TESORO GOLDEN SABRE

[Darko]

Hi Darko,

Sorry, I have only the schematic.

Regards!

Well, then I'll try to design one just for testing, when got some time for that. I think Royal quite similar with TGS and this sholdn't be hard to realize . I hope it is worth to see advantage of this machine. Thanks anyway.

Regards,
Darko

[gagi_pirot]

Ok. Thanx ya all for stuff U advices me 4, especialy GEO & MAX. I order some parts and i'll pick them up in 2 days. Till' then so' long

[1843]

Well, then I'll try to design one just for testing, when got some time for that. I think Royal quite similar with TGS and this sholdn't be hard to realize . I hope it is worth to see advantage of this machine. Thanks anyway.

Regards,
Darko

Why?
Don't waste your time... As Max said, it is not as goog as Goldensabre...

Kind regards,
1843

[Max]

Well, then I'll try to design one just for testing, when got some time for that. I think Royal quite similar with TGS and this sholdn't be hard to realize . I hope it is worth to see advantage of this machine. Thanks anyway.

Regards,
Darko

Hi,
if you wanna try royal sabre you can do with a bit more of efforts and goodwill.
Me personally think that's somehow not good cause, as also ApBerg said, it's ,more complicated and don't give real big improvements.

About depth it will be about the same of TGS if right optimized: oscillator is the same, rx preamp is about the same, integrators are similar etc... same power and same circuit and parts mean about same depth.

The real advantages are the pinpointing mode and the "two-tones-id", though a bit complex to use cause one must take care of notch pot setting to have that target id working good.

I'd like to test the pinpoint mod I've posted on my TGS but unfortunately I can't at now... cause I need it up and running and cannot dismantle again. I'm sure that changing all-metal mode to non-motion and adding retune the TGS will act just like royal in pinpointing mode... and only loss will be the 2-tones disc... that personally I think is not so good implemented that way.

TGS is already a very nice machine and very similar to royal and others... but the big advantage to me is the simple implementation... much more simple than e.g. toltec100 or royal... making e.g. a pcb for toltec100 will be a real challenge for anyone cause of really huge and messy circuit.

Best regards,
Max

[detectoman]

Hi,
is discontinued dual channel BW 15MHz scope... (of great brand)...if in good conditions and working it's just right what you need here to see all stuff on the screen.

Don't know if 100usd is good price for it anyway... but if is in good shape think that could be fine.

Kind regards,
Max
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[Darko]

This two tone target ID was interesting for me but I think now, I will all of my attention point to finish repairing my TGS. Thank you Max, and thank you 1843.

Regards,
Darko
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[Qiaozhi]

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Hi Detectoman,

How about this for your avatar?

[ivconic]

Hello Frends.

The Royal Sabre is not the same as the golden pcb.
Think it is not a good project to make !!
Keep it simple.....

Best regards.

Ap

ApBerg, friend, can you post top/bottom scan or print of this pcb?
Winter is coming, i would have more than enough time to experiment....I would like to make this also...If it is possible...
Many thanks in advance!
Best regards!

[Max]

ApBerg, friend, can you post top/bottom scan or print of this pcb?
Winter is coming, i would have more than enough time to experiment....I would like to make this also...If it is possible...
Many thanks in advance!
Best regards!

Hi,
yes winter is coming... also now rains too much for my taste...and I cannot use my assembled TGS ...I've reduced total weight to 1,45Kg now... and is light and comfortable...as never before.

Do you think the royal is worth a try ? Cause of dual-tone id ?

To me is complex enough and with just so few improvements to discourage further experimenting with... but of course, you can find it good for new experiences about VLFs.

I think that Lobo is a good new candidate... and at same complexity level of tgs.

I think instead that the toltec100 is much more interesting...say an order of magnitude more... but the schematics is so complicated that I give up with it from start... it's not an easy or even "normal" DIY project!

What's truly interesting in toltec100 is the multiple-tone-id and also the meter id... but I think it's one of the most difficault projects here one can try... much like e.g. CZ-5 or Goldscan: real challenge and just for experts.
What do you think about that?

Best regards,
Max

[detectoman]

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gulp
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detectoman, the detectorist non plus

[detectoman]

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but.....
........ how i drive this stuff...??????? panel is some control instuments of cabine of transborder spacial columbus
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thanks detectoman

[Qiaozhi]

qiaozhi

gulp
who is these?
where you sacastes ese, mira pues, is brother of superman? edition european
ohh nouuuuuu
i am very beauty what this
un abrazo para usted qui----- fiuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
detectoman, the detectorist non plus

Hi Detectoman,

I'm not sure what you said - but it's a good avatar, don't you think?
Yes - looks like SuperMan's cousin. You can use it like this ->

[ivconic]

Max, i reduced weight of my TGSL to 2.2kg...

I dont know...? I do not bother myself with device complexity, never. Usually main reason to build or not to build some device is if i have good pcb for it or not.... If i had pcb draws i would make any good detector by now....My main problem are pcb's and (eventually) som rare component, hard to find in shops....
Lobo...? If pcb draw exist for it...i will make it for sure...Long winter here in mountains....nothing to do
Usually i am hyperactive, i dont sit at home 4-5 hours daily...but now...damn rain!
Max... i'll send you pm now...
Regards!

[Max]

ahhhhhhhh ok very good, this day i have one oscilloscope, ohhhhh,
but.....
........ how i drive this stuff...??????? panel is some control instuments of cabine of transborder spacial columbus
buaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
ok relax relax little tecnic
say me what i can t move whitout riskkkkkkkkkkk of short burn circuit???????
mammmmmmmmmmm
thanks detectoman

Hi detectoman,
thanks for greetings I wanna reply with mine too.

About scope you can find informations in spanish on oscilloscope (general) at:

http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osciloscopio

and a small but good tutorial (in spanish too) on the hameg's website at:

http://www.hameg.es/osc/osc.htm

that's more than enoygh to start understanding how it works and how you can use it.

It's a really powerful instrument if you can use it right... and so I think you'll be fine after a while using it with success.

Enjoy !

Kind regards,
Max

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Elie

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but.....
........ how i drive this stuff..buaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
ok relax relax little move whitout riskkkkkkkkkkk... burn
mammmmmmmmmmm
thanks

I think Elie was on top of detectoman today on bed, oh what an expressions