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  • #16
    Originally posted by Qiaozhi View Post
    This is not a hybrid detector. It's a VLF.
    In fact, it's a Golden Mask, as you can see in the last few seconds of the video.
    Yes, the box is from Golden Mask . I could push the board ( PCB ) with parts in a box of other brand detectors . What would you say then? The appearance can not always be judged on the content . By behavior is judged for content . You know , you guess , where it is said ,, you will recognize them in their occasions ( actions , doings ) “. This is said before 2000 years . You know who said it .

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    • #17
      Dear kt315 , I will believe that this soap-dish , which has a display , is a true hybrid then when you're uploading a video , which shows the behavior of the soap dish when testing with a stone like the one in my video … in Russia, there are many deposits of iron ore . It's very simple - the same volume I have measured , the same weight , and please do not forget to pick it up in the air with a neodymium magnet from a computer hard disk drive . Do tests like mine . Only then will I believe . In Bulgaria years ago also pushed into a box two boards –one is PI , and the other is VLF – IB . From two brand detectors in series production . But it's not a hybrid . These are two small dinosaurs of different breeds , located in the stomach on Fred Flintstone . Please read some patents on this topic –hybrid metal detector.

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      • #18
        All this gibberish and smilies and not a single technical term to sparkle a real technical interest. I would suggest moving to offtopic.

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        • #19
          sure to offtopic. no interes to the idiotizm and the childishness. we had seen one serbian. enough.
          administrator must close off this garbage.
          http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showt...-VLF-PI-Hybrid

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          • #20
            The most economical tariff offered by mobile operators in Bulgaria , is a tariff ,, schizophrenia “ - you speak with yourself , paying 0 euro cents per minute ! That's why I will no longer answer on kt315 . let him talk to himself of the tariff "schizophrenia".

            When a lawyer (for example ) watching a circuit board from a metal detector or monitor he does not see anything . Why ? Because in his brain where he is being processed visual information , there are no concepts about resistor, capacitor, coil etc. Does not know how they look , how they work . In this forum I left a lot of knowledge . But it is in a highly compressed form . With very few words I have said many things . You must have read many books , to understand what you read . To understand the interrelationships , between many things and processes in this world .You must use powerful correlation processing of the information , to understand what I have written . I'm not guilty , that he – kt315 does not understand what I wrote . And that he does not understand my video . No induction balance detector , even by BBS or FBS technology not withstand ( endure , stand ) the monstrous reactive component of the stone from the video .
            Something else- psychologists have found , that the level of a group of people is defined by the person with the lowest level ( intellectually, spiritually level ) . On each of this forum it will be very unpleasant , when in topic , which he wrote with a lot of hard work and waste of time ( I do not know English very well ) they began to write such ,,gurus ‘’ , like kt315 , or others like him . The level of the topic falls catastrophically down !!! On purpose I did not answer on kt315 right away. He was very angry from mine post #17 (excuse me, I had in mind soap box ) . For that he proposed moving my topic to offtopic. But people can guess why they did .They understand that he is furious And people laugh at it . People are mocking ( sneer , laugh on ) on kt315 and when I answer him ( my answer #8 make kt315 ridiculous ( for laughter ) ) , and when I do not answer him . But I am not to blame for that ( not guilty ) . kt315 there are 8652 posts !!! For 13 years . Just not possible one person to work with metal detector , to post a comment in forums , read technical books , to work with soldering iron , complete a metaldetectors , and simultaneously taking a bath and eat . Who pays you, kt315 ? You round the clock write in the forums . ,, who does not know-talk , who knows - does not speak ‘’-eastern proverb (wisdom ). I'm not in this forum to write nonsense , or to mock someone . No one pays me, I have no time . Guru means humility . Guru gives freedom of thought , own path to knowledge of his students . The guru knows very good , that his knowledge is limited .
            ,,All I know is that I do not know anything. But I know what others do not know that I know. "-Socrates, 400 years before the New Age .

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            • #21
              Then we stick to the facts - there is no hybrid detector

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Riss View Post
                No induction balance detector , even by BBS or FBS technology not withstand ( endure , stand ) the monstrous reactive component of the stone from the video.
                Maybe, maybe not, but how would a hybrid be any better? The major concern is reactive overload, and a fast AGC could deal with that. Regardless of hybrid or not.

                All: The thread is fine exactly where it is at. If you don't like the discussion, don't reply.

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                • #23
                  Please explain why you think so? What you saw on the video , how did you understand it ? Tell your arguments , please .

