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    Pulse Induction PI metal detectors have been around for quite some time now.
    Is the technology fully evolved ?
    Or is the PI technology stuck against a brick wall that seems to put a stop to further development ?
    Did the PI technology take the wrong path somewhere along the evolution and end up in a dead end ?


    Maybe we should revisit some earlier designs and look for missed cross roads ?


    There are quite a few big names in PI design.
    Eric Foster
    Corbin
    David Emery and many more. Maybe we should start with making a list of names and patents and then look closely at the new ideas that were published years ago.
    There are many ideas out there that merit a closer inspection. For example :


    Dave Johnson, he is the designer of the FISHER IMPULSE, a design that is very different from the main PI design line. But he has also published many other new ideas. Below is just one of his ideas, published in FINDMALL, http://www.findmall.com/




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    power-efficient PI .....Invention?
    Dave Johnson
    Date: December 29, 2001 05:23PM
    Since nobody's paying me to do PI these days, and since I'm not rich enough to be messing around with patenting stuff, I may as well post this in a public place where people who may be interested will see it.
    DESIGN FOR A PULSE INDUCTION METAL DETECTOR WITH POWER EFFICIENCY COMPARABLE TO VLF
    This design requires an induction balance searchcoil. Values of voltage, timing, inductance, etc. are merely examples for purposes of discussion. The transmitter coil is described as being single-ended, but it could be driven double-ended.
    This is not the system described in the "Fisher patent". However, the "Fisher Patent" provides good background for understanding this system.
    TRANSMITTER
    The "hot" side of the transmitter coil can be switched to +50 volts, to -50 volts, or to ground (shorting it out). The timing sequence of the transmitter comprises four phases: 10us to +50v, 90us to ground, 10us to -50v, and 90us to ground. Thus, alternating polarity pulses are transmitted with a fundamental period of 200us (= 5kHz).
    Suppose that the coil has a Q of 4 at 5 kHz, and that its inductance is 500 uH. The current waveform will be as follows:
    Phase I: 50 volts across 500 uH for 10us causes a change in current of one ampere in the positive direction.
    Phase II: because the coil is (nearly) shorted out, the current continues to flow, decaying somewhat because of the finite Q of the coil.
    Phase III: there is a change in current of one ampere in the negative direction.
    Phase IV: the current continues to flow, decaying somewhat.
    Note that there is a reversal of current during the transmit pulses (Phases I and III). During the 4 microseconds or so prior to the current reversal, the energy stored in the coil is returned to the power supply. Also note that the mean current is approximately +/- 0.5 ampere, since there is only a 1 ampere change between Phase II and Phase IV (and vice versa).
    Also note that what's going on in this transmitter coil is completely different from conventional (even Fisher Impulse) practice. The flyback period is not a short pulse intended to kill the coil current-- it's a long period intended to sustain the current.
    Note also that the current waveform is a distorted 5 kHz square wave.
    In conventional PI practice the transmit pulse is a waste of energy from the target's point of view-- it's the flyback pulse that kicks the target. In this new system, the transmit pulse is what kicks the target.
    Since the transmitter coil always has current flowing in it and is always shorted out to something, it cannot do double duty as a receiver coil. Therefore a separate receiver coil, preferably in a condition of induction balance relative to the transmitter, is necessary.
    POWER CONSUMPTION
    The transmit duty cycle is 10%. If the Q of the transmitter coil were low, say less than unity, then during each pulse the current would ramp up linearly from zero to 1 ampere, with an average current of 0.5 ampere. Multiplied by the 10% duty cycle, this is a current drain of 50 milliamperes. However, since the Q of the coil is 4, the direction of current reverses during the transmit pulse, with the net current being only 1/4 the full delta. Therefore the current drain from the 50 volt supply is 12.5 mA. That's 625 mW.
    To put this in perspective, consider a 500 uH coil driven by a 5 kHz sinusoid with an RMS current of 0.5 ampere. The reactance is 16 ohms, so the RMS voltage must be 8 volts. That's 23 volts P-P, pretty darn hefty drive. Given a Q of 4, the resistance would be 4 ohms, so the power consumption in the coil is I-squared-R, or 1 watt. The newfangled PI system didn't violate the laws of thermodynamics-- the sinusoidal component of its current at 5 kHz is actually somewhat less than 0.5 A RMS.
    THE RECEIVED WAVEFORM
    In the presence of a reactive offset, such as that produced by mechanical misalignment of the searchcoil or by the presence of low-loss magnetic minerals such as magnetite, the voltage induced into the receiver soil will approximately replicate the transmit voltage waveform. If we normalize the voltage induced during Phases I and III to 1 volt (induced by 100 milliamperes per microsecond) then the slope of the current during Phases II and IV (very approx. 1 mA/us) will induce a voltage on the order of 10 millivolts during Phases II and IV.
