large mass detection system and cavities with a manufacturing model and rendering 2D.

[Bigstarman]

Is this a special ukrainian Easyrad
compared to those from Germany?
+38 phone area code is Khmelnytskiy, UA.

Team Easyrad is becoming more and more.

Of course it would be good if it has english language, too

All programs for Easyrad GPR in English available.
We are ready to do the software in any language, if the need be.

and if its connectable with a lightweight tablet PC or smart-phone.

No, no.
Small screen's bad to work in real time.
On the glossy screen, you will see yourself and the sun, and not profile the radargram.

Otherwise walking with the detector in one and some laptop
in the other hand could become a little bit complicated.
With a laptop it would need two persons for live-hunt
because it's already big enough for geting detected.

No difficulty. I have a great deal left hand with all modes of program and even have time to draw a schematic in the graphical editor. GPR wear in the right hand.
We've tried a lot of options. Today won Panasonic CF-19 (MK3, MK4, ...). Convenient belt suspension. Sufficient screen size. Not the glossy matrix. A vivid image.
Winter sleeve I wiped off the snow screen and continue to work. ))))))))

[Funfinder]

> Winter sleeve I wiped off the snow screen and continue to work. ))))))))

That's real treasure-hunting! Strong persons with tough equipment.


btw. it would be great if the software can create audio-signals if the
usual screen-signal changes to more disturbed or even totally different.

Some kind of auto-detection of: "there is an anomaly below".

With high sound for shallow ground-changes and low for deeper located signal-distortions.

Such an additional audio-signal output can be worth alot for live-search and for
easier search-activity at more complicated areas.


And ok fine if the ukrainian Easyrad belongs to the german development.
With such cooperation also more technical details can be solved better and
how it handles different ground-conditions.

Good luck my friend and don't get lost at the hidden catacombes of Odessa when you find them with the Easyrad!
I saw some docu a few days ago - really interesting.

[Bigstarman]

Good luck my friend and don't get lost at the hidden catacombes of Odessa when you find them with the Easyrad!
I saw some docu a few days ago - really interesting.

Thank you, my friend.
We are known for multi-storey underground cities, which are untouched by modern people. See my attach.
Very interesting.


http://www.geotech1.com/forums/attac...5&d=1437563275

[Polymer]

Hello Funfinder,

You wrote: "If you have quartz-sand or limestone the chances may be zero that you can find any cavity at all, ...".

I am wondering what characteristics quartz & limestone have that make this so difficult.

I'm not looking for holes in the ground but dig them a lot and curious to learn something new.

Thanks, Polymer

[Funfinder]

hi bigstarman

thank you for the picture, it looks very good! Also the 8 meter depth is amazing.
I was already as a child an interested cave-explorer and even have leaded tourists there!

For cavity the Easyrad really seems to be the best detector for an accaptable good price
and even better than magnetometers with their color-spots on the screen.
But maybe it should be combined with a magnetometer for even more details.


When I should go to Ukraine or Egypt for treasure-hunting I will buy the Easyrad.
btw. the ukrainian Easyrad comes from Kharkov - on the homepage its a 380 code for
ukrainian mobile-phones and not the usual number-pre-code +38 for Khmelnytskiy (UA).

http://www.easyrad.com.ua/index.php?r=opis_en
<title>EASYRAD, Харьков, Украина, Kharkov, Ukraine</title>

The area there is a good location for treasure-hunting and its big enough for alot other cool things!

bigstarman, do you know the real correct name of how the people of Kharkov call their city???
Because it has 6 different names in the TV-News : Kharkov, Kharkiv, Tsharkov, Tsharkiv, Sharkov and Sharkiv.
I guess for Russia its called Kharkov while for the Ukraine and Europe Kharkiv - but I'm not 100% shure.


The Easyrad also would be of great help to find the mysteriously vanished Amber Room (Янтарная комната) or traces of it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amber_Room

At some old cellars and castle bunkers or other hidden cavities and tunnels.
And for treasures which are buried inside of walls, trees, statues, below altars etc.

