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2013-09-29 07:45 PM
battlecircus10 asks about CoinFinder CF77
2013-09-29 08:44 PM
battlecircus10 writes:
Thanks, good advice - just ordered one. Kind regards.
Within 1 hour the "good advice" convinced him while the 1000s hours before he had no idea what kind of detector
is good for him? And what a fantastic timing - directly a half hour after battlecircus10's question ivconic showed up
on the screen and wrote about his fantastic knowledge about how bad all those south-east-european detectors are
compared to the glorious XP Deus he bought now by itself after many hard years of "crap detectors".
Even WM6 found it suspect because he wrote: "After all praise and swear an oath from some Velox One user I am surprised to read such review."
What is this here - a fast food tip restaurant for ultra-hungry help-searchers who buy immediatly after 1 hour everything someone suggests them here?
Let's compare The XP Deus with the CoinFinder CF77:
by the way I know very well about the pro and cons about the Deus - there is a huge section about this detector in a german MD forum with many many threads.
The Deus is lightweight, has a nice LCD screen (almost comparable with iPhone Mini) and alot different settings. Usually it comes with one relative small coil
(27cm) and the larger coil (35cm) costs alot money, around 200 Euro. But as tests have shown this coil doesn't goes much deeper anyway. No wonder -
the coil uses and internal lightweight accu that doesn't has much capacity - it has to be recharged after max. 10 hours.
Such a weak battery of course can't create a powerful EM-field - its comparable with same weak and E-Smog picky one from the Garrett ACE 250 or Euro-Ace.
Usage:
Compared with the analog "background-chatter" of the CoinFinder CF77 the XP Deus can run completly silent and shows digital metal-values.
I wanna say it in an other fashion:
With the XP Deus you have fantastic clear signals from 0-20cm deep. Fine for persons who need this and don't care what is deeper - I'm speaking of coins and small stuff.
But with some experience and patience with the background noise the CoinFinder or the ca. 30% not so deep Blisstool you will detect much better!
Depth compare tests have shown that already the Blisstool is ca. 20% deeper than the XP Deus. By the way those are using different coil sizes -
the CoinFinder coils are 33cm and 45cm compared with the Deus 27cm and 35cm.
So for very small and just 20cm deep stuff the XP Deus may have the same good results but this is because it uses a smaller coil.
Handling:
The CoinFinder CF77 ist not as good as the XP Deus because there is alot weight to hold and the battery-belt-clip doesn't makes a big difference.
The best solution is the DeepHunter with its hang-around the neck electronic box and if the coil is mounted to a more lightweight holder than the standard one.
Depth:
If the Blisstool is already 20% deeper than the XP Deus the Coinfinder is minimum 50-60% deeper. Of course for people who go out of their comfort-zone
and can deal with some background-chatter. There is a huge difference between a loud and clear "coin bang signal" and the fainting but still good recognisable
"double-loud-background-chatter-signal" of a very deep find. But this is the difference in signal strenght a find in 20cm compared to find in 40cm creates.
The more mineralization and the more e-smog sensitivity the less depth will be possible.
I don't know how good the XP Deus works close nearby heavy e-smog sources but I guess it may be OK because the coil is pretty small.
But for larger and deeper finds the XP Deus may get into serious trouble already with its "medium large 35cm coil".
And of course the Deus will never get the same deep with its 35cm coil than the CoinFinder with the 45cm - so for real deep stuff
better buy a second detector if you must have the XP Deus.
The price is another question:
The Coinfinder incl. large 45cm coil is around 800-1000 Euro while the XP Deus incl. 35cm coil is around 1700 Euro.
Fazit:
The XP Deus only is for persons who want it very lightweight and more looking for coins and smaller stuff. Charging every day the accu
also must be no big issue for them and evtl. replacing the coils accu after 3-4 years also must be no big problem for them.
If the XP Deus creates the same crazy keyboard-beeping-concerts as the Garrett Ace if there is high e-smog nearby or if high sensitivity-settings
are in use it will be for shure much harder to detect something with such "ring-bing-trouble" as it is still relative good bearable and possible
with the CoinFinders analog background chatter.
The CoinFinder CF77 is a bit too heavy for longer search sessions, especially if the 45cm coil is used. The price is much more better or "fair".
Because of the larger coils even the CoinFinder with standard coil is already much deeper, with 45cm it is much more deeper than the XP Deus.
If you can handle weight & analog signals, with some experience the Coinfinder gives you double depht for the half price compared with the Deus.
Both MDs have no cavity or mineralized stone detection as the Blisstool has.
And better buy directly the Makro-Detector DeepHunter instead of the Coinfinder CF77 because that way you have the ultimate package
from ultra small finds up to super deep stuff and cavity with the 1m coil incl. very lightweight coil handling.
And finally a good advice to everyone and especially battlecircus10:
Time is money so always take enough time to collect really good enough information. 1 hour and a few opinions is much too short to find substancial needed info about certain metal detectors!
Knowledge is power! But there is always the second question: Are you powerful and skilled enough to handle very powerful or professional devices?