    Resistive losses in low-conductivity targets will extend short "tails" from Phases I and III into Phases II and IV. In the case of high-conductivity targets and iron metal, the tails will be much longer, being truncated by the next transmit pulse.
    Since the reactive signals are "piled up" in Phases I and III, gating the preamp off during these phases eliminates most of the reactive signal component, especially those of the higher frequency components. The suppression of reactive at the fundamental is roughly proportional to the Q of the transmitter at the fundamental.
    In actual practice, the preamp would normally not be gated on until several microseconds past the ends of the transmit pulses. This allows time for the spikes induced into the receiver coil to decay, and helps eliminate response to salt water and conductive soils. ......If a very fast preamp is used, which recovers quickly and gracefully from saturation, then it may be operated ungated, with everything getting sorted out at the demodulators, in accordance with conventional PI practice.
    USING THE REACTIVE SIGNALS
    Since this system has residual reactive signal components esp. at the lower frequencies, it will be desirable to demodulate the primary reactive signal so it can be used for ground balancing. If the preamp is both fast and linear, the reactive signal can be demodulated in its respective time-slots, corresponding approximately to Phases I and III. Otherwise, a separate low-gain amplifier can be furnished for feeding the reactive demodulator. It may be desirable to gate this amplifier on during the transmit pulses and off at other times.
    DEMODULATORS
    As is well known in PI practice, it is necessary to do full wave demodulation in order to cancel earth field pickup, even if the desired signals are unipolar.
    This new system produces a bipolar symmetrical signal which is intrinsically well-suited for full wave demodulation.
    Timing of the demodulator switches would presumably follow conventional PI practice-- long delays or wide gating periods for high conductivity targets, short delays with short gating periods for low conductivity targets.
    RECEIVER COIL RESONANCE
    In order to provide high sensitivity, the receiver coil will ordinarily have more turns than the transmitter, resulting in higher inductance and lower self-resonant frequency. Self-resonance is undesirable, but its effects can be minimized.
    The conventional method of dealing with self-resonance is to provide a parallel damping resistor which is always in the circuit. In many applications, this method will suffice.
    Where the period of self-resonance is of the same order of magnitude as the transmit pulse duration, self-resonance can be put to good use.
    Consider the case where the receiver coil is self-resonant at 100 kHz, having a period of 10 microseconds. When kicked by a step function, it will ring with a period of 10 us. Now suppose that 10 us later we kick it again with another step function that goes in the opposite direction. (This sequence is equivalent to our 10 microsecond transmit pulse.) By linear superposition, the ringdown induced by the second step function will cancel the ringdown induced by the first step function. .....Then, and only then (several microseconds later, giving the receiver circuit time to know it's been kicked again), do we switch the damping resistor into the circuit. Since the resonance of the receiver was synchronized to cancel the reactive signals induced by the transmit pulse, the damping resistor doesn't have much left to dampen.
    The foregoing explanation is a gross oversimplification. To get optimum cancellation it will be necessary to fiddle with resonant frequency, damping during the transmit pulse, damping after the transmit pulse, and delay before kicking in the main damping resistor.
    It's possible this fancy trick may interfere with effective demodulation of reactive signals.
    SOMETHING THAT MAY NOT BE INTUITIVELY OBVIOUS
    In a conventional (including Fisher) PI, the transmit current is brought to zero, and then the receiver looks at the signals induced in the coil. This is true even if the coil is of the induction balance type.
    In this new design, during the period that the receiver is turned on, large currents are flowing in the transmitter coil. Intuitively it might seem that large voltages would therefore be induced in the receiver, but this is not the case.
    The voltage induced in the receiver by the transmitter via loop imbalance or magnetite is proportional to the rate of change of transmitter current. If the current is large, but its rate of change is zero, no voltage is induced. In fact the reason that conventional PI's don't couple transmitter into the receiver is not because the transmit current is zero (although it is), but because its rate of change is zero.
    If the Q of the transmitter coil were infinite, the current during Phases II and IV would be constant, and there would be nothing induced into the receiver by imbalance. However, at the fundamental frequency, the Q will usually fall within the range of 4 to 15 in order to take advantage of the power efficiency made possible by this scheme, while at the same time keeping the weight of the searchcoil reasonable. So, although some reactive signal will be induced at the fundamental, it will be several times less than what would have been induced in a comparable VLF design.
    QUESTIONS------------
    1. Has it already been done?
    2. Has it already been patented?
    3. Is there some fatal flaw in the scheme?
    -------------------------------
    David E. Johnson
    Prescott, Arizona
    29 December 01

