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    For over a decade I've ask for one small feature to a good detector.
    Say for instance on the Fisher F75 detector or another machine of comparable abilities.
    Add a two tone function in the motion all metal mode.
    Nothing fancy, just one tone for ferrous and another for non-ferrous.
    Being a computer programmer for several years I can't imagine this would be very difficult.
    Now on the F75, while in motion all metal mode the machine gives better depth and also gives an ID for detected metal objects.
    So since nothing is really needed except assigning a tone to the ID number scheme why is it so hard to acquire a unit with that feature.
    I know the V3i has a feature similar, but it lacks the depth capability of the F75 in my ground.
    Now I've ask again.
    I'll check back in another decade.

  • #2
    What was the reply you got back after you sent a letter to all the manufacturers asking for this feature ?

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    • #3
      why you do not wish to buy xTerra 705 and close off your wishes?

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      • #4
        Never received a reply

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        • #5
          Quote:"why is it so hard to acquire a unit with that feature"
          This is what the XP GoldmaxxPower / Gmaxx2 do, along with some of their 'imitators', which I believe include some Deeptech's, like the Vista models.
          And Fisher/Tek are probably reluctant to do it because they don't want to appear to be copying one of their rivals.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by markg View Post
            Never received a reply

            At least you tried.

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            • #7
              2 Tones ???

              99 Tones!
              http://noktadetectors.com/downloads_...l-detector.asp

              quote:
              99-Tone Discrimination (DI99)
              Multi-tone discrimination mode designed for coin hunting in various mineralization. In this
              mode, the device produces a low tone for ferrous targets with 0-15 IDs. For targets with IDs
              greater than 15, the device will produce a different tone for each ID. The tone will be higher
              in pitch as the conductivity of the metal increases and vice versa.

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              • #8
                Multi-tone discrimination mode
                That's not what he asked for....

                There's some interesting replies to the same question on Dankowski's forum, seems a lot of machines may do this 'trick' , but whether they do it well enough is the debatable bit.

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                • #9
                  what he asked for? 99 tones in xterra and what?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by markg View Post
                    For over a decade I've ask for one small feature to a good detector.
                    Say for instance on the Fisher F75 detector or another machine of comparable abilities.
                    Add a two tone function in the motion all metal mode.
                    Nothing fancy, just one tone for ferrous and another for non-ferrous.
                    Being a computer programmer for several years I can't imagine this would be very difficult.
                    Now on the F75, while in motion all metal mode the machine gives better depth and also gives an ID for detected metal objects.
                    So since nothing is really needed except assigning a tone to the ID number scheme why is it so hard to acquire a unit with that feature.
                    I know the V3i has a feature similar, but it lacks the depth capability of the F75 in my ground.
                    Now I've ask again.
                    I'll check back in another decade.

                    Every Nexus detector can work with two tones (or VCO for the older models) in true All Metal mode since 2004. But no display and no VDI. It's a strange predicament. The one detector that does exactly what you want have no display and all with display don't have this simple feature.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Skippy View Post
                      Multi-tone discrimination mode
                      That's not what he asked for....

                      There's some interesting replies to the same question on Dankowski's forum, seems a lot of machines may do this 'trick' , but whether they do it well enough is the debatable bit.

                      OK, he might just have asked: "Why they weren't able to add such a simple and useful feature after such long time?"
                      but this changes nothing. The only real solution for him is to get some detector with the wanted features or to
                      modify his favorite MD somehow - could be complicated with digital ID output.

                      btw. personally I would like a detector that comes with different vibration patterns depending on the metal
                      or at least iron vs noble. Because I have much better to listen than beeps! Nice challenge for the next years.

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                      • #12
                        I meant that he specifically asked for an all-metal mode. And NOT a conventional disc mode, which he's tried on numerous machines.

                        And Mr.Funfinder: you are a fan of Makro/Nokta, so you will be pleased to hear that one machine that appears to do what MarkG wants is the new Impact, which has two 'all-metal' modes, called GEN and GEN(D) which can both be setup to do tone discrimination.

                        And off-topic regarding the vibration function: I think dual vibrators would probably be the best way to do the Ferrous / non-ferrous identification, one being a larger/slower type (for iron?) the other a faster type for non-ferrous. If they were positioned differently on the detector it would help distinguish them more easily.

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