Original brand or Chinese copy

[Topfmine]

During a conversation with a friend we were talking about the differences between original brand items to a Chinese copy, in this case it was the Garrett probe pointer which sells for around ?100 compared to a Chinese copy at ?15 or so. I have read that the Original brand Garrett probe pointers can have issues, not working, packing up after a few months or a year, or most working fine as normal with no problems. As with the Chinese copy's i have read similar reviews, either good or bad, in both cases.
As for Garrett its been said that the original brand probe pointers are manufactured and assembled in China as with most things, not sure if this is true or not with Garret. If so, i was wondering the differences between the Chinese copies and the Garrett brand. Apart from the casing, is it the quality of the components or the quality of the assembly work between the two. Never had the two apart on a bench before for me to examine to check both situations but my experience with Chinese electronics is that the wiring is very thin and flimsy and the soldering is much to be desired, in some cases with other Chinese made electronics just touching, a hard knock would break a wire join. To remedy such problems with such shoddy work its a matter of installing better quality wiring and a re-solder of the wiring in place and in most cases working just as good as a non Chinese copy.
What are you thoughts seeing as most brands you think are non Chinese made, turn out to be manufactured in China. Has anyone had a Garrett probe pointer and its Chinese clone apart to see the differences?

[kt315]

we are living just with chinese production. there are NOT not chinese made one around you.
so what you call 'original' is NOT original, it also done in China. i can give you links on chinese detector selling with USA MADE lable.
yes, USA has something. but it is in military strategic range.

[kt315]

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[Qiaozhi]

Garrett detectors are all made in the U.S.A.
https://www.garrett.com/counterfeit-notice

[kt315]

Wuhan coronavirus was stolen from a lab in Canada.

[ivconic]

Wuhan coronavirus was stolen from a lab in Canada.

So it's original name should be "Blackberry", right?

[Kemper]

Garrett detectors are all made in the U.S.A.
https://www.garrett.com/counterfeit-notice

" With regard to components and accessories, the company makes every effort to obtain these from U.S. sources. In some cases due to competitiveness or availability our suppliers source globally and it is necessary to offer these items to meet the needs of our customers. "

[kt315]

So it's original name should be "Blackberry", right?

how increase the depth in chinese garrett https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItqL...ature=youtu.be

[Carl-NC]

As for Garrett its been said that the original brand probe pointers are manufactured and assembled in China as with most things, not sure if this is true or not with Garret.

No, not true.

If so, i was wondering the differences between the Chinese copies and the Garrett brand. Apart from the casing, is it the quality of the components or the quality of the assembly work between the two.

My experiences come from Chinese counterfeits of White's and FTP detectors. Generally, workmanship is not as good so you can expect a higher rate of failures. Coil construction is especially shoddy and the null is likely to shift over time. I've seen some poor component substitutions (wrong type of capacitors, for example) which may cause performance problems. Also, many circuits require a few hand-matched components which the Chinese likely don't do, again degrading performance. And the units I've seen are not calibrated quite right resulting in poor ground balance or inconsistent target ID.

Chinese counterfeits are careful to exactly copy the outside look in every detail. But when you open them up and look at the circuitry, the counterfeit becomes obvious.

[Kemper]

............ Has anyone had a Garrett probe pointer and its Chinese clone apart to see the differences?

That is the question and I would be interested in knowing if /what the difference is on the internals.

[Topfmine]

I agree, i would like to see the difference, especially when you hear that some perform well as the original brand.

That is the question and I would be interested in knowing if /what the difference is on the internals.

[Skippy]

Those 'crazy Russians' have dismantled a few of these copy pinpointers. They do seem to be copies, and not clones. The PropointerAT clone looked twice as complex internally, maybe even with two microcontrollers? I notice many copies seem to use smaller-diameter ferrite rods, which will be cheaper, but give less range.
MD-Hunter:
https://md-hunter.com/tag/pinpointer/

And you'll have to translate MD-Arena:
https://md-arena.com/tag/pinpointer/
http://translate.google.pl/translate...ag/pinpointer/

I suspect some of these Chinese versions are their own original designs, and then some are Chinese clones of these original Chinese copies, that's how they seem to do it.

[SVEN1]

I agree, i would like to see the difference, especially when you hear that some perform well as the original brand.

Clones by the Chinese--check out the soldering of SMT parts vs. the real version detector. Clones parts are not soldered centered on the pads, sloppy.

[Kemper]

Does Garrett use Chinese made circuit boards in their pinpointers ? If so, do any of the Chinese made pinpointers use the same circuit boards ?

[Topfmine]

There was mention of the fakes of a Garrett 400 using the same microprocessor as the original, It seems if you buy the right fake its as good as the original, which is bad news for the manufacture and good news for the consumer who can't afford the high price of an original. Shame these Russian videos didn't have English subtitles, would have been interesting to see what they had to say.


I knew a woman at work who worked in the defense electronics industry who were trying to sell an electronic system to the Chinese. They turned up at the works with their team of interpreters who looked at the product and tried it out. When asked if they were interested in buying, they said they are thinking about it and left and went back to China. Six month later when the company chase up the sale, the Chinese said they were not interested, not the right product for them. Six months later they made the same system for themselves. I think anyone who gets their product manufactured in China or the far east, risks having it cloned and copied, no matter what patent laws they have in the west.