  • #2
    A flurry of posts followed this one into the New Year of 2002. Some, here:

    http://www.findmall.com/read.php?34,129532
    http://www.findmall.com/read.php?34,129533
    http://www.findmall.com/read.php?34,129535

    Or look to deemons work with an example that uses a monocoil.

    http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showt...ulse-Induction

    A great idea too.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by greylourie View Post
      A flurry of posts followed this one into the New Year of 2002. Some, here:

      http://www.findmall.com/read.php?34,129532
      http://www.findmall.com/read.php?34,129533
      http://www.findmall.com/read.php?34,129535

      Or look to deemons work with an example that uses a monocoil.

      http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showt...ulse-Induction

      A great idea too.
      Or David Emery, patent US20090045813A1
      Or the many good ideas by Aziz and TINKERER

      There is no lack of ideas out there. But, surprisingly little effort to try to implement the ideas or further develop any new idea.
      It seems only simplistic models have any appeal.

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      • #4
        Reasonable contribution Monolith.

        Something to consider and rethink.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by WM6 View Post
          Reasonable contribution Monolith.

          Something to consider and rethink.
          When we look at the dates on the posts above, we see that the square wave TX was postulated by Dave Johnson in December 2001, Further discussed in 2002, implemented experimentally in 2010-12 by Deemon and finally sold as commercial metal detector by MINELAB in 2015.
          Others have played with the idea in the meantime, but we might say that the basic idea took 15 years to be converted into a commercial product.
          Many things have changed in the electronic technology during these 15 years. Many more things are going to change within the next few years with the way the world politics are going.
          At the beginning of the millennium, the need for better security screening at airports, gave a big boost the security metal detector development. Every war gives a boost to mine detecting equipment and metal detector development.

          What should WE plan to spend our time on in the new year? Here are a few ideas:

          1) The simplest metal detector to build, but using state of the art modern technology. For example using an ARDUINO based metal detector "SHIELD".
          2) Going for a bit more complex design, using for example an ARM NUCLEO board and modular satellite boards fabricated in China for a basic platform, designed to test many new ideas. Manufacturing PCB's and prototype quantity, board assembly in China has become very affordable.

          3) Go all the way for a metal detector platform integrated with a ANDROID tablet. I think IVCONIC has mentioned this idea some time ago.

          These are not projects for beginners.

          For beginners there are already many good projects to choose on and to learn the basic functions of metal detectors. There are some excellent and very interesting basic designs in the book INSIDE THE METAL DETECTOR.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Monolith View Post
            When we look at the dates on the posts above, we see that the square wave TX was postulated by Dave Johnson in December 2001, Further discussed in 2002, implemented experimentally in 2010-12 by Deemon and finally sold as commercial metal detector by MINELAB in 2015.
            Others have played with the idea in the meantime, but we might say that the basic idea took 15 years to be converted into a commercial product.

            By the way , guys , the game isn't over yet What Dave proposed and Minelab implemented ( current square wave TX ) is only one part of the thing ... but the entire design of mine does contain something more . I mean another 2 ideas of my approach - current signal pickup instead of voltage and usage of balanced ( or auto-balanced ) mono coil . And another important thing is that I use quite a different method of current reverse - quasi-resonant power chain with L-C energy exchange , the first time appeared in that unipolar recuperative PI machine ( published here ) , and then transferred to my square-wave approach ( from the other topic ).


            What I claim - we need to use all these ideas simultaneously to obtain the best possible result - as I had shown in my topic . As I can see now - nobody implemented all this stuff in the commercial device yet , so here is still a great field for experiments , research and development ..... as for me , I have completely solved all the "theoretic" and "electronic" problems , but stopped now with some "mechanical" troubles . I mean the proper coil winding , isolation , shielding , mounting and so on . Then I need to make a good box for all this electronic stuff .... so I really don't know how much time I need to finish it in the working device - but I'll finish it anyhow, at any rate

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