The new model Tesoro: The Mohave

[aothunterpl]

Hi, has anyone heard anything about the new model of the detector Tesoro.

On the manufacturer's nothing there.
But apparently it did, not have long to leave such a model.

They are sent a demo unit to a company representative in europe.

Regarts

[SVEN1]

Tesoro had a fantasy model Cazador they were going to produce. Delay, after delay, excuses after excuse, finally they crawled under a rock and said no more about it. Made a lot of Tesoro fans angry!!! Tesoro then stopped sponsoring the Tesoro Forum on Findmall...........Findmall also deleted many of the Cazador posts. Even Allan Cannon started working at Tesoro, he made a few posts and like the other marketing guys that worked at Tesoro, Tesoro said no more posting. haven't seen a post from him since. Tesoro is happy as can be producing the same detectors they have been for the past 10 years. New models are just the old models with a new color scheme oh, and a new 10DD coil. They just don't have any engineers working for them and won't hire one. So don't expect anything soon. They make good beep and dig detectors but, being left in the dust by European beep and digs.
https://www.google.ca/search?q=cazad...EOmM8QfOk7KoDQ

[homefire]

I'm wanting a 30Khz Lobo. That and my GMT should be all one would need in the GOLD department.

[aothunterpl]

Tesoro had a fantasy model Cazador they were going to produce. Delay, after delay, excuses after excuse, finally they crawled under a rock and said no more about it. Made a lot of Tesoro fans angry!!! Tesoro then stopped sponsoring the Tesoro Forum on Findmall...........Findmall also deleted many of the Cazador posts. Even Allan Cannon started working at Tesoro, he made a few posts and like the other marketing guys that worked at Tesoro, Tesoro said no more posting. haven't seen a post from him since. Tesoro is happy as can be producing the same detectors they have been for the past 10 years. New models are just the old models with a new color scheme oh, and a new 10DD coil. They just don't have any engineers working for them and won't hire one. So don't expect anything soon. They make good beep and dig detectors but, being left in the dust by European beep and digs.
https://www.google.ca/search?q=cazad...EOmM8QfOk7KoDQ

You have a lot of truth in what you writeTechnology is the 80 - 84 - 90

The same all the time.

They are simple detectors and good.
They have many admirers - fans.

But for me .... the new models is one very big minus

The multi tons .........

This missing and it is now the base

regarts

[chevesne]

http://www.tesoro.com/product/detect...ave/index.html

[bernte_one]

Tesoro is too late. Just a new analog clone of their other detector models.
Why they dont put the Arduino VDI on it?

[aothunterpl]

They dont have god engeniering in work.

The new model is name Mojave its in the website Tesoro.

Nothing interesting or breakthrough.


The so-called reheated pork.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bx6iXXD6UTk

[Carl-NC]

Being in the employ of a detector company, I generally don't comment too much on competitors, except on technical issues. But it looks to me that Tesoro is doing about all that Tesoro is capable of doing. They simply have no one to develop anything new.

I suspect that there really was a Cazador project, I suspect that Jack was the guy responsible for it, and I suspect that Jack and the Cazador died on the same day. So it's back to move-a-knob, add-a-switch, paint-it-black, call-it-new. This will excite the fan base of 100 or so people, they'll sell a few units, then everyone will go back to, "When will Tesoro have a new detector?"

The way the Cazador was handled was nothing short of a fiasco, but it's nothing compared to the M16 connector disaster, or the Golden uMax firmware debacle. Stuff like that can sink a small company quickly. The Golden was particularly weird; how do you lose the firmware? OK, computer crash, but was there no backup? Was the source code on the same drive as the binary? Heck, if nothing else, send a unit to China and have them rip the binary so at least you can still produce. Things like this leave me scratching my head.

[eclipse]

I've seen their older models, in used condition, go for more on ebay (ex: Eldorado).
As price drops so as the build quality... you can be sure in that.

