Makro CF77 Coin Finder

[battlecircus10]

I would like to ask the opinion of some of you wise people about this detector; theMakro Cf77. I remember reading some of the learned opinions and experiences regarding the Blisstool V3 and V2 for example. In my personal experience with one of these - it was virtually unusable for general detecting purposes and requires specific sites and lots of patience and adjustments to get good results from it.

So, most of the statements regarding the Blisstool and it's extreme depth claims being "party tricks" were in my view, correct. I know the Blisstool requires a lot of tweaking to get good results and I know some people do get on with them. I didn't for sure. So, I am wondering if anyone has experience with this Makro detector as there are some extreme depth claims with this one too. Is this just another "too good to be true" detector as the price is pretty incredible if it does what they say it does.

Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance.

[ivconic]

I would like to ask the opinion of some of you wise people about this detector; theMakro Cf77. I remember reading some of the learned opinions and experiences regarding the Blisstool V3 and V2 for example. In my personal experience with one of these - it was virtually unusable for general detecting purposes and requires specific sites and lots of patience and adjustments to get good results from it.

So, most of the statements regarding the Blisstool and it's extreme depth claims being "party tricks" were in my view, correct. I know the Blisstool requires a lot of tweaking to get good results and I know some people do get on with them. I didn't for sure. So, I am wondering if anyone has experience with this Makro detector as there are some extreme depth claims with this one too. Is this just another "too good to be true" detector as the price is pretty incredible if it does what they say it does.

Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance.

Few months ago a man from my place bought Velox One.
I expected much from it, because i was delighted with what i saw earlier on Youtube presentations.

Well... Velox One turns to be complete disaster later on testing field!

This one, Makro Cf77 most probably is double disaster!

Overall; Velox One showed performances as majority of "almighty" hand made detectors, so wildly advertised, mostly via Youtube and small forums.
Other words; every cent given over 200e for it is complete robbery!
And what was it's price!?
First it was 1000e and later it was bought for 800e with two coils.
Wasted money!

[battlecircus10]

Thanks for your reply.

Yes, I was thinking that the "too good to be true" syndrome was presenting itself yet again too.

[battlecircus10]

Deus it is then I think.

[ivconic]

Deus it is then I think.

I was just about to write that!
Some people will take me as annoying, repeating so many times this; but Deus is best buy so far.
For less money any other XP will do just fine. XP Gold Max Power is my next favorite.
And Gmaxx is the third on the list.
Pick your favorite and go for it, don't waste time on other stuff.

[battlecircus10]

Thanks, good advice - just ordered one. Kind regards.

[WM6]

Well... Velox One turns to be complete disaster later on testing field!

After all praise and swear an oath from some Velox One user I am surprised to read such review.

Can be something more specific what exactly was flaw with it?

[ivconic]

After all praise and swear an oath from some Velox One user I am surprised to read such review.

Can be something more specific what exactly was flaw with it?

It would need me to prepare and post full field report on Velox One, which is too late now, anyway.
I lost any possible interest in such things.
It was several months ago, when neighbor bought it.
So Velox was taken to testing field with lot of previously prepared targets.
The very same testing field served so far to test dozen other models in the past, under same conditions, on same targets.
So on the very first testing Velox performed much worse in all the aspects, much different than what we saw on Youtube advertises.
It is unstable, producing lot of random falses, detections are with short delay, so you are unable to distinguish the center of detection (same problem as on some cheap models from China).
And for the end: it is not that deep as it was advertised on videos.
By behavior and all the drawbacks Velox showed than; it strongly reminds me on Bulgarian Golden Mask series.
Same story; all those GM models are same disaster on real field and under real conditions.
Now, to be more precise: i am not saying Velox is Golden Mask copy nor variation, no way i am not saying that because i never opened neither one of
those, because after seeing how those are working: i lost any desire and interest to examine those more detailed!
I am only saying Velox is the same way disaster as Golden Mask.
It is useless on soils where Deus rules. Hard infested and polluted soils with a lot of iron trash and hard mineralization.
It can be good only on clean and uniform soils.
I guess that's the trick promoters used when did those promotional videos for Youtube.
If you look a bit more closer and with attention: you will actually see very simple and uniform soil where that bracelet is placed in hole and later detected with Velox at 70cm depth, if i remember good.
Yes it was pretty uniform soil. "Lite" soil. Piece of cake for any other detector too.
Velox is maybe good enough for locating larger objects on uniform and clean soils, but it is definitely real disaster for my kind of searching and my kind of habits i am having here.
I would not be surprised if someone from Sahara or Gobi come up here with excellent reports on Velox, Golden Mask, Blisstool and similar "sheet"...