Here a movie in english language plus subtitles about relics and bunkers of 2WW in Ukraine:
(right click save as)
http://www.nuclearflower.com/serpentswall_chunk_1.avi
http://www.nuclearflower.com/serpentswall_chunk_2.avi
http://www.nuclearflower.com/serpentswall_chunk_3.avi
http://www.nuclearflower.com/serpentswall_chunk_4.avi
http://www.nuclearflower.com/serpentswall_chunk_5.avi



@ Polymer
Thx for your interest and I hope you don't dig empty holes because metal-detectors give wrong signals.
Nice workout but bad for finding real treasures!

In such a case the problem is the scale from where the zero-point of the detection starts and
with what signal the different EM-field values are outputed.

Per example it would be easily possible to output not only 3 or 5 different tunes for metal values but
also additional for different ground mineraliziation conditions.


But back to your question:
The term "ground mineralization" simply is wrong - it should be named as ground metalization.

In fact every stone is high mineralic because it consists of 100% minerals.
But not every stone is metalic, magnetic or even contains ore veins.

Many red, green and blue rocks contain metal-combinations while quartz for the metal-detector is like glass -
as long as its pure and doesn't contains any metallic inclusions.

Limestone in the form of marble or very old pressed loam with sand also can contain "metal-minerals".
But real high-"mineralic" loam is a mixture of the fine sands of highly metalic stones.
At the ukrainian Easyrad page you can see the following values for lime-stone:

Environment

Specific Dielectric Constant, ε

Specific Conductivity, σ [mS/m]

Radio Propagation Velocity, [m/ns]

Attenuation, [dB/m]

Lime Stone

4-8

0,5-2

0.12

0.4-1

But there exist alot different kinds of this material - see wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limestone
Even organic stuff like tree-roots can have a high metalic-value while usually all the organic stuff is pretty low-mineralic.

Also blood contains iron but in such case the value is far too low for being detected with MDs!
But perhaps heavy-metals have been concentrated in the bones and then they became detectable if the amount is high enough.
Or if they had some implantation-surgery before....

Technically seen it has to do how easy can penetrate the EM field through different kinds of chemical substances.

The more heavy-weight the less good. Even light gets darker if it shines to 20cm thick glass.
But this means it also depends on the crystal structure of the mineral and with what its combined
concerning how good can pass the EM-waves through or not.

Very disturbing for metal-detectors are regions with fast changing conditions, no matter if caused by little
nails every 40cm on the surface, loam-pockets or huge hot rocks every few steps 1m below the ground.


A spot where a cheap conserve-can has been rusted to powder after 30 years is almost the same mineralic as loamy soil.
Most detectors won't show such finds at all because its already in the range of full discrimination.

So the best solution is an adjustable ground-balance from full "heavy mineralized" to silver or thick alu
in combination with a non-motion detector like the DeepHunter has it, because then its adjustble to any
ground mineralization.


But the problem is that ground in most times is a mixture and its very deep.
So far we don't have the exact values of all kind of different soils and mineralized-stones combinations.

btw. infrared radiation also penetrates good through the quartz-sand which makes it interesting for satellite-investigations.

And different frequencies are acting different with different kind of materials. GPRs work with higher frequencies
than MDs so they may get already much more useful signals with "bad" ground conditions - but not with all:

I've described it already here in this thread:
http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showt...579#post205579

This info here is also interesting:
http://easyrad.de/pages/faqs.php
approx. detection depths:

dry gravel and sand: 5 - 10m
saturated gravel and sand: 2 - 5m
wet gravel and sand: 2 - 3m
tight dry ground: 2m
tight wet ground: up to over 1m
rocks: 5m to over 10m
Dolomit or marbel: up to over 20m
usual water: 4m - 6m
salty water: 0m

Simply spoken:
the contrast factor of penetrating versus not penetration waves has to be detectable good enough.
The minerals below work similar reflecting to the GPR as the satellite-dish to the sat-signals.

Good luck.

