ONLY GOLD DETECTOR

[Chester Park]

Hi,

We're waiting. Machine only detects gold and his alloys. Isn't a scam!! The inventor chief (who write this e-mail and messages on forum is his assistant) works in electronic long range detectors during 43 years (since 1959). The invention don't born by chance. Any can fly to my country to confirm all this?

Best regards

[Carl]

Re: ONLY GOLD DETECTOR

I seriously doubt you will get anyone at all interested in your project using this approach. There have been similar devices offered that have turned out to be scams.

If you have a real product that does what you say it does, then you will need present more than a few uninformative posts on an obscure forum. Maybe some pics, maybe a decent description of the operation (without, of course, giving away any IP), maybe some credentials. After 43 years, the inventor surely has references, and other products.

- Carl

[Chester Park]

Re: ONLY GOLD DETECTOR

Hi,

Doubt protects you and protects alls.

We think: this isn't a obscure forum. We think: it's the cream of geotechnological/metal locator forum.

How inventor would have references, if live in an obscure country?

We don't have permission to do description of the operation's mode. Only this: detections are indicates by an audio signal alarm.

Sure, inventor have other interesting devices.

The question of the millennium: How USA have the capability to fly for all the space and can't detects a little any metal coin at 1 m depth by electronic methods? Or this is a sealed/shielded secret?

Give us a hand. Say us who, how corporation, any person, investors, have conditions to finance the manufacture of this device. We prefer manufacture in USA, UK, Australia, NZ, Canada or european countries such as France, Germany, Italy, Spain, etc.

Don't forget the Doctor Gerald Bull's affaire. Your government and civilizated governments (this is, First World nations) around the world ignores him and... you know the rest of history. We're scare. We don't wish sell this invention for other countries benefit. Thanks for all. Sorry my english.

Best regards

[Sean Goddard]

Re: ONLY GOLD DETECTOR

I have to agree with Carl on this one.

As an Electronics Engineer of some 20 years experience, I have seen more than my fair share of LRL devices, and to be honest, anyone who could claim that the circuit inside 99% of them actually DID anything other than flatten the battery VERY SLOWLY (if at all), was a LIAR.

Now I'm not saying that about your good self of course, just that so many have seen these devices which claim to detect metals using "energy fields", that we know it has NO SCIENTIFIC or Engineering credibility at all.

So YES, I'd love to help you if your idea was explained, and no doubt so would lots of others. But you've honestly got no hope of convincing anyone to take you seriously.

I am REALLY sorry, but once bitten is twice shy.

[Carl]

Re: ONLY GOLD DETECTOR

Sorry, but your info is way too vague to get me (or probably anyone else) interested. If your device is truly worthwhile, I suggest you buy an airline ticket and arrange for a visit to a few metal detector manufacturers. At least one or two would probably buy you a ticket if you can show enough detail to make them certain it's not a sham.

You might also try the TreasureNet LRL forum, I know there are a few people there who will send money for just about anything.

- Carl



TreasureNet LRL Forum

[Chester Park]

Re: ONLY GOLD DETECTOR

Hi, forum

People wish explanation about HOW WORKS THE DEVICE. We say: This isn't a FREE INFORMATION. Circuits are easy to build. Any person with some knowledge in electronics can do it. I remember Mark Knopfler's theme: "Money for nothing". I will do a paraphrasis: "Information for nothing". Eric Foster, for example, reveal all about PI technics??? NO!!!

Your engineer position don't give the permission to minimize other people investigations.

The apparatus don't work under the "energy fields" you mentioned. This is a SCIENTIFIC DEVICE. The principle is IONIZATION. For example, you know, water in movement generates ionization.

(Learn more about technics and forgoten principles in old physics/electricity books. The "new education" don't have all the true. I "only" have 42 years, but I read old books. We do many experiments with new components like IGBT, etc., but we don't forget other technics. If our device is possible, in part, is for USA: thanks for all your inventions!!!)

Don't worry. With our apparatus, your metal locator's industries isn't under the risk of the end. Always, people will need "normal" metal locators to find the targets because this device have a 45 degree "angle error". Too, when the target is out of the excaved earth.

We need serious investors in this enterprise. USA and other development countries have the possibility to make this revolutionary detector.

Thanks

[Dave Johnson (a.k.a.]

PRINCIPLE OF OPERATION?

It is possible, in principle, to detect a buried coin by inducing currents into the soil, and then detecting the harmonic distortion (or time domain equivalent) caused by electrolytic polarization at the metal-soil interface. This is, of course "ionization", would not necessarily pinpoint the actual location of the coin, and would be ineffective for a non-buried coin.

