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  • Garrett Treasure Ace 100

    Recently I made some tests on the Garrett Treasure Ace 100:

    This is not a deep seeker, but the discrimination is very good. I also found that it was good in trashy or iron infested areas. It has an 8" Crossfire coil that can locate small nonferrous targets easily.

    Here's some results of an air test:
    All tests were made with the discriminator control set to reject a large iron nail. This corresponded to the 5 cent setting on the dial. Depth measurements were determined by a consistent signal, and were recorded to the nearest 0.5" (rounded down).

    1878 Victorian penny = 7.5"
    1978 British 1p = 6"
    1992 British 10p = 5.5"
    1983 British £1 = 6.5"
    1987 Singapore 20 cents = 5"
    1997 Singapore 50 cents = 6"
    Pull tab = 6.5"
    1977 2 Deutsche Marks 6.5"
    1957 1 Deutsche Mark = 5.5"
    1979 U.S. Liberty Dollar = 7"
    2000 U.S. Liberty Dollar = 7"
    1998 U.S. dime = 5.5"
    2002 Australian 5 cents = 4"
    2003 Euro 1 cent = 4"
    2003 Euro 2 cent = 4.5"
    1999 Euro 5 cent = 5.5"
    1999 Euro 10 cent 6"
    1999 Euro 20 cent = 6.5"
    2000 Euro 50 cent = 6.5"
    1797 George III copper coin = 8"
    circa 1425 Henry iV hammered silver = 4.5"
    1888 Silver threepenny bit = 5"
    1898 Silver sixpence = 6"
    1865 Silver shilling = 6.5"
    1899 Farthing = 5.5"
    17mm diam Roman coin = 4.5"
    22mm diam Roman coin = 5.5"
    32mm diam Roman coin = 8"
    3.5" x 5.5" OXO tin lid = 15"
    Coca Cola tin = 13"

    In "All Metal Mode" there was an increase in depth of between 0.5" and 1" depending on the target type and size. In some cases (such as the U.S. dollars) there was no change.

    See photos below:
    Note that there is a small potentiometer on the PCB (top left - second photo). The original setting is in the middle. This was tested in various positions, and it was found that only the sensitivity appears to be affected, but not the discrimination.
    Attached Files

  • #2
    Originally posted by Qiaozhi View Post
    Note that there is a small potentiometer on the PCB (top left - second photo). The original setting is in the middle. This was tested in various positions, and it was found that only the sensitivity appears to be affected, but not the discrimination.
    In retrospect this small potentiometer appears to be the factory set ground balance control. Since this control is located on the PCB, and the control box needs to assembled for the batteries to be connected, I had to re-adjust the GB setting using crocodile clips (to connect the batteries) and an icecream tub full of soil.
    This is always the problem when you can't help messing with things.

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    • #3
      can you write type of chips , or give clear picture to see elements value?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by rumensat View Post
        can you write type of chips , or give clear picture to see elements value?
        High resolution files uploaded here ->
        http://www.mytempdir.com/1137436
        http://www.mytempdir.com/1137440

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        • #5
          Also look here, there maybe are some similarities:

          http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showt...d=1#post135685

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          • #6
            Qiaozhi has not noted that the Euro coins 1, 2 ad 5 cents are ferrous. The ACE 100 should discriminate them.

            Ivica, I have several questions about your circuit of ACE 300.
            Are you sure that U3 is powered by battery voltage? How is generated supply rail 5V? There is something wrong about operating point of U3. Please check again where is connected the left lead of R18.
            Attached Files

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            • #7
              Originally posted by mikebg View Post
              Qiaozhi has not noted that the Euro coins 1, 2 ad 5 cents are ferrous. The ACE 100 should discriminate them.
              Although the Euro cent coins have a ferrous base, the amount of non-ferrous material is higher, relative to the ferrous. The result is that these coins will only be discriminated against if you increase the amount of trash rejection. It is still very easy to reject an iron nail and accept a Euro coin.

              Even 1 Euro and 2 Euro coins have a ferrous base, like most modern coinage. They will both stick to a magnet.

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              • #8
                Qiaozhi
                how good is the Ace 100 at eliminating/rejecting bottle caps ?
                I hate bottle caps

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                • #9
                  Can't speak for the 100, but the Ace250 and the GTI1500 are really worse concerning discriminating bottle caps an' I'm almost shure the 100 will be the same! Especially those from beer. Most o' the time they are shown at the "good coins" / silver range that usually shouldn't be disc'ed.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by 6666 View Post
                    Qiaozhi
                    how good is the Ace 100 at eliminating/rejecting bottle caps ?
                    I hate bottle caps
                    Bottle caps are always difficult to reject. I sold the Garrett Ace 100 some time ago, and unfortunately cannot make the test to give you an answer.

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                    • #11
                      Hi
                      ok thanks Qiaozhi

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                      • #12
                        > Bottle caps are always difficult to reject.

                        Or in other words: easy to and not avoidable to find.

                        6666, change your attitude concerning that topic,
                        don't hate them but collect them or use them as
                        sign that someone already has been at this site.

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                        • #13
                          People tend to loose things where beer is drunk

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                          • #14
                            pelanj People tend to loose things where beer is drunk
                            Good point, hey people DRINK MORE BEER



                            check out the pictures on this thread for bottle caps
                            http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showp...7&postcount=64

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by mikebg View Post
                              Qiaozhi has not noted that the Euro coins 1, 2 ad 5 cents are ferrous. The ACE 100 should discriminate them.

                              Ivica, I have several questions about your circuit of ACE 300.
                              Are you sure that U3 is powered by battery voltage? How is generated supply rail 5V? There is something wrong about operating point of U3. Please check again where is connected the left lead of R18.
                              I searched through my files and found out that actually i never finished tracing!
                              So i can not properly answer your question.
                              I just added additional files here:


                              http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showt...795#post135795

                              Maybe you will find the answer there.

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