahaha they will get nervous if they will know that someone is looking on their land specially the fpundation of their houses..

                No. It was not hidden by the government. It was being looted by the some government officials also. Do you knwo JICA? It is the most known road contructor here. All over the philippines. If you will research on them,they are funded by the japs people and they make roads where the exact deposite is being burried by their engineering battalion

                Can you help me about accumeter pro II schematics? i will also make one of those..its much more accurate than other ERM. I guess

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                • #53
                  Hahaha woah? You're stalikng on them hahaha they will get nervous if they will know that someone is looking on their land specially the fpundation of their houses..

                  No not stalking.
                  I was looking for a horse track from the past I was told about. I use google earth and Lidar at the same time. I noticed a foundation on the edge of the field and not on google earth. First thought was old homesite.
                  Nope turns out a house hidden on GE.
                  I wish you the best in your hunts it doesnt hurt to try. I even went the LRL route at one point Spent way too much money on a rangemaster. Ended up selling it even though I told the person it does not really work. James Randy The Idiotometer effect explains dowsing good enough for me. Though every controlled test I did worked or seemed to. the strangest one was I had a friends son bury a lead bar then I went after it. I walked right over it through the field to a fence looked over and there was a pallet of batteries.
                  It damn worked that time I think or Its just that one in a million chance.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by godigit1 View Post
                    Hahaha woah? You're stalikng on them hahaha they will get nervous if they will know that someone is looking on their land specially the fpundation of their houses..

                    No not stalking.
                    I was looking for a horse track from the past I was told about. I use google earth and Lidar at the same time. I noticed a foundation on the edge of the field and not on google earth. First thought was old homesite.
                    Nope turns out a house hidden on GE.
                    I wish you the best in your hunts it doesnt hurt to try. I even went the LRL route at one point Spent way too much money on a rangemaster. Ended up selling it even though I told the person it does not really work. James Randy The Idiotometer effect explains dowsing good enough for me. Though every controlled test I did worked or seemed to. the strangest one was I had a friends son bury a lead bar then I went after it. I walked right over it through the field to a fence looked over and there was a pallet of batteries.
                    It damn worked that time I think or Its just that one in a million chance.
                    Okay i get it..

                    Anyway,dowsing is a broad topic. You can start on basics. And you can learn how to use it.

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                    • #55
                      I guess this LIDAR technology only works if you have old satellite pictures, too and if the vegetation changes pretty fast.
                      At regions with woods consisting of 100 years old evergreen trees it's as good as useless, but perhaps with GPS you can
                      find from ground-level if there are artificial made plaeteau oder formerly roads if the rest of the ground-levels is
                      changing a lot.

                      Back to the trail of information:

                      Usually you are screwed if you only have the information which also others have already !!!
                      And if after 50 years some formerly top secret papers became declassified its just a sign
                      that this information meanwhile has become totally useless for others, like 200 year old
                      military-technology. *laugh*

                      The usual ("naive") treasure-hunter hears some rumors, searches for more rumors,
                      combines the rumors with personal research results or "good" ideas and tries its luck.
                      Or he tries to brute-force crack a huge area where the treasure seems to be -
                      which can become a titan-task for many decades if you turn every stone upside down.

                      If this is the so called Y-a-m-a-s-h-i-t-a-treasure I'm sure that already 1000s were searching
                      for it and many with a much better financial background as some private person can effort.

                      And if you can't narrow down the search-region even the best magnetometer or GPR
                      can't help because the Philippines are full of jungle and bays, swamps and places
                      of civilisation-junk, war-remains and villages with houses, huts and roads.

                      More I can't say here because I haven't enough background-knowledge but
                      I guess just only with the "free available" usual treasure-rumors-information
                      from public books or this here:

                      wikipedia Y-a-m-a-s-h-i-t-a-s G-o-l-d


                      the chances to succeed are pretty bad. Already the 2 meters of depth is a huge
                      obstacle to pass, even if someone knows the area exactly for 100 x 100 meters.

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                      • #56
                        Well? There are lots of financers and even politicians joined this yama****a expidition most of politicians joined because they have already got a good result.

                        Yes. 2meters depth is very hard and useless in that very wide area. But,we are aiming for shallow deposites only. Mostly located in the side of the creeks and rivers..

                        Well,its up to you if you wont believe me

                        But i guess i really need your help how to build a metal detector that can detect a gold object at 2meters depth.

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                        • #57
                          Is this true that monthly income at Philippines is only 100 Dollars - how can you built
                          a rather professional detector with such few money?! Even importing the electronic
                          parts can costs you more than 500 Dollars.

                          Maybe you better buy from alibaba some China PI detector with 1meter coil or a "fake"
                          Whites 808 because without electronic experience you can't built 2 meter deep detector.
                          Or you can buy from Turkey second hand Jeohunter or Deephunter for ca. 1000 Dollars which
                          costs usual 5000 dollars but because of inflation the Dollar is pretty much worth there:

                          https://www.dedektorburada.com/Jeoso...tem,PR-44.html

                          This is a very good offer if you don't need all the time the newest stuff.
                          This is the main page maybe you find even better deal:
                          https://www.dedektorburada.com/kategori/nokta-dedektor

                          You will need 1 meter coil minimum and perhaps a good trustworthy friend as helper
                          because with 1 meter coil search and digging can become much more work.

                          China detectors is worse quality and I doubt that you can buy them second hand.
                          Sometimes you even must buy 100 pieces at once! *laugh*

                          At beaches you need no detector, you can dig just holes every 3 meters!
                          Cheapest solution ever! *laugh*

                          But first you must have really good research and information so you can
                          narrow down the search-region as small as possible.
                          And you must be the right character-type for finding Gold so in the end
                          it brings you really luck and fortune. This is very very important.

                          I even would say that as treasure-hunter you need to have a special attitude
                          - which only a very few people have - so you can enjoy your work and finds!

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Bhathu saaii View Post
                            Well? There are lots of financers and even politicians joined this yama****a expidition most of politicians joined because they have already got a good result.

                            Yes. 2meters depth is very hard and useless in that very wide area. But,we are aiming for shallow deposites only. Mostly located in the side of the creeks and rivers..

                            Well,its up to you if you wont believe me

                            But i guess i really need your help how to build a metal detector that can detect a gold object at 2meters depth.


                            How many 2 meter deep holes have you dug so far ?

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                            • #59
                              Without enough experience even the best detector in the world might not help.
                              So my suggestion is to start it slowly by diving for ship-wrecks etc. and using
                              a handheld PI-detector. And then - step by step - the experience grows and
                              enables for harder to find treasures.

                              In Europe there are also many who wanna go directly for the infamous Nazi Gold
                              and the only thing they receiving are astronomical high search expenditure costs.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by 6666 View Post
                                How many 2 meter deep holes have you dug so far ?
                                Thank you

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