[battlecircus10]

Well, I know in my experience with the Blisstool, I found exactly the same problems; fantastic Air-Test results but on any of my sites, I could not get the machine to run at all smoothly unless the sensitivity and ground balancing was tuned to such an extent that it resulted in the detector being about as useful as my old C-Scope TR440. I was annoyed at having spent all that money on a detector which I really didn't have a specific site for. I mean, it would even sound off over "cold" rocks, never mind hot rocks.lol And I do know, that some people do get results from them, no doubt, but for me it was a real turn-off.
There are now a few people who in my mind, are well respected in the various forums, giving wonderful demonstrations of the CF77. The recent issue of Treasure Hunting magazine has an article with the field test of the machine and it, too suggests that it will give the big manufacturers a run for it's money. Apart from these, I can not find anything on the machine except from what is shown by the company itself.

[WM6]

Well, I know in my experience with the Blisstool, I found exactly the same problems; fantastic Air-Test results but on any of my sites, I could not get the machine to run at all smoothly unless the sensitivity and ground balancing was tuned to such an extent that it resulted in the detector being about as useful (as an old BFO - WM6 remark) .

Exactly the same experience with another Turkis brand/model Atlantis Imperator.

[ivconic]

Well, I know in my experience with the Blisstool, I found exactly the same problems; fantastic Air-Test results but on any of my sites, I could not get the machine to run at all smoothly unless the sensitivity and ground balancing was tuned to such an extent that it resulted in the detector being about as useful as my old C-Scope TR440. I was annoyed at having spent all that money on a detector which I really didn't have a specific site for. I mean, it would even sound off over "cold" rocks, never mind hot rocks.lol And I do know, that some people do get results from them, no doubt, but for me it was a real turn-off.
There are now a few people who in my mind, are well respected in the various forums, giving wonderful demonstrations of the CF77. The recent issue of Treasure Hunting magazine has an article with the field test of the machine and it, too suggests that it will give the big manufacturers a run for it's money. Apart from these, I can not find anything on the machine except from what is shown by the company itself.

Maybe those machines run smoothly on their sites there.
Maybe they are not aware that machines are not versatile enough to perform good on other types of soil.
Whatever the truth, you may lower chances to waste money again by investing in something more reliable, something made by some of world leading manufacturers, proven and reliable.
Pick any better model from any of those world leading manufacturers and you will not make mistake, that's for sure.

[golfnut]

The Technetics T2 is a good performer in uk soil. Pulls celtic gold well.

GMP is close to the Deus - there isnt much left behind by either machine = As they may say, Double the price for about an extra inch!


The deus is a flagship technology showcase with real perfomance behind the spaceship controls.

I would estimate 1/3rd of fanatic UK club users have a deus/


I see a few 3030's but the owners are often older and they swing them 6" above the ground - so they dont have to dig 12" down - figure that one?

Not many people use the Tesoro/Lasers any more and they dont sell real well.


The ML exploder II is a reasonable performer if your build like arnie.

New people to the hobby almost all buy a 250

A better one is the AT pro can be a bit sensitive as 17kHz and sees lead shot bit heavy - steel shaft etc


Had few hours out today with my homemade IDX running at 13kHz - with a NEL Hunter coil tacked on... not great but it wasnt $2000..



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[ivconic]

The Technetics T2 is a good performer in uk soil. Pulls celtic gold well.
GMP is close to the Deus - there isnt much left behind by either machine = As they may say, Double the price for about an extra inch!
The deus is a flagship technology showcase with real perfomance behind the spaceship controls.
I would estimate 1/3rd of fanatic UK club users have a deus/
I see a few 3030's but the owners are often older and they swing them 6" above the ground - so they dont have to dig 12" down - figure that one?
Not many people use the Tesoro/Lasers any more and they dont sell real well.
The ML exploder II is a reasonable performer if your build like arnie.
New people to the hobby almost all buy a 250
A better one is the AT pro can be a bit sensitive as 17kHz and sees lead shot bit heavy - steel shaft etc
Had few hours out today with my homemade IDX running at 13kHz - with a NEL Hunter coil tacked on... not great but it wasnt $2000..
S

I think 1/2 of all users in EU will switch on Deus in next few years. Deus became "must have" in people minds. It is worth of such desire, no doubts at all.
GMP is splendid. Newer Tesoros are cute.
ML is good but unduly expensive. All their present models are overrated and overpriced although those are nice machines.

"...they swing them 6" above the ground - so they dont have to dig 12" down..."
Splendid method! From now on i will practice it too!

[Funfinder]

Hi battlecircus10


please read:
http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showt...757#post174757

http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showt...139#post176139

or the complete topic.
The DeepHunter contains a similar (or the same) circuit as the CoinFinder CF77.

You also can watch this video from UK:
http://youtu.be/nJX90Q_xvXw

CF77 airtest results pdf
http://www.geotech1.com/forums/attac...2&d=1373609010

[Ism]

Thanks, good advice - just ordered one. Kind regards.

I think you will really like the Deus. Hope you ordered the 11" coil. Supposed to be a complete rework and get great depth. Give your Deus a chance, I was almost regretting the choice when I first got it, but once I got familiar I really saw its potential.