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  • C&G Bobcat II

    Works good now to about 5-6" not very sensitive to ladies thin gold rings or tiny objects.
    Probably why I was not impressed with the C&G VLF/TR Disc cat series back in the 1970's.
    But, will say, the TR/TR Disc Tomcat I also have is much better.


    Replaced the Electro. Caps and the voltage regulator as my first step, which is seen in the first picture.
    Then started replacing and testing parts as I went along.
    Still some parts I didn't replace, didn't finish replacing the resistors. Mostly caps and one IC LM301, that haven't been replaced yet.


    Has a second threshold below the main one, if you can set it right on edge. Performance is slightly better.
    Had a Eldorado Umax that had the same sub-threshold, barely audible. But, was there. The Bobcat sub-threshold is as loud as the main threshold. You can hear the difference in tone and clarity.


    Still have some scratchiness in the volume control from about half to 3/4 rotation, no audio. Threshold audio begins about 3/4 to full. Changing to a brand new pot did not solve the problem.


    Still trying to find out why the detector threshold drift from being heard to not being heard. Originally you would have to press the retune button every 10 seconds to bring the threshold back to normal. Now it's about 40 seconds before the retune will need to be pressed. Not sure if it might be the coil? I do have another coil that would work from a Lynx model. Just need to put a connector on the cable.
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    The retune uses the CA3130 with a couple of sample/hold circuits. If the threshold drifts it is undoubtedly because one or both of these S/Hs are drifting. This can be because of opamp input bias currents, leaky caps, 4016 off-resistance, or PCB leakage. If you have not replaced the 0.47u caps I would start there. Then make sure you clean all the flux around the opamp input pins.

    From the data sheet & calculations the worst-case drift should be ~50uV/s at the output of the CA3130, or ~2.5mV/s at the output of the LM358. That would be 100mV in 40s. I don't know if that's enough to make it go quiet.

    You probably already have this:

    BOBCAT_II.pdf

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    • #3
      Thank you, give that a try.

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      • #4
        I'm pretty sure it's the Intesel chip. The substrate suffers from degression or degeneration. Change the 3130 and your problem is solved. If you can find an original replacement that is. Try an NTE cross reference, I know they have 3140 or 3160 direct replacement.

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        • #5
          By the way, that's a nice metal detector you've got there. I'm sure if you're into the business of winding your own coils. Real old school. That bobcat coil was not conventional, if I can recall correctly. There's a video on YouTube.
          https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=svC7M2mmhf4
          Wildcat, same thing.

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          • #6
            It's a coaxial coil.

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            • #7
              I meant Intersil. Coaxial coil, that's it!
              Hmm, my spelling is a bit off tonight, oh well.

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              • #8
                I replaced the can 3130's . Drifting before and after replacing.

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                • #9
                  Thanks Carl.
                  Replaced the two 0.47u caps. No more drifting, steady threshold. Performance much better now.

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