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  • PI project pre-announcement

    This message is quite related to the message from David 'Where is all the good circuits'.

    Over the last 12-month period, as a team of experienced electronic and software engineers, we have designed and implemented an ALL-digital PI detector with reliable metal discrimination capabilities.

    The current status of our project is a working hardware/software prototype version 1 successfully tested in lab.

    From the beginning of our project, we aimed at using well-selected, largely available, state-of-art components. They had to be easily mountable (no use of components existing only in CMS format), cheap (no graphic display) and minimalist (only hardware necessary for functions that can not be executed as or more flexibly by software).

    1. Coil
    - Basket-woven for minimizing internal capacitance
    2. Power supply
    - All the necessary precautions have been taken in the design and the implementation of this module to reduce the internal noise which is often a nuisance in such a high impedance, high gain system. All the power supplies are highly decoupled, a specific ground layer protects the OpAmp region and the high voltage, and high current components have been carefully separated from the high impedance components.
    3. Front-end module
    - A fast MOSFET switch able to sharply cut (200nsec) an important coil current (

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    Re: PI project pre-announcement

    What about air-tests? Which is the real results - "all metal" and "disc" sens? Which is the disc method?

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    • #3
      Re: PI project pre-announcement

      Air tests for the 200mm (8") coil.
      all-metal : 200 to 250mm (8 to 10") for coins
      reliable discri : 100 to 150 mm (4 to 6")

      Discrimination by digital analysis of LP filtered pulse decay shape.

      Clearly distinguishes between (foil, group of iron/steel, gold coin, group of alu/brass/bronze, lead, stainless, group of pull tabs/beer caps) independently of position, volume and distance of targets

      Willy

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      • #4
        Re: PI project pre-announcement

        This is good for PI-Disc, but what is the advantages compare with VLF? I encourage you R&D in Pi-Disc area using ADC and I hope for better results with bigger coils. For more you could mail [email protected].
        Good Luck!
        GG

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        • #5
          Re: PI project pre-announcement

          The advantage of PI over VLF in general is its low sensitivity to difficult ground conditions.
          We still have to make more tests with bigger coils and to test actual buried targets. It could be that these figures would change (i.e. improve).
          Willy

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          • #6
            Re: PI project pre-announcement

            We have baptized our baby: DETPIC3 (for detector based on PIC).
            However, a less technical, more funny name could have been: DIGPIC3 (for 'digital PI' or 'Dig & Pick') or even P(b)IC(g)DIG(ck)3 but this would have been too much bragging.

            Willy

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            • #7
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              schematic of kit goldpic3

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              • #8
                digpic3 availability

                This sounds great. I built a partial PIC PI machine 2 years aog and I so many problems I had to give it up. I just didn't have time to do it right.

                When will this be available, do we get to buy circuit boards, schematic, pictures, etc.

                Thanks guys - great to hear this is coming to fruition!


                Goldfinder

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                • #9
                  It seems this project may have died in the birthing. The project "pre-announcement" was 4 years ago - and there have been no follow-ups.

                  That is too bad, this looked interesting.

                  robotic regards,

                  Tom

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