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[hung]

Tinkerer,

You are absolutely correct. You described with precision the phenomena involved in the ocean. The ionization in those environemtns is intense, although humidity is high too.
That's why Mineoro clains detection of ionic fields in the sea is 4 times higher than on land.

[Jim]

Who is Charles D. Rake?

From Charles D. Rake's book (pages 56-57):

Who is Charles D. Rake, and where can one find data he created to support this claim?

[Jim]

Halo Effect

Halo effect

In the ocean, a silver or copper object can create a halo of hundreds of feet over a certain amount of time. How does this work?
Sea water is a very aggressive environment. It oxidizes most metals and leaches ions out of coins. Not only the surface, it actually manages to penetrate deep into metal surfaces. To remove the salt from within silver coins that have been submersed a few hundred years, demands a lengthy electrolytic process. If not done that way, the coin will tarnish again within a very short time.
Anyway, the water at the bottom of the ocean is in constant movement.
Most marine life takes advantage of this movement. One organism in particular, commonly called a sea fan, always grows perpendicular to the prevailing currents and nourishes itself by filtering the sea water.
Over a lifespan of filtering the water it accumulates many minerals but also metallic ions that are floating in the current.
With the use of spectrometry ( saw a used HP one for sale at $5000 on the net) one can detect higher than average concentrations of metals in the samples taken in alignment with the prevailing currents.
OK now the secret is out. This method has been known used with success by very few shipwreck treasure hunters.

Next post, about how a silver or copper coin creates a halo on land.

Tinkerer

I think if you utilize this theory, the coins (gold/silver) would eventually disintegrate into nothing. And, we all knows that ain’t so

[hung]

I think if you utilize this theory, the coins (gold/silver) would eventually disintegrate into nothing. And, we all knows that ain’t so

Correct. But gold coins for instance would desintegrate at much, much slower rate and would keep releasing ions as they loose mass.

[Carl-NC]

Gold doesn't oxidize at all. Even in salt water.

[hung]

Gold doesn't oxidize at all. Even in salt water.

Yes, but not talking about oxidation.

[Carl-NC]

Yes, but not talking about oxidation.

" Sea water is a very aggressive environment. It oxidizes most metals and leaches ions out of coins."

Gold doesn't oxidize at all. Nor does it dissolve. Even in salt water.

[hung]

" Sea water is a very aggressive environment. It oxidizes most metals and leaches ions out of coins."

Gold doesn't oxidize at all. Nor does it dissolve. Even in salt water.

Correct. But in the case of gold and al metals, loss of atomic mass is involved. That's what I was refering.

[Jim]

Huh?

Correct. But in the case of gold and al metals, loss of atomic mass is involved. That's what I was refering.

"Loss of atomic mass"...all I can do is chortle

[Carl-NC]

Correct. But in the case of gold and al metals, loss of atomic mass is involved. That's what I was refering.

Gold doesn't dissolve. It doesn't lose mass.

[hung]

This is from the Mineoro site. 50 years reseaching the subject. Quite a few isnt?
Let their words be my words.
Someday you will know.

It is because the matter - all and any substance - loses atomic weight, it loses atoms liberated from matter in form of negative "ions" and positive "ions". These ions are everywhere in the Universe. In our solar system, in the atmospheric space and cosmic space, in Earth as a whole. In the ground, underground and in the center of the Planet. Therefore, everywhere we have ionic fields spreading in all directions. Our physical body is losing atomic weight during 24 hours. Our clothes, our hair, our shoes, our houses, furniture, food, and fresh water, salty water, all and any liquid, or gas, everything in any state of matter loses atomic weight in form of ions.

[Carl-NC]

For gold, this is wrong.

[michael]

Gold doesn't dissolve. It doesn't lose mass.

won't be dissolved? why not?
I have wrote this before and here repeat it:
gold easily is dissolved in Hydrochloric acid (HCl) especially in mix of HCl + HNo3(3/1).
there is a simple chemical theorem; when you dissolve a salt(e.g. NaCl) in water it produces an acid + base. when is NaCl this happens: NaCl + H2o gives HCl + NaoH. especially when be under pressure, slight heat and long time it will interact on gold and gives compounds such as; AuCl3[ gold(III)-chloride] or HAuCl4.3H2o (gold trichloride acid trihydrate) or for platinum; PtCl2 & PtCl4.
In nature may be happens such an action and interaction or little different that induces a kind of halo.
Can you definitely decline these with 100% certainty?

[Esteban]

I insist, and sorry for the "unbelievers": is very different a coin buried now than another buried for 100 years. Maybe Mr. Rakes isn't a Guru, but I respect him for his experience and several publications. I prefer conduct experiments and not dissapoint all the persons.

In Geotech front page some projects by Charles D. Rakes:

Metal Detector Circuits (misc) (Charles Rakes, Popular Electronics) Three circuits from the Circuit Circus column

Metal Detector Circuits I & II (Charles Rakes, Poptronics)

Two-box IB Detector Outdated design


This is the cover of the book:

[Jim]

Charles D. Rakes

I insist, and sorry for the "unbelievers": is very different a coin buried now than another buried for 100 years. Maybe Mr. Rakes isn't a Guru, but I respect him for his experience and several publications. I prefer conduct experiments and not dissapoint all the persons.

OK, thanks for the explanation. I was googling for "Rake" and not "Rakes".