Get FCC Approved!

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Carl,



You question me. Could it be possible that you people are the ones who are incorrect? I can show you a lot of posts where you people just reply with a claim without any logic, science, step-by-step process or anything. Yes, everyone including myself makes posts with just claims, but I do not run away from a discussion when someone is pointing to my error. If you have some error that I made then BY ALL MEANS post it ... post the details, my quotes, the logic in a step by step coherent manner. I'm not going to run away. I have no fear, zilch, nada of being wrong.



I have to question what's really happening here. I could care a less if Dave or Eric make a fortune and pass up Minelab. If they do then hopefully they'll put the money to good use. I am interested in the facts and if I read an FCC document that makes clear statements and I post them and you come back with yet more statements like "The 100mW limitation has nothing at all to do with metal detectors. Nor do (b) or (c)." and that's it ... then what I am to think? Why do you people like to make claims and insults so much?



Trust me guy, I know what you're trying to do and there's nothing in this world you can do to hurt me. I have to laugh at your latest attempt. BTW, what's your last name guy?



Let me know when you're interested in a discussion without fear of being wrong. I see this all time where people make claims. As soon as I show proof they make up some excuse to leave the discussion.



Also, I challenge you again for any evidence. For every one of my negative posts I will show you exactly where that person insulted me first. Do you care to dip into a world of mind over emotions and drop the fuzzy logic? I'll be MORE than happy to admit error. At least you acknowledged what Reg said to me and what his clear English words conveyed. You offered your opinion that he did not mean it personally. Did it ever occur to you that it's not such interpretations (reading between the lines) I'm interested in. Rather it's what he said. I merely told Reg I did not appreciate what he said ... that's it. And he comes back and calls me and my quote of his words lie and he's not going to reply anymore. Wow! Come on Carl. I think you really see the truth here, but you're afraid to death to go against your peeps. These people can insult me forever, lol. Their emotional mentality has no effect on me. When they post details, coherent step-by-step logic then I closely read what they have to say.



Paul

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More character attacks Electo? At least I have no fear of posting my true name, including my last name ... ElectroNovice

Paul

[ElectroNovice]

What do you have against Minelab? If they can get away with selling a GP3500 for about $3500 then don't you think that means something?

Paul

Very simple. When the early Sd came out they promised that any future upgrades would be done by circuit upgrades to the current platform.Well we know what happened to that idea! To get an "upgrade" we had to buy a new model! An sd2000,then sd2100,then sd2200,gp extreme,gp 3000 ,then gp3500. Also the gp 3500 is only correcting some silly ergonomic mistakes made with the 3000. The improvements in performance in my view are marginal from the extreme to the Gp3500,a lot more bells and whistles and better on fly **** gold but NO more depth on the big stuff and you still can't use a mono coil over very very bad ground, the 3500 still suffers from em interference forcing you to use cancel mode or buy an anti interfrence coil where you lose heaps of depth. I could go on with more. Erics machine leaves the gp3500 for dead in its ability to handle very bad ground with a mono coil and is far more resistant to EM interference and Eric uses properly shielded coils.
ElectroNovice

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I hope you're correct about Eric's machine and you make good points. I am not Bruce, but you have to admit that ML PI's have made a lot of happy people. It's a relatively old machine and sure there's a new wave of better machines coming out. Still what about veterans who are using ML's right now such as Montana Bob from the U.S., Chris Gholson from U.S., JP from Oz ... If they are not presently using them then I apologize. I have no idea and perhaps I crossed between some web site war or perhaps a company war.



Paul

[Charles (Upstate NY)]

What do you have against Minelab? If they can get away with selling a GP3500 for about $3500 then don't you think that means something?

Paul

I think I'll send Dick Shultz at ML USA an email, they may wish to review your many posts Paul. I'm a big ML fan and supporter, I have 5 top of the line ML machines but one thing I like about ML is they don't badmouth other brands. They seem content to let the machines and finds do the talking.

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I think I'll send Dick Shultz at ML USA an email, they may wish to review your many posts Paul. I'm a big ML fan and supporter, I have 5 top of the line ML machines but one thing I like about ML is they don't badmouth other brands. They seem content to let the machines and finds do the talking.

Now you do that Charles, LOL. BTW, I challenge you to show me one post where I bad mouthed another product. I suspect yet another claim without any backing.



Paul

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What's funny is if anyone bad mouthed ML it's Electro, but I guess in your emotional rage you have one agenda.



Paul

[Charles (Upstate NY)]

I'd much rather have electronovice badmouthing my product than some whacko like you on my side. LMAO

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Truthfully you sound like a psychopath with your name calling and threats. Let me know when you care to have a civilized conversation.