[Bigstarman]

When I should go to Ukraine or Egypt for treasure-hunting I will buy the Easyrad.
btw. the ukrainian Easyrad comes from Kharkov - on the homepage its a 380 code for
ukrainian mobile-phones and not the usual number-pre-code +38 for Khmelnytskiy (UA).

http://www.easyrad.com.ua/index.php?r=opis_en
<title>EASYRAD, Харьков, Украина, Kharkov, Ukraine</title>

The area there is a good location for treasure-hunting and its big enough for alot other cool things!

bigstarman, do you know the real correct name of how the people of Kharkov call their city???
Because it has 6 different names in the TV-News : Kharkov, Kharkiv, Tsharkov, Tsharkiv, Sharkov and Sharkiv.
I guess for Russia its called Kharkov while for the Ukraine and Europe Kharkiv - but I'm not 100% shure.

Hi, Funfinder.

The ukrainian Easyrad comes from Kharkov.
Historically, Kharkiv residents speak two languages - Russian and Ukrainian.
Kharkov - Russian Language
Kharkiv - Ukraine Language
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kharkiv

The Easyrad also would be of great help to find the mysteriously vanished Amber Room (Янтарная комната) or traces of it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amber_Room

Oh, I know a few colleagues who are searching for the amber room using Easyrad GPR. I wish them much success. ))))))))))

At some old cellars and castle bunkers or other hidden cavities and tunnels.
And for treasures which are buried inside of walls, trees, statues, below altars etc.

Some charts tell us that they found less than 3% of the buried treasures in Ukraine. Lots of treasures found deep in the earth. Searching for them need a good deep devices.

[Funfinder]

thx for the good info, Bigstarman.



You really must see these 2 movies with the ultimate best GPR ever - just for inspiration:

El Dorado - Part1 - Temple Of The Sun (2010)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1789254/

El Dorado - Part2 - City Of Gold (2010)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1789255/



What is this with russian vs. ukrainian? Is russian language a dialect of ukrainian?
Afaik Ukraine was first and larger populated (the Kiev Rus etc.)

> Kharkiv - Ukraine Language

thx and good to know so we call it Kharkiv because it is Ukraine - even if its close the border.
btw. a near person of me already was there to built wooden block houses etc.

Maybe I will visit Kharkiv directly if the winter is over because there also is
a metal-detector shop and there is alot WW2 stuff to find inkl. hot: "Dzhengis Khan girls"!

Ukrainian girls often are an interesting and lovely mixture of "wild nature babes".
I can watch them all the time by Satellite-TV and listen to their songs.


Back to treasure-hunting:
A problem is that first alot finds have to be removed to make the way free for deep or even cavity stuff.
Of course this is mainly the situation in open and wide sites like battlefields, woods, deserts etc.

At buildings with walls or hidden rooms a GPR even can be the only way to see
if there is anything interesting behind bricks or stones without destroying the whole structure!

Best would be a combination of sensitive nonmotion-metal-detector (70cm coil minimum!!! )
with GPR inclusive high informational LCD screen output.
But meanwhile the computer-software gets better and better each year.



> they found less than 3% of the buried treasures in Ukraine

Absolutly if not even fewer - and perhaps just 0,005% of all the lost and interesting stuff.

Someone first must tear down whole cities, churches, temples and other buildings to get all
the buried stuff inside those structures or below !!!!

Often there are huge secret rooms or tombs below "sacred" buildings full of gifts for the afterworld
which are built to be protected this stuff and closed for "all eternity".

concerning the Amber-Room:
There exists lists and forums for the "black workers" (so called treasure-hunters @ Russia etc. )
which are the main interesting locations for searching. One also is about the Prussia-Treasure -
this was the formerly culture of Preussen (northern-east Germans and Goths) which later
populated Koenigsberg and St. Petersburg, perhaps even Moscow.


Alot rivers and lakes also bear a huge amount of sunken stuff - some of it was sunken intentionally
so nobody ever should find it again.



There is alot to find and the good thing is that we are the technical and treasure-hunting
very experienced and hopefully highly motivated persons so our chances are pretty good!


The best thing of the Easy-Rad is that it shows live and good viewable all the signals! So someone
can start directly digging! No boring many days during magnetometer-grid-scans of 1000s of squaremeters.


And that it goes very deep so treasure-hunting even through 50cm deep ukrainian snow would be
no problem if the digging tools are heavy enough! Some mini-excavator for example while
drinking Vodka and driving through the battlefields in the middle of the winter-time!