[ivconic]

Being in the employ of a detector company, I generally don't comment too much on competitors, except on technical issues. But it looks to me that Tesoro is doing about all that Tesoro is capable of doing. They simply have no one to develop anything new.
I suspect that there really was a Cazador project, I suspect that Jack was the guy responsible for it, and I suspect that Jack and the Cazador died on the same day. So it's back to move-a-knob, add-a-switch, paint-it-black, call-it-new. This will excite the fan base of 100 or so people, they'll sell a few units, then everyone will go back to, "When will Tesoro have a new detector?"
The way the Cazador was handled was nothing short of a fiasco, but it's nothing compared to the M16 connector disaster, or the Golden uMax firmware debacle. Stuff like that can sink a small company quickly. The Golden was particularly weird; how do you lose the firmware? OK, computer crash, but was there no backup? Was the source code on the same drive as the binary? Heck, if nothing else, send a unit to China and have them rip the binary so at least you can still produce. Things like this leave me scratching my head.

One arm controller, few soft buttons, small OLED or TFT and voila!
At the same time keep the same "traditional" enclosure as trademark.
I really hoped that things will evolve in such direction, after the Cortes.

"..The Golden was particularly weird; how do you lose the firmware? ..."

I don't think is possible. Just a lame excuse. How the hell this can happen?!
No way man!
Best way to protect and keep it for good is to crypt it and upload to cloud.
Not possible that they kept in on one single media!? Hard to believe!

[ivconic]

For such small code this would be the ideal solution:

https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/...d-as-it-sounds

[F117]

how do you lose the firmware? OK, computer crash, but was there no backup? Was the source code on the same drive as the binary?

I am not even by far a small company, but as sw developer - even as a hobbyist - I assume it is good practice ( if not elementary) to have a repository in the cloud :

For my PICKINI project I use github - open source anyway : https://github.com/bwillaert/MD/tree/master/Pickini4

It's beyond my comprehension why you would not have a backup of the code, if not in the cloud: usb stick/drive kept in a "safe" place...

- Bernard

[eclipse]

I'm using Github for private projects, it costs 7$ per month for unlimited number of projects, the free account gives you opportunity to host public projects as much as you want.
If you stop paying monthly tax the private projects you have uploaded are still there (they don't delete them for quite long time, maybe unlimited - not sure), which is also good, you can return to your pro account when you need to.

[ivconic]

I'm using Github for private projects, it costs 7$ per month for unlimited number of projects, the free account gives you opportunity to host public projects as much as you want.
If you stop paying monthly tax the private projects you have uploaded are still there (they don't delete them for quite long time, maybe unlimited - not sure), which is also good, you can return to your pro account when you need to.

Ever since 1988. and my first PC (XT turbo at 4&10MHz) i have pretty nerdy habit to make huge pile of backups on various medias.
I always had spare room at home for backups. At the time those were 5.25" floppies, few hundreds of those!
...
Nowdays i am using clouds for less important stuff (not sure if "they" are messing up with my files there or not, probably YES... paranoia!)
And for more important files i am having 3 USB hard disks. Each one in separate USB rack.
Above all; i am still burning CDs and DVDs occasionally. Have collection of 1500 of those!!
And at the end there are few USB sticks and SD cards starting from 128Mb (ha,ha,ha) up to 16GB stick.
It's the old and pretty redundant habit that i have now, for one simple reason; i have nothing really to hide, therefore i can use any cloud freely, which i do for several years.
It's not the paranoia against internet thieves as it is paranoia against internet connection lost, so in those stupid hours i would not have from where to pull out my data.
We live in pretty stupid and insecure world, internet can go off for any most trivial reason. Power also can go off too, just for any most trivial and stupid reason.
What to do than?
That's why i am having a "backup" of all my backups on "hard" and "material" medias.
So to be able to do anything in hours without Internet and power connection.
Simply there are few laptops and tablets with good batteries and there are numerous kinds of "material" medias with backups.
Cloud backup is just fantastic thing when i am out of home, anyplace on any device.

[Bill2or3]

So, who's got a Mojave?

I'd love to see some pictures of the circuit board, so I can tell if it's just a souped-up Compadre, or if it's really a new design.

Bill