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  • #76
    Are you sure that those cans are of same alloy everywhere (same conductivity)?

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    • #77
      To the Geotech Forum. (Inxlusief admin)


      If there are more people interested than geoscash1 and WM6 to see a short
      demonstration video of Detecting hypodermic needle using elliptical 11" coil with a IB VLF detector.
      Than I am willing to make that video.
      Let me know.


      regards Nupi

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      • #78
        Originally posted by Nupi View Post
        To the Geotech Forum. (Inxlusief admin)


        If there are more people interested than geoscash1 and WM6 to see a short
        demonstration video of Detecting hypodermic needle using elliptical 11" coil with a IB VLF detector.
        Than I am willing to make that video.
        Let me know.


        regards Nupi
        Yes please Nupi.
        A video would be interesting.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Nupi View Post
          To the Geotech Forum. (Inxlusief admin)


          If there are more people interested than geoscash1 and WM6 to see a short
          demonstration video of Detecting hypodermic needle using elliptical 11" coil with a IB VLF detector.
          Than I am willing to make that video.
          Let me know.


          regards Nupi
          I am interested too.
          Go for it!

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Nupi View Post
            Than I am willing to make that video.
            Can you make clear macro photo (with dimension remark) of hypodermic needle used in test too, and post it here? Thanks

            And on video, please, show first detailed how needles stick plastic ruler (please use transparent one!) and then how test perform.

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            • #81
              OK, I make it today.

              Make you ready to believe in "miracles".


              I will not disappoint you all.


              WM6, I'm going to do my best.


              nupi

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              • #82
                whether the test is related to the VLF or PI detectors ?

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by WM6 View Post
                  Are you sure that those cans are of same alloy everywhere (same conductivity)?
                  I'm more concerned about the can thickness, but it should also be consistent. If you see a symbol like these:
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                  It should be aluminium.

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Orbit View Post
                    whether the test is related to the VLF or PI detectors ?
                    There are differences because PI behaviour is related to a wide bandwidth, so thickness-related effects are more pronounced with PI, but basically the test should be the same.

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                    • #85
                      pi detectors with coil than 6 inches and inductance than 240mh - 300mh and sampling that 6us -21 us frequencies 1khz, successfully can detected hypodermic micro .

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                      • #86
                        These are the test samples for the MD test.

                        The used metal detector that I used for the test is, by myself, modified DeepTech Smart (IB) detector with aelliptical 11" frequency is 15-Khz I thought

                        I want to report some statements that some of us have said.

                        "Detecting small hypodermic needle using 11" coil with IB VLF detector (no matter of brand), we could really call a miracle.
                        Sorry, but I don't believe in such "miracle".

                        "A hypodermic needle could not be detected by a PI even when Eric Foster tried it with a 1us sample delay. The shape of the needle,
                        with its tiny cross-section, is unable to sustain eddy currents for long enough to be detectable. I would suggest that the only hope
                        of detecting these items is with a VLF running at a relatively high frequency...................."

                        "pi detectors with coil than 6 inches and inductance than 240mh - 300mh and sampling that 6us -21 us frequencies 1khz,
                        successfully can detected hypodermic micro"

                        Maybe these are already some discussion points.

                        The video comes tonight.

                        Nupi.





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                        • #87
                          Looking forward!



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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by WM6 View Post
                            Are you sure that those cans are of same alloy everywhere (same conductivity)?
                            Yes, for all purposes the alloys used are well defined because of the deep drawing manufacturing processes

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                            • #89
                              Thanks for good presentation of testing samples, nupi.

                              Blood pricker / insulin needles are out of my interest, but OK, if you chose: more - better.

                              My primary interest is testing chosen hypodermic needle:
                              NN-2613R
                              Brown
                              26Gx1/2”
                              0.45 x 12 mm
                              Regular wall

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                              • #90
                                I want to apologize for the poor quality of the video.

                                I thought my camera was broken but that is not so,
                                because the quality of the video from the borrowed camera is just bad.
                                The problem lies on my Laptop. When transferring the video from the camera's to the Laptop
                                becomes blurry and of poor quality.


                                Does anyone have any idea what it could be?


                                I hope you can see well enough.

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