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    Hi Chris,
    Tried your E-Mail but it was returned.
    You seem to know what's going on. HELP!!
    I am trying to build one of these deep seekers.
    http://www.thunting.com/cgi-bin/geotech/pages/common/index.pl?page=metdet&file=/projects/deepseeker/index.dat
    Know very little about pot core xformers. My total experience is winding one for a proton magnetometer in the early 70 s.

    I've wound the xmit coil on a pot core I have.
    Has 2597-A 9-9-69 in red on top of it and 57 in blue green on the bottom. Probably doesn't mean much without a mfgr.
    Two piece shell, one section bobbin and the 6,35,165 turns, #30 almost fills the bobbin. Shell diameter is about 7/8". I jumble
    wound 6 turns (tap) 35 turns (tap) then 165 turns.
    My thought is that even if the pot core is not the exact one required shouldn't the transmitter still oscillate (just at a different frequency)??
    The listed inductance at the Geotech site is 168 mH??? Does that seem right to you??
    Maybe it is 168 uH. I have other questions (no answers).
    On the first page 2nd column it says 20 kHz but on page 6, "How it Works" paragraph, it says it operates at 100kHz. With an inductance of 165 uH and capacitance of 450 pf resonance would be like
    58 kHz. Which is close to what I have seen on my freq counter.
    (CALCULATORS)
    http://www3.telus.net/chemelec/Calculators/Calculators.htm

    100n is 0.1 uF. 4n7 is 0.0047 uF. Did I get that right??
    For the AC128 I subbed a NTE157.
    What I think I should see on my scope is a burst of 20 or 100 kHz (in my case no telling what) at a frequency set by the timing of the variable resistor c2, c3, r1, r2, and the BE junction of Q1.
    Does any of this make sense? I've built the xmitter twice now. No solder bridges open connections etc...
    But It does not seem to work as I expected.
    If this detector is as good as reported in the article I would like to have one as a companion to my Cesium Magnetometers.
    Any help, suggestions etc. from anyone appreciated,
    Don
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  • #2
    Re: Qs for Chris, Deep-Seeking Detector

    Don, The transmitter transistor needs to be a germanium type. To use a silicon type you would probably need to vary the 27k/180k bias resistors. Good luck.
    regards, Allan.

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    • #3
      Re: Qs for Chris, Deep-Seeking Detector

      Thanks Allan.. That 157 was a mistake it is a NTE158 which is a 1W Ge..
      Thanks for catching the error in my post.
      Any other suggestions??
      Don

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      • #4
        Re: Qs for Chris, Deep-Seeking Detector

        Hi.
        does the oscilator work?
        the oscilator freq is 20Khz.
        Do you know in whitch electronic device i can find pot cores.
        Thanks

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        • #5
          deep seekerr metal locator

          hi,
          how can i find pot cores p18/11 type co help me?

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