[Polymer]

Hello Funfinder,

I am catching up with replying, finally.

Thank You very much for your detailed answers and explanations in Post #20 !
I have learned a lot through your post.
I like the way you explain, because I get a good picture in my head about what is happening. Cheers for that too .

I do sometimes have empty holes, but only because I dig to fast and the "beep = gold? " treasure has gone flying about like a bird
and I have to look in the area again

Thanks Again, Polymer

[Bigstarman]

Wow! I didn't answer... sorry.

What is this with russian vs. ukrainian? Is russian language a dialect of ukrainian?
Afaik Ukraine was first and larger populated (the Kiev Rus etc.)

You are absolutely right.
History confirms this..

Maybe I will visit Kharkiv directly if the winter is over because there also is
a metal-detector shop and there is alot WW2 stuff to find inkl. hot: "Dzhengis Khan girls"!

Ukrainian girls often are an interesting and lovely mixture of "wild nature babes".
I can watch them all the time by Satellite-TV and listen to their songs.

Haha! I thought you would be interested in the treasure.
Ukraine is in the ranking for one of the first places in Europe. There is information that was found less than 3% of the treasures on today.
A lot of interesting still lies in the ground and waiting for its new owner.
When will be your arrival in Kharkov, whistle for me. We the people are friendly. Organize your visit to fill Ukrainian gorilka and feed the peasant lard.

[kt315]

What is this with russian vs. ukrainian? Is russian language a dialect of ukrainian?
Afaik Ukraine was first and larger populated (the Kiev Rus etc.)

modern Ukraina territory was under Velikoje Kniazhestvo Litovskoje (princedom) consisting modern Poland, Lithuania, Belaja Rus.
Moscow was by a part of Gold Orda, the mongool tatars territory from Moscow to far East.

[kt315]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Duchy_of_Lithuania

[Funfinder]

Fine, but now we still don't know exactly from where the "russian" language was started!
And where are the treasure-spots on this map?!

If we see Russia as a land where 400 years ago almost everywhere still was wilderness
its clear that the language was "imported" from the more west and south and already
much higher populated areas.

btw. Moscow at that time didn't even existed when Kiev already was huge
since hundreds of years. Wikipedia tells something about 1147 as the year when
Moscow became a small city but praehistorical finds are dated back to 5000 years ago.

btw. all the formerly YU republics incl. Bulgaria also speak some "russian or ukrainian dialect".
I know this because I have checked the same professionally out with the english language
that mostly originates from Germany, especially northern Germany.

Meanwhile for me it's clear that russian is a dialect of the old big country of Ukraine because
the Ukraine was there much more earlier.

And originally Russia belongs to Europe only and not to Asia!
The Ural-mountains are the true border and not the black sea
which means that also whole Turkey still is Europe and the
Elbrus is the highest mountain of Europe!

Of course we know that St. Petersburg and the baltic countries had a much higher
influence concerning the russian capital Moscow than Kiev over all the last hundreds of years.
Even Skandinavia like Finland had it. But of course also Kiev and other big cities at that
region have had there influence concerning the more north and eastern located lands.

And often the peoples mentality is much stronger influenced by the countries temperature,
what they can do for a living and how the landscape looks than from what races they origin!


Just look at the relaxed and life-enjoying mediterranean soul compared to the
often very seriously thinking or even a little bit depressed north-europeans.
You are the best example of them!


Anyway, everywhere can shine the sun and life can be enjoyable!
Especially in our modern and much more free times!
And the prettiest flowers (best girls) only grow on roughest stones!

The Ukraine (after Poland, CSSR, Romania and others) splitted up from Russia
because Western-Europe showed after WW2 that it works out better if people can have their free choice
instead "everything is planed for them by the leadership-class". Seen from "moral & character", communism was
much better for the people, they did not became that greedy for money etc. like its happening in the western world!
Capitalists sometimes behave the same as greedy, blinded and nature completly destroying gold-diggers!


Just some countries seems to need a dictator-system otherwise all different cultures there starts to fight each other.
Best example Irak and Yugoslavia - which even was at Middle-East-Europe. As long as Tito ruled, all lived peacefully
together there, but of course not good enough for everyone! But this is political and offtopic so I must end it here.



