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  • Thinking of starting a new PI build, got some questions

    Hi,

    Now with my first detector project almost finished, I feel like it's time to move on to a next one

    Not decided much on the way it will work, but I want to improve (compared to 1st one) the detection depth and investigate the possibility to discrimination. The soil around here does not seem to be too mineralized, so I don't know if ground balance will be of any benefit, but might want to incorporate that as well. Also need to study more the differential front end scheme, if it would prove any significant improvement. It looks like it should not be too hard with a bifiliar wound coil.

    I've been reading these forums to some degree, but the information seems scattered through here and there, sometimes with confusing results too. So I'd appreciate if you could help with a few things.

    1st of all, how does discrimination information present itself in the decay waveform? I like to work with digital stuff, so thinking in the lines of a fast AD-converter + enough computing power to crunch the numbers.. Then about the ground balance, how does the whole thing generally work? From what I've gathered, the ground "level" is sampled, and deduced from the target signal, to get targer responce ignoring ground. But at what stage of the decay curve is the ground sampling taken?

    If you could help answer these, or point to a project where these have been implemented in practice and documented, that would be even better.

    Anyways, for starters I want to start tinkering with the coil, and other bits associated. By the looks of things it seems the most effective way would be to go for a lower turn count, but high amperage coil.. To get the fastest possible coil quenching versus. induced magnetic flux. Of course, that creates the problem of finding a high amperage, high voltage coil switch. Maybe investigate the suitability of an IGBT switch?

    Looks like lots of fun right from the beginning =)

  • #2
    Hi janne
    what the first detector project finished ?,what the next?
    all u write good- but the detection depth Does not depend only on coil or its drive a high amperage, high voltage coil switch,of an IGBT switch,It depends on the design of the project and sensitivity and this requires,,,,,,,,,,,design.
    ****So there are many projects******
    best time
    j.

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    • #3
      There are no easy answers. Build a PI with 2 independent sampling channels, then play around with the timings to see how targets and ground react. It's also interesting to intentionally bandwidth-limit the preamp.

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      • #4
        Thanks for your replies. I guess nothing beats experimenting and finding it out first hand by yourself.. So frontend first and more o-scoping after that.
        After I started this thread I noticed the other thread about the new book.. Will prolly get that so it might be a while before I get around building anything or getting any more thoughts.

        jap: the first project was this machine; http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showt...-s-PI-detector

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        • #5
          bulgarian PD3200 is may be good. later was also PD3600. there is only schematic and test hex, without disc, but good point to start.

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