2013-09-29 07:45 PM
battlecircus10 asks about CoinFinder CF77
2013-09-29 08:44 PM
battlecircus10 writes:
Thanks, good advice - just ordered one. Kind regards.
Within 1 hour the "good advice" convinced him while the 1000s hours before he had no idea what kind of detector
is good for him? And what a fantastic timing - directly a half hour after battlecircus10's question ivconic showed up
on the screen and wrote about his fantastic knowledge about how bad all those south-east-european detectors are
compared to the glorious XP Deus he bought now by itself after many hard years of "crap detectors".
Even WM6 found it suspect because he wrote: "After all praise and swear an oath from some Velox One user I am surprised to read such review."
What is this here - a fast food tip restaurant for ultra-hungry help-searchers who buy immediatly after 1 hour everything someone suggests them here?
Let's compare The XP Deus with the CoinFinder CF77:
by the way I know very well about the pro and cons about the Deus - there is a huge section about this detector in a german MD forum with many many threads.
The Deus is lightweight, has a nice LCD screen (almost comparable with iPhone Mini) and alot different settings. Usually it comes with one relative small coil
(27cm) and the larger coil (35cm) costs alot money, around 200 Euro. But as tests have shown this coil doesn't goes much deeper anyway. No wonder -
the coil uses and internal lightweight accu that doesn't has much capacity - it has to be recharged after max. 10 hours.
Such a weak battery of course can't create a powerful EM-field - its comparable with same weak and E-Smog picky one from the Garrett ACE 250 or Euro-Ace.
Usage:
Compared with the analog "background-chatter" of the CoinFinder CF77 the XP Deus can run completly silent and shows digital metal-values.
I wanna say it in an other fashion:
With the XP Deus you have fantastic clear signals from 0-20cm deep. Fine for persons who need this and don't care what is deeper - I'm speaking of coins and small stuff.
But with some experience and patience with the background noise the CoinFinder or the ca. 30% not so deep Blisstool you will detect much better!
Depth compare tests have shown that already the Blisstool is ca. 20% deeper than the XP Deus. By the way those are using different coil sizes -
the CoinFinder coils are 33cm and 45cm compared with the Deus 27cm and 35cm.
So for very small and just 20cm deep stuff the XP Deus may have the same good results but this is because it uses a smaller coil.
Handling:
The CoinFinder CF77 ist not as good as the XP Deus because there is alot weight to hold and the battery-belt-clip doesn't makes a big difference.
The best solution is the DeepHunter with its hang-around the neck electronic box and if the coil is mounted to a more lightweight holder than the standard one.
Depth:
If the Blisstool is already 20% deeper than the XP Deus the Coinfinder is minimum 50-60% deeper. Of course for people who go out of their comfort-zone
and can deal with some background-chatter. There is a huge difference between a loud and clear "coin bang signal" and the fainting but still good recognisable
"double-loud-background-chatter-signal" of a very deep find. But this is the difference in signal strenght a find in 20cm compared to find in 40cm creates.
The more mineralization and the more e-smog sensitivity the less depth will be possible.
I don't know how good the XP Deus works close nearby heavy e-smog sources but I guess it may be OK because the coil is pretty small.
But for larger and deeper finds the XP Deus may get into serious trouble already with its "medium large 35cm coil".
And of course the Deus will never get the same deep with its 35cm coil than the CoinFinder with the 45cm - so for real deep stuff
better buy a second detector if you must have the XP Deus.
The price is another question:
The Coinfinder incl. large 45cm coil is around 800-1000 Euro while the XP Deus incl. 35cm coil is around 1700 Euro.
Fazit:
The XP Deus only is for persons who want it very lightweight and more looking for coins and smaller stuff. Charging every day the accu
also must be no big issue for them and evtl. replacing the coils accu after 3-4 years also must be no big problem for them.
If the XP Deus creates the same crazy keyboard-beeping-concerts as the Garrett Ace if there is high e-smog nearby or if high sensitivity-settings
are in use it will be for shure much harder to detect something with such "ring-bing-trouble" as it is still relative good bearable and possible
with the CoinFinders analog background chatter.
The CoinFinder CF77 is a bit too heavy for longer search sessions, especially if the 45cm coil is used. The price is much more better or "fair".
Because of the larger coils even the CoinFinder with standard coil is already much deeper, with 45cm it is much more deeper than the XP Deus.
If you can handle weight & analog signals, with some experience the Coinfinder gives you double depht for the half price compared with the Deus.
Both MDs have no cavity or mineralized stone detection as the Blisstool has.
And better buy directly the Makro-Detector DeepHunter instead of the Coinfinder CF77 because that way you have the ultimate package
from ultra small finds up to super deep stuff and cavity with the 1m coil incl. very lightweight coil handling.
And finally a good advice to everyone and especially battlecircus10:
Time is money so always take enough time to collect really good enough information. 1 hour and a few opinions is much too short to find substancial needed info about certain metal detectors!
Knowledge is power! But there is always the second question: Are you powerful and skilled enough to handle very powerful or professional devices?
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