Paul

[Charles (Upstate NY)]

Now you do that Charles, LOL. BTW, I challenge you to show me one post where I bad mouthed another product. I suspect yet another claim without any backing.



Paul

Okay here's one of your many quotes dummy, this one was in reference to the pulse devil, Paul said..."I'll take depth over any useless gizmo disc".

That is a clear example of badmouthing another brand so why don't you shut your hole because you are clearly a moron.

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Okay here's one of your many quotes dummy, this one was in reference to the pulse devil, Paul said..."I'll take depth over any useless gizmo disc".

That is a clear example of badmouthing another brand so why don't you shut your hole because you are clearly a moron.

This nasty name calling and such is getting old, but I'll admit it's a great personal steppingstone. I try to have compassion for you.

Thanks BTW for at least quoting. That is better than a simple claim.

Now I'll remind you the definition of badmouthing:

"To criticize or disparage, often spitefully or unfairly."

Key word above is "unfairly." Now it would be unfair to make a claim and not attempt to back it up in a coherent logical manner. I clearly spent a great deal of time providing coherent scientific reasons to back up my words. The part of using discrimination to dig everything is a personal preference and I clearly stated that, but it was be to your advantage to leave out that quote. Lets try to be unbiased. Also I clearly stated that the Pulse Devil could be tricked. I will remind you that Carl agreed with me on that point. I opened the topic up for discussion very much willing to listen to logic.

That being said, I was being fair. I agree that the wording "useless gizmo" is strong verbiage and if I offended anyone than I apologize for that. For myself it might be a useless feature, but I made it clear that discriminating (not digging every target) is a personal preference.

I have a theory, which I'll keep to myself for now, but it seemed you have some connection with Dave. Surely you would not mind if I divulged the details of my PI design now would you? Eric has already stated his opinion.

Do you think we can end this off topic?


Paul

[Charles (Upstate NY)]

This nasty name calling and such is getting old, but I'll admit it's a great personal steppingstone. I try to have compassion for you.

Thanks BTW for at least quoting. That is better than a simple claim.

Now I'll remind you the definition of badmouthing:

"To criticize or disparage, often spitefully or unfairly."

Key word above is "unfairly." Now it would be unfair to make a claim and not attempt to back it up in a coherent logical manner. I clearly spent a great deal of time providing coherent scientific reasons to back up my words. The part of using discrimination to dig everything is a personal preference and I clearly stated that, but it was be to your advantage to leave out that quote. Lets try to be unbiased. Also I clearly stated that the Pulse Devil could be tricked. I will remind you that Carl agreed with me on that point. I opened the topic up for discussion very much willing to listen to logic.

That being said, I was being fair. I agree that the wording "useless gizmo" is strong verbiage and if I offended anyone than I apologize for that. For myself it might be a useless feature, but I made it clear that discriminating (not digging every target) is a personal preference.

I have a theory, which I'll keep to myself for now, but it seemed you have some connection with Dave. Surely you would not mind if I divulged the details of my PI design now would you? Eric has already stated his opinion.

Do you think we can end this off topic?


Paul

Blah blah blah, you are clueless and starting to really bore me. Here just insert this as my answer to your next 200 posts, "Yawn, whatever!"

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JC1

Weeee,,,,,

oh boy, you guys are having too much fun.

I have spoken with the FCC about this very issue.

And other equipment.

It had me wondering about the law, the world, whatever

years ago. Didn't make sense.

Didn't see FCC tag on detectors.

FCC guy told me metal detectors are classed (in the U.S.)

as a intermittant interrupter (s.p.). so no tag.

If you interfere you have to turn it off.

World is changing, RF pollution everywhere, so the EU/CE/whatever may have a different story.

So may the U.S.

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Thanks for info. Do you know where that's stated? A google search on the entire FCC site http://www.fcc.gov mentions no laws about Metal Detectors. Also I see no mention of either word, "interrupter" or "intermittent." I'm wondering what wording they use to dismiss Metal Detectors.

Paul

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JC1

Hi Paul,

I did this years ago and don't know if it is current or not.

I never could find anything written about this.

I read Article 15 and all the rest and couldn't find anything anywhere.

You can call them too and they pretty much won't tell you anything definite about anything.

It was only because I was getting stuff approved for a company which did need it that I got one guy to tell me how metal detectors were classed. or dealt with or whatever.

Now this of course does not mean that if you build a detector that works at T.V. or radio station frequencies that it will be approved. In fact they don't "approve" anything.

but they will disapprove stuff, later on if you are a problem.

Self regulation is what they have gone too, so computer manufacturers kinda self approve and they don't have stickkers either.