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    Hi guys, my GS 5 stopped working. It had been out the day before and the next morning when I went to turn it on, the battery meter went all the way up and started to smell burnt.
    I quickly unplugged it and the transistor below was very hot. Not that this could happen.
    Can somebody help me? Or I would like to know who can fix ...
    Thanks

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  • #2
    not a transistor. it's a stabilizer of negative voltage of power supply.

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    • #3
      The LM337 provides -10V for the audio circuit. Maybe the headphones got shorted. The -10V also drives a -5V regulator for the rest of the circuitry but I would think the -5V reg would burn up long before the LM337.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by draco View Post
        Hi guys, my GS 5 stopped working. It had been out the day before and the next morning when I went to turn it on, the battery meter went all the way up and started to smell burnt.
        I quickly unplugged it and the transistor below was very hot. Not that this could happen.
        Can somebody help me? Or I would like to know who can fix ...
        Thanks

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        Why is there an IC missing from the Dip8 socket?

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        • #5
          There's probably another issue with the board.
          The regulator there is probably overloaded with high current caused by short, maybe even damaged mosfet transistor not willing to switch on/off or mosfet timing circuit malfunction.

          If you have knowledge in testing do the following:
          1) Disconnect the coil
          2) measure the coil resistance must be over 2 ohms to be sure coil is not shorted
          3) Measure voltages +5V, -5V, -BAT to LM337 output
          4) Measure the gate pin on the mosfet, you must have about ~3Khz frequency there with oscilloscope

          All Eric Foster machines can be repaired because there's no chips deleted, white paint etc crap.

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          • #6
            True. Voltage stabilizer

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            • #7
              Originally posted by surfdetector View Post
              Why is there an IC missing from the Dip8 socket?
              It has always been like this. The reason I do not know

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              • #8
                Originally posted by eclipse View Post
                There's probably another issue with the board.
                The regulator there is probably overloaded with high current caused by short, maybe even damaged mosfet transistor not willing to switch on/off or mosfet timing circuit malfunction.

                If you have knowledge in testing do the following:
                1) Disconnect the coil
                2) measure the coil resistance must be over 2 ohms to be sure coil is not shorted
                3) Measure voltages +5V, -5V, -BAT to LM337 output
                4) Measure the gate pin on the mosfet, you must have about ~3Khz frequency there with oscilloscope

                All Eric Foster machines can be repaired because there's no chips deleted, white paint etc crap.
                Although I have cloned some detectors, I have no knowledge of electronics. I wouldn't put my hand on something as precious as the GS5

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Carl-NC View Post
                  The LM337 provides -10V for the audio circuit. Maybe the headphones got shorted. The -10V also drives a -5V regulator for the rest of the circuitry but I would think the -5V reg would burn up long before the LM337.
                  Thanks Carl. The headphones, I'm a Gray ghost. They seem to work perfectly on other detectors

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by draco View Post
                    Hi guys, my GS 5 stopped working. It had been out the day before and the next morning when I went to turn it on, the battery meter went all the way up and started to smell burnt.
                    I quickly unplugged it and the transistor below was very hot. Not that this could happen.
                    Can somebody help me? Or I would like to know who can fix ...
                    Thanks

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                    Hi Draco,

                    Something puzzles me about this board. The missing IC is a Cmos 555 used to generate a square wave of about 60kHz to drive a diode pump type inverter for the +5V rail used in the receiver. The link of black wire to the 4538 IC looks to be a substitute for the 555. This is not original. If it works, then the result is that the inverter is synchronised to the TX pulse rate, thereby eliminating a potential source of interference.
                    Over the next few days, I will get a board and see if this, or a different fault, could cause the 337 regulator to run hot. The green capacitor is also a foreigner.

                    Eric.

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                    • #11
                      The green tantalum bead capacitor does look to be 106 = 10 uF, and it's fitted the correct way round, so maybe the original died, but the replacement is OK ?
                      The dark blue preset pot looks non-original, too, to me.
                      If the 555 pin 3 was used to drive a charge-pump & its load, then there would've been a significant current drawn from that output. No problem for a plain bipolar NE555, or even a LinCMOS TLC555, but hopeless for a 4000-series monostable timer IC, surely ?

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                      • #12
                        Everything is original. Nothing has ever been touched except a capacitor that was replaced at the time.
                        Eric, if I remember correctly, you reviewed this device and updated it to the latest version, before I bought it.
                        Thanks for your help

                        Ps: I will look for the documentation that you sent with the device

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                        • #13
                          Eric, I post a photo of the update you made to my GS5 below. I bought it from the person to whom you address the following message.
                          Thanks

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                          • #14
                            I have hesitated to say this before; but it seemed to me that I had seen that signature before:
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by ivconic View Post
                              I have hesitated to say this before; but it seemed to me that I had seen that signature before:
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                              Nice vision memory! Ivconic, are you ex tax worker in the past?)

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