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[Magma]

Authentically shema for CEZAR :



About coil; I suggested : 70 windings, 0.45mm wire for TX (9.77mH) and 160 windings, 0.27mm wire for Rx (2.39mH). DD coil 27cm diammeter. Diameter from coil winding is 200mm (full circle).

[Qiaozhi]

Authentically shema for CEZAR :



About coil; I suggested : 70 windings, 0.45mm wire for TX (9.77mH) and 160 windings, 0.27mm wire for Rx (2.39mH). DD coil 27cm diammeter. Diameter from coil winding is 200mm (full circle).

I think you have the inductance values swapped over. Using my coil calculator I get TX = 2.33mH and RX = 11.788mH. Ignoring the discrepancies in the actual and calculated values, it is clear that RX should be greater than TX, not the other round. Also, even without the calculator, you can see that there is a mistake. RX is the same diameter as TX, has more turns and uses thinner wire.Therefore its inductance must be higher.

[Magma]

Ites mine error, 11.788mH. is properly value but number of turns is correct .
Best regards

[getsa]

Hi

Hi Ivconic,
According to you-which shematic work better and more stable in air/soil :caezar or TGSL.You have built both.

[ivconic]

TGSL of course. No competition.

[Magma]

TGSL , is unstable ! so heavily for operate .

[Fred]

TGSL , is unstable ! so heavily for operate .

i ´m expecting an explosive answer to that

[ivconic]

It is just stupid provocation. As i suspected, same old snouts; first as unregistered and now like "registered", again coming here and do some little stupid games. If he already had prepared answer, why he asked a question after all? Why asking me if do have some own,personal "truth"?
Some yokels will die unchanged, no matter what man do with them.
My "explosive" answer would be: illiteracy and ignorance is only reason why TGSL performs unstable.

[Fred]

Here you go

[ivconic]

Well....

[ivconic]

What really makes me angry and ready to post ugly posts is preparation i see at some people to defend one idea by attacking another idea. Instead of focusing on that own idea and giving more real arguments to support it. It is so called "thesis switching" and that psychologic phenomena is more and more procurated nowdays. I really do not come here with intentions to argue and make enemies. Quite oposite; i am coming here to share experiences, to learn and make more friends. That is reason more why i do not understand such platitudinous human behavior. That is also a thing that makes me more angry and more ready to react in such rude manner, i did few times so far. I am very sorry cose of that. I should listen my friend Quiaozhi better and simply disregard simillar provocations. But than, if question is pointed directly on my name and i dont react and answer, those who ask such questions will get more wrong ideas.....
Whatever man do simply can not straight up some things in life!
Getsa, Magma...fellas, i am sorry; but do not ask me anymore questions here. Do not point anything on my name. I will simply disregard any furhter comment on this subject.
Regards!

[Magma]

Sory , but I was nothing ask before. I claim own opinion , or not?
Regards

[dino]

Gospodo detektomani, nesto smo se uspavali. Nije valjda ovaj domaci detektor zasluzio da ga zakopamo ima i u njemu nesto dobro, ako nista drugo barem je nas ( domaci). Pozdrav svima na sajtu.

[Qiaozhi]

Gospodo detektomani, nesto smo se uspavali. Nije valjda ovaj domaci detektor zasluzio da ga zakopamo ima i u njemu nesto dobro, ako nista drugo barem je nas ( domaci). Pozdrav svima na sajtu.

Please post in English.

Gentlemen detektomani, something we uspavali. I guess this is not domestic detector zasluzio to zakopamo has something good in him, if nothing else at least our (domestic). Hello to anyone on the site.

As you can see, even using a translator it comes out as blabbish!

[ivconic]

Gospodo detektomani, nesto smo se uspavali. Nije valjda ovaj domaci detektor zasluzio da ga zakopamo ima i u njemu nesto dobro, ako nista drugo barem je nas ( domaci). Pozdrav svima na sajtu.

Babel fish....that's why it was called "Babel" at first place!

"Gentleman detectorists, are we getting sleepy for some reson? Hopefully this domestic detector didn't deserved to be burried, there are some values in it, if nothing else; at least it is our (domestic). Regards to all members."

So.. i disagree here only on one thing; "domestic".....it is not domestic and it is not product of local intelectual work. This detector (hybrid) is "intelectual product" of some bulgarian guy(s). Dating from long time ago.
I remember i saw first copies in late '90.
Also i remember those first copies came directly from east of Bulgaria. So...
Further...i dont see why, but most of people still dont want to realize it is not original and unique?? It is simple modifications of Fisher 1225 or 1236 with some stages taken from White's Classic plus some minor mods...
So...how can anybody claim it was "domestic"??
I made dozen versions of Tesoro Golden Sabre. Many modifications. Yet i never said it was my intelectual work or "domestic"!?? It is still intelectual work and idea came from Tesoro and i am just ordinary copyright-er enthusiast and hobbyst....
Yet i agree with rest; this idea is interesting and detectors made by this schematic are pretty usefull. So it would be good this subject to be more detailed. More hints and tips. More mods also.
And of course, to keep all the members involved and informed, better to post all the infos on English language.
Regards!