TESORO GOLDEN SABRE

[nelson]

HAPPY YOU ARE BACK AGAIN

HI IVCONIC.
JUST TO SAY HELLO AND I M HAPPY YOU ARE BACK AGAIN. I HOPE HEALTH IS FINE BY NOW.
TALKING ABOUT PI, I M CONSTRUCTING A NEW ONE SIDE PCB DELTA PULSE TOO, SO I HOPE TO FINISH IT SOON.
BEST REGARDS
NELSON

Nice to hear that, Fred! You don't need to put GEB on front panel, you only need to preset it right. Already explained on this thread. But i will suggest you to adjust it to point where is just about to reject ferrite rod.OK you can leave it to produce some mum "crack's" when ferrite rod is few mm's away from coil surface. You dont need to fully reject it. Sdjusted that way, GEB preset will suit your demands on most of types of terrains.
The rest you already experienced (as i see from your post) so no need for further comments. Again congratulation! You've made it right!

Other friends here; i am pretty good now, health problems solved.
Reason i am not showing oftenly here is that i have nothing new to offer. I lost continuity in my works due unexpected problems. Now i need some time to back to bussiness...

Interesting enough is Tesoro Royal Sabre. I was thinking to make it.
Generaly, it is the very same type of detector as Golden Sabre, only with some extra modes. I guess it will be easy to use same coils with it.
Those few Tesoro's designs are very good. Performances are indeed close to performances of newest,todays designs. Of course keep in mind that those are analogue, while newest detectors do involve some "digital" features.
As far as i am concerned, i am pretty satisfied with complete analogue design, as long as it suits my expectations on real field. No need to repeat that i already done a lot of "terrains" with this TGSL i already mad. Results were great (as i posted earlier). To much finds with it, so far. More than satisfied!

Fred, if you want to make really good PI tha i can suggest you to make Delta Pulse. I made over 20 of those so far. Indeed excellent PI design!
Friends,
very Best regards!

[Fred]

Hi Neslon,
I am using this PCB, same as yours?
i will use replace TL062 by TL082
and LF357 by LF353.
Good luck!
Fred.

[Max]

Nice to hear that, Fred! You don't need to put GEB on front panel, you only need to preset it right. Already explained on this thread. But i will suggest you to adjust it to point where is just about to reject ferrite rod.OK you can leave it to produce some mum "crack's" when ferrite rod is few mm's away from coil surface. You dont need to fully reject it. Sdjusted that way, GEB preset will suit your demands on most of types of terrains.
The rest you already experienced (as i see from your post) so no need for further comments. Again congratulation! You've made it right!

Other friends here; i am pretty good now, health problems solved.
Reason i am not showing oftenly here is that i have nothing new to offer. I lost continuity in my works due unexpected problems. Now i need some time to back to bussiness...

Interesting enough is Tesoro Royal Sabre. I was thinking to make it.
Generaly, it is the very same type of detector as Golden Sabre, only with some extra modes. I guess it will be easy to use same coils with it.
Those few Tesoro's designs are very good. Performances are indeed close to performances of newest,todays designs. Of course keep in mind that those are analogue, while newest detectors do involve some "digital" features.
As far as i am concerned, i am pretty satisfied with complete analogue design, as long as it suits my expectations on real field. No need to repeat that i already done a lot of "terrains" with this TGSL i already mad. Results were great (as i posted earlier). To much finds with it, so far. More than satisfied!

Fred, if you want to make really good PI tha i can suggest you to make Delta Pulse. I made over 20 of those so far. Indeed excellent PI design!
Friends,
very Best regards!

Hi Ivconic,
nice to hear you are fine. So we'll keep on business here... nice!

Have you took a look at LRL stuff ??? There's a radiocircuit that seems not as usual a nonsense... and we have components values (thanks to Morgan) and pcb designs( 6 small boards and a bunch of stuff all easy apart one "special" resistor)... what do you think ? It's worth a try ?

Anyway, I'm very happy you are again here.

Kind regards (and, of course, Merry Christmas),
Max

[ivconic]

Hi Max!
No, havent looked yet? I'll see now, thanks for info!
Best regards Max!

[Max]

Hi,
I have just tried my new DD coil, here are the results.
All tests where made in air, with a 1 dollar coin,38mm diameter.Coil is 20cm diameter

When at maximum,the "sens" pot is at 5 o´clock, here i get a few random beeps,i reduce it to 4 o´clock and it is perfect.
-With ground ballance pot a one side (no ground balance),all metal,i could detect the coin at more than 45cm!! With sens at max, barely detectable at almost 50cm. I had to fix the coin on a 1m plastic pipe to avoid detecting my hand.
-With GB properly set, all metal,38cm.
-"Disc" on , 27cm

Now i want to put the GB pot on the front , i let a space for this.
The TGS i really an excellent detector!

Thanks for all who helped here to build it , in particular Qiaozhi,Max,Ivconic Etc.
If i find a treasure i will let you know
No i am going to build to the next project, a PI.
Best regards to all! ,
Fred.

Hi,
well done ! That's the way of doing coils... yeah !

