Any 1 heared/tried Deepmax Z1 or Geo Examiner?

[Ihsan]

Hello

I've been Looking for the last few years for a good legit Earth Imaging 3D Detector, that can cover up to 10m deep, but i've reached a PERSONAL OPINION, that NO such detector/technology exists at the time-being (regardless what some companies claims to have).

Yes Minelab,Garette and some others do have a good detectors, but those are shallow 1-2m deep pulse detectors.

I wanted to ask if any1 heard about Lorenz DeepMax Z1 or Geo Examiner ?

Best Regards

[kt315]

ill begin to believe in Alla'h first if there will be a cover up gold plate 15x15cm 10m deep.

[Ihsan]

I thought this forum concerns detectors and related stuff like coils, magnetometers… not a religious forum, or even a racist forum which clearly appears from your tune and using the word ALLA’H instead of GOD.

Anyway your believes or faith are of your concern and I didn’t ask about those! Not everyone is looking for shallow stuff, Personally, if I can buy a deep detector (if it exists) why would I go for less! Yes it’s all a matter of use and need.

Many might think I’m exaggerating when I said I’m looking for a detector that covers up to 10m deep, but Middle east region had its share of ancient civilizations that used to bury stuff 2-5m deep depending on the civilization, not to mention the environmental conditions (floods, wind and sand movement) thousands of years either increasing or decreasing that depth, usually it increased it.
Most of Egypt knows discoveries were underground, they even made new discovery in the 2011 http://www.bbc.com/news/world-13522957 I’m not looking that deep, but still recent excavations at North of Jordan are revealing a small city 9m deep underground.

So a quick look at Middle East ancient history/civilizations can give a clue.

Now concerning my question about deepmax Z1 or Geo examiner is because I had the chance to use Deepmax (used coil covers 4m deep) at 1 of my properties which I have a reasonable doubt it might include something, it gave me real interesting results, I didn’t jump to start excavations or anything (because as I said before, I think such technology doesn’t exists yet) but still I didn’t let it go, that’s why I tried the forum to check if any 1 have a clue, as the manufacturer company doesn’t help explaining maps.

[Ihsan]

The attachment shows the interesting result i had, the rectangular shapes (uniform engineering shapes doesn't look a natural thing).

I'm not trying to advertise for a detector brand over here, simply the Detector and the software have some sensitivity/filtering mods that can affect the results, so i'm asking if any 1 heard about it (legit or not) or used it, to figure out if i used it (set the calibrations) properly.


P.S: Sorry if the pic isn't clear enough, i just used my phone to take it.

[Orbit]

talk to Serbian !
and stop to pretend have three to four
names on the forum I can not imagine such people !

[Ihsan]

Orbit, i don't know if i understood you properly, but if you accusing me of having multiply accounts, then you truly don't have a clue at all, this is a forum to discuss, not a game to use diff accounts to help/add a certain 1.

and i do challenge the admins here to prove or show i have more than this account.

Was just a simple question i asked about 2 detectors!

[Funfinder]

Hi Ihsan,

I think you have asked a good technical question and I'm interested in arabic treasure hunting stuff, too.
With all the sand and sunken cities including deeply buried tombs of course a very good technology is needed.
Often the new cities have been built straight upon the old ones at hills etc. so 2-3meters depth can occure very fast.

Personally I don't have the Lorenz DeepMax Z1 but you can get info here and I heard it works really deep and
the depth values are really true:
http://www.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nuggets.at%2FLORENZ-Z1-Z-1-DeepMax-Gold-Metalldetektor&langpair=de|en&hl=de&ie=UTF8

Depending on the coil size it is deep for larger objects or not so deep but can find smaller stuff with smaller coils.

But the Deepmax is very expensive, especially if you want the additional visual 3d imaging software and it uses P.I.
(pulse induction technology) which has not the best metal-discrimination and can not find cavities!

A good alternative for very deep stuff so for you also could be the new DeepHunter from Makro Group from Turkey:
http://www.makrodetector.com/
which is a super detector also with 1meter coil and visual display where you even can analyze the depth of the finds
and much more. It can find cavity as well and you can discriminate iron stuff much better.
It also comes with a 2in1 circuit, you can work with non-motion and motion induction balance and the price
is also not that high as for the Deepmax.

For alot info read this thread here and ask me there if you wanna know more:
http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showt...Cavity-Finder-!

I personally have the predecessor model Jeohunter and the DeepHunter and I have worked with them very often very successful.

For such professional detectors you need some experience first to know them good enough and get the best results out of them.
This is not so easy as if you use a Garrett Ace or other little MDs. It also depends how "complicated" is the region where you are
hunting. With a P.I. you better not go to sites that are full of old war-relics otherwise you may find the whole day 80% just those,
because of the not very good discrimination. And even with a 1m P.I. coil you can find already 10cm stuff if its just 10cm deep.

Another option are expensive 3D imaging magnetometers but those are very sensitive for ferro-magnetic and steel stuff, too.
They can show old buried ruins or cavities under good conditions, but I wouldn't use them if I wanna find noble metal.

Good luck.

[Ihsan]

Hello FunFinder and thanks for the feedback and information.

I had the chance of using deepmax Z1 because one of my friends bought it, and i did read the catalog and all the info i could find before using it, so i do have some clue about it (my testing result was attached, which is the 3D logger software), problem is mainly identifying the sensitivity/filtering needed which do affects the results , as the software itself doesn't have any catalog (not like the hardware).

Yes the detector itself and also the software, both have some sensitivity and filtering mods, i did use the correct calibration and all other mods.

Anyway, i'm going on a business trip for the next 4 days, i'll check marko group products when i'm back, Thanks again.

Best Regards

[Funfinder]

Hi Ihsan,

such 3D imagining programs can cause troubles.
But 1st: 10m depth you only will get with proton- or nuclear-magnetometers on ferro-magnetical stuff from sunken ships etc.

I don't know exactly the filter-settings that are possible but first for shure you need a good calibration so you have
a clear center-region without any signals.

Those pictures are nice but usually a simple 2D image is absolutly enough if it shows useful find-results.
One problem by using such stuff is that afterwards you still have to start to remove all kind of small finds first.
So often its much better to clean first with an usual MD the area and afterwards you check out the real depths.

For magnetometer-based detectors such an imagine-software is useful, but not really for P.I. detectors
which can't find cavity or other anomalies.
This is just an extremly overpriced P.I. which I would only use with the lightweight 50cm coil if the discrimination
and the depth is really super good, otherwise I would not use P.I. because P.I. discrimination and discovery speed
is much worse as with other detectors. But if you still have the possibility to test it, I would bury stuff really deep
for finding out by personal tests how good it really detects them with the 1m and 50cm coil and what exactly is
shown on the imagine pictures.

btw. I found out that Makro Group meanwhile also offers great pinpointers and you'll absolutly need a good pinpointer, too!
http://www.makrodetector.com/makro-p...-detector.html

I have modified already the Garrett Pro-Pointer so it will be interesting how sensitive the new one from Makro Detector
already without any mod is - it comes with 5 different sensitivity and other settings, which sounds already very promising.

[YIVANKA]