Problems in Tesoro Lobo Super Traq

[ivconic]

please do not compare Tesoro and Deus. last one has preamplifer in the coil and full schematic of end amplifier also in the coil.
digitally processed signal TX is translating in the main box. NO NOISE, SHORTEST SIGNALS WIRES, MAXIMALLY POSSIBLE DEPTH FOR VLF.

ABSOLUTELY DIFFERENT THINGS!

You don't get it... all the worse for Deus!
Because as you can see in the video; Deus didn't perform well at all!
All the time I want to tell Ruben not to be disappointed in the slightest.
Lobo is a great machine as it is.

[ivconic]

I had a Fisher Goldbug, Goldbug Pro, Minelab GP3000 and a few more "nugget hunting" detectors for sure, I don't remember which ones now.
None of them were "deep" otherwise... That's their "specialty".
They are made to be very sensitive to gold nuggets and native gold above all.
And that's why they have very precise and fine filters that will process subtle signals with subtle differences.
That's the point. That's why there is so much "hardware" in Lobo.
"Depths" are irrelevant here.
You simply shouldn't mix apples and pears.
Such detectors are designed for a completely different way of working than others.
And you can't assess their real value in the workshop on the table.
But only in the real conditions for which they were designed.
...
Maybe someone "played" with the trimmers in that Lobo, who knows?
Maybe that's how he messed up the factory condition.
And so maybe the detector behaves a little differently.
You won't know until you find another colleague who has the same model and compare the behavior of both detectors.
...
Ruben; it would be good, if you have time and will, to record a video in a similar way as I did; to show the behavior of the detector on similar targets.
Then we will be able to better assess whether the detector is completely ok or not.

[Ruben2000]

I had a Fisher Goldbug, Goldbug Pro, Minelab GP3000 and a few more "nugget hunting" detectors for sure, I don't remember which ones now.
None of them were "deep" otherwise... That's their "specialty".
They are made to be very sensitive to gold nuggets and native gold above all.
And that's why they have very precise and fine filters that will process subtle signals with subtle differences.
That's the point. That's why there is so much "hardware" in Lobo.
"Depths" are irrelevant here.
You simply shouldn't mix apples and pears.
Such detectors are designed for a completely different way of working than others.
And you can't assess their real value in the workshop on the table.
But only in the real conditions for which they were designed.
...
Maybe someone "played" with the trimmers in that Lobo, who knows?
Maybe that's how he messed up the factory condition.
And so maybe the detector behaves a little differently.
You won't know until you find another colleague who has the same model and compare the behavior of both detectors.
...
Ruben; it would be good, if you have time and will, to record a video in a similar way as I did; to show the behavior of the detector on similar targets.
Then we will be able to better assess whether the detector is completely ok or not.

Tomorrow I will make the video, I don't have any object that is gold to make the demonstration; but I will do it with some other objects.
I thought the same thing about the trimmers, maybe someone moved them from their factory state. I was even making the schematic diagram of the Tx stage and the Disc. so that it is easier to locate the fault; But as I have seen in the video that I shared, I think that my detector is within the parameters of the video.

[kt315]

You don't get it... all the worse for Deus!
Because as you can see in the video; Deus didn't perform well at all!
All the time I want to tell Ruben not to be disappointed in the slightest.
Lobo is a great machine as it is.

his coil is very small and not DD. you compare uncompareable. you again violate the rules - you can just compare equal things, not different.

[ivconic]

It's hard to get along with you KT315. This is like speaking Chinese to someone who only speaks Klingon!
Is it possible that you understand English so badly? Or is my English that bad?
If you use an online translator; then that translator doesn't work well.
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I am not comparing NOTHING!
I just wanted to show that even the Deus is not good enough on a target like the 1N4148 diode, that's all.



Where were you from?
Lithuania, Latvia, Belarus, Tajikistan or Uganda?
Remind me and I will write you an explanation in that language.
To make it clear to you what my post with the video means.

[kt315]

on a target like the 1N4148 diode

the diode is pins made from stainless steel, covered very thin lead stannous solder. no gold. in the electronics whole gold had been changed
on 'gold substitute'.

[Ruben2000]

What was promised is a debt, here is the video I made!
Try with iron, copper, 1 sol and 50 cent coins (copper, zinc and nickel alloy), 10 cent coin (brass), 1N4148 diode and 1N4148 diode without terminals. The test on all of them was done in all metal mode, the other selector in normal mode, sensitivity 10.
Then the tests were carried out only with the diodes in all-metal mode and it was changed first to ALKALI mode and then to Black Sand mode.
Then I tested the diodes in discrimination mode and set the discrimination level to half and the Threshold to half.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjpcmzU6YNc

[Carl-NC]

Looks to me like everything is working properly. The coins seem to be breaking the threshold at around 30cm which is very decent. I suspect your diodes have steel leads (mine do) which is why they are not detected in disc mode. Cut some small pieces of household aluminum foil, say, 5x5 mm and 10x10 mm to mimic small gold.

[Ruben2000]

Looks to me like everything is working properly. The coins seem to be breaking the threshold at around 30cm which is very decent. I suspect your diodes have steel leads (mine do) which is why they are not detected in disc mode. Cut some small pieces of household aluminum foil, say, 5x5 mm and 10x10 mm to mimic small gold.

ok Carl, I'll do what you say. Thanks for your point of view!

[ivconic]

Sometimes I'm wrong in my judgment and sometimes I'm right. The detector is perfectly fine.
A video always says more than 1000 words.



P,S.
Some other people on some other threads adamantly disagree with this.