I can get an halfcrown (32mm diameter copper-nickel alloy) at very far distance using 10''... also in disc mode but cannot say here exact numbers of this experiment...otherwise people here will start thinking I'm a joker !

Of course... in the soil the story is different.

Your experience with 20cm DD coil confirms what we already know: it's a really powerful device this TGS.

For PI I suggest too DeltaPulse (or XR71) ... but you can do also hammerhead or some pulsedetektor project, that are very cool.

Kind regards,
Max

[ivconic]

I just saw it....usuall bs! No further comments...

[Fred]

Hi Ivconic,
I dont thinks its the usual BS.This time there is something diferent.I mean, it need investigation.The way it has been built shows its real.No calculator here
Regards,
Fred.

[ivconic]

Hi Ivconic,

I dont thinks its the usual BS.This time there is something diferent.I mean, it need investigation.The way it has been built shows its real.No calculator here
Regards,
Fred.

I said "bs" to describe my doubts on its functionallity. Same as Zahori. Zahori is also workable electronic device. I made it and i saw what is all about.
But working what?
Is it good for accurate long range locating? No! Of course not!
Same with this device. I would swear (without closer look) that it is a sort of "receiver", able to receive hums and mum, interferences and God only knows what else, but i am sure man can not detect remote item with it!
99% of simillar devices are based on some direct receiver design, with huge differences between designs.You can add some stage or not, on it.But at the end you will have low level direct receiver anyway.
Is it workable? Yes. Is it useable? No!
Regards.

[Esteban]

I said "bs" to describe my doubts on its functionallity. Same as Zahori. Zahori is also workable electronic device. I made it and i saw what is all about.
But working what?
Is it good for accurate long range locating? No! Of course not!
Same with this device. I would swear (without closer look) that it is a sort of "receiver", able to receive hums and mum, interferences and God only knows what else, but i am sure man can not detect remote item with it!
99% of simillar devices are based on some direct receiver design, with huge differences between designs.You can add some stage or not, on it.But at the end you will have low level direct receiver anyway.
Is it workable? Yes. Is it useable? No!
Regards.

Of course, if you connect directly a capacitor and antenna to pin 3 of the 3140, you'll catch hums and... You'll design in input "your" gold sensor.

Regards

[Geo]

The problem is who is the "right Gold Sensor"
Best Regards

[Geo]

Ohhh sorry, i forgot.
Welcome again Ivica.
I wish you the Best

[ivconic]

Nelson,Geo,Esteban; best regards!

I see new,unwanted subject will evolve here, so is time to stop and remind ourselves on real subject here - Tesoro Golden Sabre.
Besides i am not interested at all in any lrl....probably it will stay same for good, so i would like to return to subject here...
Other subject are enough explored in own threads....fair enough.
Keep cool...

[Max]

Nelson,Geo,Esteban; best regards!

I see new,unwanted subject will evolve here, so is time to stop and remind ourselves on real subject here - Tesoro Golden Sabre.
Besides i am not interested at all in any lrl....probably it will stay same for good, so i would like to return to subject here...
Other subject are enough explored in own threads....fair enough.
Keep cool...

Hi,
yes I think too this is not the place for LRL considerations... we have to use this thread just for TGS... otherwise it will become a huge mess of various things here... (and there are already a lot of pages here to read).

Kind regards,
Max

[tiktak]

Hi

Hi,
Ivconic !
I am glad to see that you are better.
Hope that will recover at 100% soon.
Did you have snow outside?Or just 15cm ice?
I am waiting for a good day to go and test a good spot.That have shown some coins.
But I am still thinkng that I miss something.Max say 35-38cm for 3,2 coin.!?!?!?
I get much less.Doubts in nulling coil.
Where you digg those 250 coins?From fortress or from village?I still cant notice those good spots!?!?I am shore that you first see the place and now that there is something and then start detect.
I have found 0 coins so far.Well with my other detector some modern coins..............But,,,b.s.
I have noticed that my TGS is very stabile in light soil,but when I go to a mountin fortress it start bla,bla,bla,bla.....the interesting thing is that I saw from two different persons coins found there with old IB's and both have almost the same I think beach comber or what ever,the point is that I have more advanced machine TGS.And still 0..
I were going to ask you again what about 40 cm DD coil?
Or unless 32cm?What will be the number of TX and RX windings?
Because I went and drink coffe with my old friend and he have one detector that I am not shore about the principals of working but its seems that have DD 40 cm and the results are VERY good!!
He have no trouble detecting a small silver piece 2X2 at 50cm in the GROUND!!!
I saw his colection!WWWWow.Before I were shore that I will smash him with my TGS but now.............A lots of coins and other stuffs all are prshes.
Thanks

[tiktak]

Hi,

Hi,
I also just made your charger for 12v batteries,but its seems that I put some TR wrong or my adapter is to week /but I think its not/.Because with no load I have only conected adaptor to circuit and have a upper led diode/I have put red there?/is flashing and at the Battery + and - spots I have 4.07v?!?!?!!?
I have subsitued I think 2 TR's and maybe put them in wrong position.
But I dont have my list with replacements here with me.So next time