TESORO GOLDEN SABRE

[kt315]

big mistake that you do not see differencies between electromagnetic field and electrostatic field, EMF protection and ESF one, respectively.
i call somebody to give you The First Lesson here (better 2-3), be cause my english is very poor. english speaking guys will help.

[mostafalesnar91]

big mistake that you do not see differencies between electromagnetic field and electrostatic field, EMF protection and ESF one, respectively.
i call somebody to give you The First Lesson here (better 2-3), be cause my english is very poor. english speaking guys will help.

The problem is solved. The volume volt/did had a problem. Now I can see it on 10 mv. I set the rx to 2.2, which is 2.2 x 10 = 22 mv, but nothing has changed. See, the rx does not move to the left or right at all, until I see the phase difference 20 degree between Rx and Tx!!

[kt315]

good example that the foiled coil is not possible be balancing. now time to re-go on STANDART way, be back on, graphite layer shield way.

in russian. ЕСЛИ НЕ ДОШЛО ЧЕРЕЗ ГОЛОВУ - ОБЯЗАТЕЛЬНО ДОЙДЕТ ЧЕРЕЗ НОГИ И РУКИ. russian army Rule.

[mostafalesnar91]

good example that the foiled coil is not possible be balancing. now time to re-go on STANDART way, be back on, graphite layer shield way.

in russian. ЕСЛИ НЕ ДОШЛО ЧЕРЕЗ ГОЛОВУ - ОБЯЗАТЕЛЬНО ДОЙДЕТ ЧЕРЕЗ НОГИ И РУКИ. russian army Rule.

If the problem is foil, I have a coil without foil, I will test it right now

[mostafalesnar91]

You could also try an omega coil. It has almost the same characteristics as a concentric, but is easier to construct.

Why can't the rx wavelength be steered left and right so that I can adjust the 20 degree difference? I can only shorten or lengthen the wavelength by moving the coil.

[kt315]

while your coil on table (not moving) you do not need in ESFP. no need the shield.

[mostafalesnar91]

while your coil on table (not moving) you do not need in ESFP. no need the shield.

it is impossible even without foil!!!

[kt315]

you have big massive metal under/near the table. nobody is able to help you

[mostafalesnar91]

you have big massive metal under/near the table. nobody is able to help you

Ok, now I will test vertically with a small coil

[mostafalesnar91]

mission impossible 3!!!

[kt315]

Super Prize from Tesoro company?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMBdvlNN_WA

[waltr]

Getting proper coil nul has multiple requirements.
1- Ensure NO METAL is within a couple of meter of the coils.
2- The Inductance of each coil is critical. The TX and RX coils and NOT the same.
For the TGSL ( & Sabre) First connect the TX coil to the TX OSCILLATOR. Adjust coil turns (inductance) to obtain the correct resonant frequency. Then disconnect and connect the RX Coil. Adjust turns for the correct frequency which is NOT the same as the TX coil. For the TGLS the TX oscillates at 14.5kHz and without changing the Oscillator circuit the RX coil at 13.9kHz.

This difference in resonance is REQUIRED to obtain the proper Phase shift and null which then gets the GB and Discrimination circuits to properly work.

Last, the amount of movement between the two coil to get the null and proper phase shift is tiny. Think of small factions of a mm.
This can be done with or without shielding and I've done it with aluminum foil and graphic shielding. Difference was the foil shiled very slightly reduced to sentivity distance.

Very good documentation of the TGSL building is here:
https://sites.google.com/site/dbcoilshells/home

[kt315]

good way to get VLF coil balanced waltr. i give you step by step manual.

1. do PI barracuda.
2. find a gold
3. sell the gold and get your money
4. buy tesoro coil on the cash https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgXekPQ9CEw

[mostafalesnar91]

Getting proper coil nul has multiple requirements.
1- Ensure NO METAL is within a couple of meter of the coils.
2- The Inductance of each coil is critical. The TX and RX coils and NOT the same.
For the TGSL ( & Sabre) First connect the TX coil to the TX OSCILLATOR. Adjust coil turns (inductance) to obtain the correct resonant frequency. Then disconnect and connect the RX Coil. Adjust turns for the correct frequency which is NOT the same as the TX coil. For the TGLS the TX oscillates at 14.5kHz and without changing the Oscillator circuit the RX coil at 13.9kHz.

This difference in resonance is REQUIRED to obtain the proper Phase shift and null which then gets the GB and Discrimination circuits to properly work.

Last, the amount of movement between the two coil to get the null and proper phase shift is tiny. Think of small factions of a mm.
This can be done with or without shielding and I've done it with aluminum foil and graphic shielding. Difference was the foil shiled very slightly reduced to sentivity distance.

Very good documentation of the TGSL building is here:
https://sites.google.com/site/dbcoilshells/home

Tell me something, preference with inductance or frequency
Which of these two must be correct? Why didn't you say anything about u103 lm358 pin 5? This IC is responsible for adjusting the 20 degree shift spectrum. Of course, I tried it, but this is my test results.

[mostafalesnar91]

good way to get VLF coil balanced waltr. i give you step by step manual.

1. do PI barracuda.
2. find a gold
3. sell the gold and get your money
4. buy tesoro coil on the cash https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgXekPQ9CEw

Mohandes kt
I'm sorry you couldn't get the tgsl coil to work, paying money and buying a ready-made coil is not worth it, you should try to make one yourself.