HOWEVER, it seems that the current density needed to achieve this would be extremely high, for two reasons: 1. Achieving sufficient voltage drop across the soil the coin is contacting, to produce electrolytic polarization; and 2. The symmetry of the coin-soil interface would greatly reduce the available voltage gradients.

We have seen "LRL" apparatus the purported principle of operation of which has something to do with ionization. Upon examination, the supposed science was nothing but imaginative advertising having nothing to do with real science. So if Mr. Park wishes his apparatus to be taken seriously, he will find it necessary to clearly distinguish his apparatus from pseudoscientific LRL apparatus, some of which claims to be based on an ionization principle.

If Mr. Park is looking for investors in genuine scientifically engineered apparatus, he will need to provide the investors information which will show that the apparatus is not of a non-engineered kind such as is the case with most "long distance locating" apparatus. One way to provide information regarding the genuine scientific nature of the product, is through a nondisclosure contract, something almost all professional inventors/designers are familiar with.

Mr. Park's prior association with LRL equipment does not provide grounds for optimism. However, once in a while someone does come up with something genuinely new in the field of detection, and if Mr. Park has done this, I wish him well.

--Dave J.

[Dave J. (a.k.a.]

GOLD ONLY?

Most metal detection apparatus does not reliably distinguish between buried gold and other nonferrous metals. However, there are methods involving physical contact with the metal object, which can determine something about composition. The Goldspear is said to work on the principle of contact potential, and although I know little about it, it might be able to tell gold from other metals.

The claim of "gold only" naturally arouses skepticism, when no plausible scientific principle for such a claim is offered. My prior post "principle of operation?" does not appear to offer a method for distinguishing gold from other metals.

--Toto

[Dave J.]

IONIZING RADIATION?

After reading some of Mr. Park's other posts, his apparatus is sounding more like genuine apparatus and less like dowsing/LRL stuff. I am particularly encouraged to read that the antennas are fixed and that the detection depths being claimed are consistent with apparatus having a basis in physics, and do not partake of the kind of depth/distance claims we often see in relation to dowsing/LRL apparatus.

It is possible that the result claimed (selectivity to gold) could be achieved using apparatus which relies on ionizing radiation. If this is the principle of operation, it would not be suitable for sale to the general public, because operators would have to be licensed by the government (at least in the U.S.A.). It might, however, prove to be a valuable method of geophysical prospecting and archeological investigation, where the services of a licensed operator could be afforded.

--Dave J.

[Chester Park]

Re: PRINCIPLE OF OPERATION?

Hi,

PLEASE, read here all my messages, question of people and my replies under the titles:

- GOLD DETECTOR

- WE'RE WAITING

- ONLY GOLD DETECTOR

The device isn't LRL system. Is totally electronic. We insist: only detects gold and is alloys: 12, 14, 16, 18, 20, 22 k.

We're working to perfect the machine with intention to detect at more distance.

Thanks.

[Sean Goddard]

Re: PRINCIPLE OF OPERATION?

OK Chester,

Send me a copy of your confidentiality agreement, THEN we'll see if what you have is worth investing in.

BTW, I had NO intention of belittling your abilities, it's just that with so many other devices making claims that they have no hope of fulfilling in this sector of the market, most people are VERY sceptical of yet another.

Until I have seen what you have on offer, then I remain one of them, but that DOES NOT MEAN that you might not have actually managed to make something that REALLY works!

I wish you luck.

[Tim]

Re: ONLY GOLD DETECTOR

GUys check this out. This may be whats goning on with this gold thing.

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TIm

[jamshid]

Re: ONLY GOLD DETECTOR

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[G.X.R 1000]

Hi,

PLEASE, read here all my messages, question of people and my replies under the titles:

- GOLD DETECTOR

- WE'RE WAITING

- ONLY GOLD DETECTOR

The device isn't LRL system. Is totally electronic. We insist: only detects gold and is alloys: 12, 14, 16, 18, 20, 22 k.

We're working to perfect the machine with intention to detect at more distance.

Thanks.

[J_Player]

Hi Chester Park, guest,

Please do not be discouraged by other people in tech forum who doubt. I believe you. I Know your detector can find only gold and various alloys. I know the inventor chief has 43 years experince in electronics LRL. I know that there will be an audio signal alarm whenever I come near gold with this new detector. I do not want to know the secrets of how the detector works. I only want to get rich from finding gold.

I am happy to pay thousands of US dollars to you and the inventor so I can be the first to have this new technology that will find only gold. I need only to see the detector find some gold without tricks, then I am ready for investing lots of money. Please email me and tell me where I can see this detector that I will invest thousands of US dollars for. (email J_Player59 at hotmail.com)

J_P