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  • Hi Dirceu, so if you made the radial coil, how did you place the shield?
    In my case i used alusa foil with good results. So now when i finish the radial coil, i think i will just wrap the coil with alusa. What do you think?
    Kind regards
    Nelson


    Originally posted by DIRCEU View Post
    Hi! NELSON

    I made my coil with 19cm ID cause is more sensitive at small objects presents at beach(jewelry). You can make large coils respecting the resistence and Inductance as I said. OK! my friend??

    Best regards
    DIRCEU

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    • Originally posted by nelson View Post
      Hi Dirceu, so if you made the radial coil, how did you place the shield?
      In my case i used alusa foil with good results. So now when i finish the radial coil, i think i will just wrap the coil with alusa. What do you think?
      Kind regards
      Nelson
      HI! NELSON

      Give me other e-mail. I don't like outlook express.

      DIRCEU

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      • Hi my friend i had just reply your private massage.
        But i can give another email too, this is [email protected]
        And my main email is [email protected]
        Regards
        Nelson


        Originally posted by DIRCEU View Post
        HI! NELSON

        Give me other e-mail. I don't like outlook express.

        DIRCEU

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        • I did a funny experiment. I made a coil from 0,4 insulated cable ( utp).The coil 23 turns 20cm diameter. 1euro and 1 euro cent I tried it. It 2-3cm better reasult, than same coil from cuzz wire! It means the problems is capacities of coil and because of this good the flat coil, because less additional capacity arises there.

          http://www.66pacific.com/calculators/coil_calc.aspx

          (not the best calculator) the best result of induktance, onto 1-2 cm of depth

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          • Originally posted by nelson View Post
            Hi my friend i had just reply your private massage.
            But i can give another email too, this is [email protected]
            And my main email is [email protected]
            Regards
            Nelson
            Hi! NELSON

            Do you received my E-mail???

            Regards
            DIRCEU

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            • Yes Dirceu, i has just send you an email.
              Many thanks
              Nelson

              Originally posted by DIRCEU View Post
              Hi! NELSON

              Do you received my E-mail???

              Regards
              DIRCEU

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              • Hi! NELSON

                How is your work with SURFMASTER???

                Regards
                DIRCEU

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                • Today i finish my radial coil. This is 185.8 uH and 1.2 ohms. Just tested on my lab and results are not to good jet. Tell me did you change the dumping resistor value?
                  Regards
                  Nelson
                  PD the coil is 19 cms, 22 turns

                  Originally posted by DIRCEU View Post
                  Hi! NELSON

                  How is your work with SURFMASTER???

                  Regards
                  DIRCEU

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                  • Originally posted by nelson View Post
                    Today i finish my radial coil. This is 185.8 uH and 1.2 ohms. Just tested on my lab and results are not to good jet. Tell me did you change the dumping resistor value?
                    Regards
                    Nelson
                    PD the coil is 19 cms, 22 turns

                    Hi! NELSON

                    Yes! the definitive value for dumping resistor is 370 Ohms (for me).
                    Put a trimmer instead of resistor and adjust for obtain max distance from target.

                    Regards
                    DIRCEU

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                    • Ok, so just a small diference from 390 ohms to 370 ohms, correct the sensitivity.
                      Is good to know that. I will experiment with a trimmer, take the best resistance value and then replace with correct resistor.
                      later i will let you know my results.
                      Thanks a lot and have a nice day.
                      Kind regards
                      Nelson



                      Originally posted by DIRCEU View Post
                      Hi! NELSON

                      Yes! the definitive value for dumping resistor is 370 Ohms (for me).
                      Put a trimmer instead of resistor and adjust for obtain max distance from target.

                      Regards
                      DIRCEU

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                      • In my experiences there are some interaction among coil parameters, cable, capacitor (1000uF) and dumping resistor. For example I tried 4000uF and gave a bad result. Maybe need to change the offset. It’s very difficult.

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                        • Hi Dirceu, i just made the coil you did, and star to play with trimmer has a dumpping resistor, selecting values from 280 to 450 ohms and the detector works good btw 310 and 400. Sencitivity noted smal increments,but never has you got. Best performance was 360 ohms, a 1.8 cms compper coin was detected at 22 cms, this on my lab, i don´t know if results may be beather wint the unit assembled and on the field.
                          By the way i ll make another surfmaster to see if i can get beather on it.
                          Regards
                          Nelson


                          Originally posted by DIRCEU View Post
                          Hi! NELSON

                          Yes! the definitive value for dumping resistor is 370 Ohms (for me).
                          Put a trimmer instead of resistor and adjust for obtain max distance from target.

                          Regards
                          DIRCEU

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                          • Originally posted by nelson View Post
                            Hi Dirceu, i just made the coil you did, and star to play with trimmer has a dumpping resistor, selecting values from 280 to 450 ohms and the detector works good btw 310 and 400. Sencitivity noted smal increments,but never has you got. Best performance was 360 ohms, a 1.8 cms compper coin was detected at 22 cms, this on my lab, i don´t know if results may be beather wint the unit assembled and on the field.
                            By the way i ll make another surfmaster to see if i can get beather on it.
                            Regards
                            Nelson
                            Hi! NELSON


                            Do You adjust the off-set trimer?
                            I change my magnetic earphone by one piezo and 220pF capacitor instead 1 kpF (C9 in original schematic).
                            All distances of targets related for me refers at final audio detection (only a small "click").

                            Regards
                            Dirceu.

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                            • What does C9?
                              Nelson



                              Originally posted by DIRCEU View Post
                              Hi! NELSON


                              Do You adjust the off-set trimer?
                              I change my magnetic earphone by one piezo and 220pF capacitor instead 1 kpF (C9 in original schematic).
                              All distances of targets related for me refers at final audio detection (only a small "click").

                              Regards
                              Dirceu.

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                              • Originally posted by nelson View Post
                                What does C9?
                                Nelson
                                Hi! NELSON

                                Does 15 us delay.

                                DIRCEU

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