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Riss View Post
                    Yes, the box is from Golden Mask . I could push the board ( PCB ) with parts in a box of other brand detectors . What would you say then? The appearance can not always be judged on the content . By behavior is judged for content . You know , you guess , where it is said ,, you will recognize them in their occasions ( actions , doings ) “. This is said before 2000 years . You know who said it .
                    At first I thought you were showing us a video you had discovered on youtube, and was asking a question as to whether this was some sort of hybrid technology. But it appears that it is you in the video showing us a prototype detector. If that's the case, then this was not clear from your initial post.

                    What is it that you're attempting to tell us?
                    Is this something you've designed yourself?
                    Are you going to share the details (which is what we like to do on this forum) or are you just enjoying winding up KT315?
                    It would be good to know your intent in this matter.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Carl-NC View Post
                      Maybe, maybe not, but how would a hybrid be any better? The major concern is reactive overload, and a fast AGC could deal with that. Regardless of hybrid or not.

                      All: The thread is fine exactly where it is at. If you don't like the discussion, don't reply.
                      Thanks for the question and the attention . I will respond as soon as possible . Very briefly . Some things will be silent ( I will not tell ). Because here every word is weighed on scales ( Roman balance ) . You know very well why … some people extract useful information by half a word…

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                      • #26
                        What folly is this? Why don't you state the basis on which this device is working? Give some details. Otherwise how can you expect to engage in technical discussion.
                        https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9S_UlE1B7ys

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                        • #27
                          Without real ground balance detector in test, to very mineralized soil -at the same time, such air tests are not relevant.

                          Put your hot magnetite stone in mineralized soil, at least 10cm deep (put 2euro coin under those magnetite piece before),
                          ground balance detector (to magnetite in soil without stone), take video (with stone over coin in soil) and report here on success.

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                          • #28
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                            • #29
                              From Minelab metal detecting blog:
                              Persons new to the hobby of metal detecting will probably realize fairly quickly that it isn't just the ground that can cause false signals. There are other things lurking in the goldfields that can be just as noisy; namely the dreaded hot rocks!

                              A hot rock can loosely be defined as: any rock or stone not containing a valuable mineral (gold, silver, or copper) which generates an audible signal response on a metal detector. The exact cause of this phenomenon has been debated among detectorists for some time. Numerous theories have been proposed, however those that seem most reasonable to me are the ones that focus on the iron-bearing minerals found within most hot rocks. These minerals are predominately the iron oxides: magnetite, hematite, limonite, maghemite and lepidocrocite. All of these oxides exhibit a varying degree of ferromagnetism and can be magnetized by being exposed to another magnetic field; like the one generated by a detector's search coil. If the coil is swept across a high iron content hot rock, a secondary magnetic field will be created around it. This secondary field will then be sensed by the coil's primary field and trigger an audible response via the headphones or speaker.
                              Just like gold nuggets, hot rocks seem to come in a never ending assortment of shapes, color and sizes. The typical varieties you are likely to encounter in the US are basalt, magnetite and hematite. There are many others, but these are the most common. A variety of classification schemes and names have been proposed for the hot rocks that litter the goldfields. These names include cold rocks, hot rocks, positive rocks, negative rocks, etc. Personally, I have always tended to use the terms positive and negative when referencing hot rocks.

                              Negative hot rocks are usually magnetite or contain magnetite. They tend to be dark in color and are often heavy due to their iron content. They are usually attracted to a magnet and in some cases, will show rust stains.

                              Positive hot rocks are usually iron-bearing rocks which have been oxidized by natural weathering processes. They are typically small in size and found up towards the surface. They are most often reddish in color, but can also be black, brown or even yellow. Positive hot rocks are not always attracted to a magnet.

                              Positive hot rocks are the most troublesome since the signal they produce most closely resembles a piece of metal. These variety produce a distinct “zip-zip” and can often be picked up several inches deep. Many sound exactly like a nugget, and practice will be needed in order to learn how to sort them out from the real thing.
                              Negative rocks, on the other hand, produce more of a “boing” sound. They are easier to deal with because the signal they generate differs considerably from that of a gold nugget. As the search coil is passed over them the threshold momentarily goes quiet, then the “boing” sound is heard. I have noticed that they can be difficult to pinpoint and at times, they seem to move around. You may also find that they will only sound off in one direction. In other words, a signal will be heard on the forward swing of the coil, but not the back swing. If this occurs, and the signal is not repeatable both ways, then the target is likely to be a hot rock.

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                              • #30
                                So now, would you say that your rock is a large rock containing Magnetite? From above description, would you classify it as negative hot rock?
                                Please, I am trying to learn some rock science.
                                If you cannot describe detector, at least describe the rock.

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