But I can tell you that I plan to develope a real fantastic large masses detection system which also is capable
for locating ultra-small stuff. The genious idea was so ridiculous simple - it's just a question of coil-distance ....
And Makro Group from Turkey may support me to realize it or even creates it - let yourself surprise.

[Funfinder]

Wow! I didn't answer... sorry.


You are absolutely right.
History confirms this..


Haha! I thought you would be interested in the treasure.
Ukraine is in the ranking for one of the first places in Europe. There is information that was found less than 3% of the treasures on today.
A lot of interesting still lies in the ground and waiting for its new owner.
When will be your arrival in Kharkov, whistle for me. We the people are friendly. Organize your visit to fill Ukrainian gorilka and feed the peasant lard.

Hi Bigstarman,

thx for the reply.
Meanwhile I found out where a close relative was imprisoned during WW2 -
somewhere around here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Voronezh_%281942%29

It's just a few km away from Kharkov and a great place for a relics hunt!

What I like at the Ukraine but also at the Balkan is its more wild, naturally and heartly nature!
You can call it also a little bit more rebellic compared with the "pet-zoo"-Europe.
Countries for real adventurers and treasure-hunters!

The ukrainian people are absolutly amazing - when I drove with the train, an ukrainian women
I met at the restaurant-waggon which actually lives in Swizzerland, invited me to their house in the Ukraine
and gave me swizz chocolate.

btw. one satellite with many ukrainian channels is Astra 4B at 5° east.


For me alot things are treasures: music, girls, WW2 relics, rare stuff, good drinks and having a great time!
Gorilka and peasant lard also always is very good!
The main problem is the snow and cold in winter or I would be already there.


I'm really interested in the Easy-Rad because it's technology is absolutly special and
its the best for cavities and fast large treasure-hunts over huge areas and for very deep stuff.
It is able to detect very special finds and in combination with the Makro DeepHunter or Racer
its unbeatable. btw. there exists now Mars Coils from Kiev for the Racer: http://www.marsmd.com/

Good luck with treasure-hunting and the Easy-Rad development over the winter-time!

[Funfinder]

Hi Polymer,

no problem with the somehow late answer, I hope you had a good time!

Better one hole too much as one treasure missed!
With enough motivation and time on your hands even digging is an interesting thing.

It's very good if you search very fast so the chances are great that you will catch
the big stuff first. Later as an old grand-pa you still can do it the slow and relaxed way!

Of course you have to search the area over and over again, even if you think you've found already everything there.

Especially if its a region with trees and bushes where the main search goes the simple, easy and obstacle-free way.
Or you can try it with a different detector and other coil-size again. Wonderful finds may still wait for you...

Cheers!

[Bigstarman]

Fine, but now we still don't know exactly from where the "russian" language was started!

All the creators of explanatory dictionaries of the Russian language originating from the territory of modern Ukraine. For Example, Vladimir Dal. In the 15th century Muscovite rulers invited commentators from the South. Even the first printer to Muscovy Ivan Fedorov was born in the Lviv region in Ukraine. ))))
I have spent many years working archeo linguistics and is ready to assert that the origins of the Slavic languages are much deeper in history. Known "founders" of the Cyrillic alphabet (Cyril and Methodius) invented and destroyed sushestvovala then the language and the alphabet, cutting it beyond recognition. The father of history Herodotus wrote about the Scythians: "the country is full of literacy... there is a printing press". I looked at the Scythian stone idols. Often they hold in their hands, rectangular object. No modern historian does not tell us what the object is. But to some, the well-preserved shows that it is a BOOK. Sometimes these books are open to us and deployed pages.

https://www.google.com.ua/search?q=%...HT5mBK0QsAQIEw

All the letters of the Slavic plane of the letter – CODE of building material "in the Image and Likeness". This projection onto the plane of the spatial volume of the multidimensional objects at all levels of the Universe.
Who can read and understand in the translation, read it, learn the foundations of the Universe laid down in Palpabile:

http://www.efir.com.ua/rus/a.php?r=4&d=19