Red Heat XD 17

[ivconic]

Yes. Good arguments, man just have to agree with.
But i would like to avoid to much scepticism against every small,independant manufacturer and its products...
Must be something in human psychology, we are ready to accept every average product from "Big players" like Minelab,White's,Fisher....BUT WE ARE NOT READY TO EASY ACCEPT eventual small,independent,unknown effort just like that. Usually we put those under "clack" seeking for even slitest detail which easilly leads us to reject and deny any quality and value of that product. I never tested XD 17, i newer saw it, i am not connected anyhow to its manufacturer....yet i like what i saw on that video and fully respect all the efforts given to produce that device. I suggest to give a chance to this one and simillars and to put more criticism on "trash" that "Big players" are trying to sell to us lately. Year by year, "Big players" offers to market more worse product....Funny, strange...but true!
I'll just remind you on Minelab case; what happened to Relic Hawk serie???
Relic Hawk was,is and will be the very best of Minelab products ever.Probably the best VLF ever. Instead holding to that they left it and started producing average detectors. Except Sovereign and Musketeer the rest of their production is scum! Explorer,X-Terra....simillars...nothing but expensive scum!
But i didnt saw neither one of you here ever put any criticism on that! How come? Fear? id ont think so. In our minds we used to give Minelab so much credit.....

I salute this XD17...even it suffers from some drawbacks, it is (according to video) nice design, works well and for sure can beat most of detectors on today's market. With price of 800e it is even better than some "toys" for 1000-1700e...
Give chance to "small" ones!
Best regards!

[gef12]

They are built by Vic Fiveash in London.

Vic's genius puts Bruce Candy of Minelab to shame. IMHO He's probably the best detector design engineer (self taught like we here are) in the world today.

Se what we could achieve if we REALLY tried? I used his old Lightning IV machine once and it saw through the mineralisation on the site I was testing it on better than an Explorer. Was at a rally, the Explorers were only getting 4" max due to the evil ground there, the Lightning was getting easily 8"+ ..WOW

Hmmm
I looked at the tests on the treasure hunting site and I looked at the Red Hat and the Gold Maxx .. did not see anything meantioned in reference to GOLD NUGGETS so I think Bruce Candy and Minelab a quite safe for now.
Cheers

[Max]

Yes. Good arguments, man just have to agree with.
But i would like to avoid to much scepticism against every small,independant manufacturer and its products...
Must be something in human psychology, we are ready to accept every average product from "Big players" like Minelab,White's,Fisher....BUT WE ARE NOT READY TO EASY ACCEPT eventual small,independent,unknown effort just like that. Usually we put those under "clack" seeking for even slitest detail which easilly leads us to reject and deny any quality and value of that product. I never tested XD 17, i newer saw it, i am not connected anyhow to its manufacturer....yet i like what i saw on that video and fully respect all the efforts given to produce that device. I suggest to give a chance to this one and simillars and to put more criticism on "trash" that "Big players" are trying to sell to us lately. Year by year, "Big players" offers to market more worse product....Funny, strange...but true!
I'll just remind you on Minelab case; what happened to Relic Hawk serie???
Relic Hawk was,is and will be the very best of Minelab products ever.Probably the best VLF ever. Instead holding to that they left it and started producing average detectors. Except Sovereign and Musketeer the rest of their production is scum! Explorer,X-Terra....simillars...nothing but expensive scum!
But i didnt saw neither one of you here ever put any criticism on that! How come? Fear? id ont think so. In our minds we used to give Minelab so much credit.....

I salute this XD17...even it suffers from some drawbacks, it is (according to video) nice design, works well and for sure can beat most of detectors on today's market. With price of 800e it is even better than some "toys" for 1000-1700e...
Give chance to "small" ones!
Best regards!

Hi,
yes I totally agree with all you said. There are much credits out there to manifacturers that gained credit with just 1 or 2 products... others are ridiculos and/or really overpriced for my taste for what they really offer.

I like Tesoro's cause they are also cheap... and they don't care of trendy stupidity about newer stuff... I mean funky VIDs and similar craps that, at the end, don't have a big value for the price one must pay for.
Just some testual LCD... enough for me, right choice of them.

Also other but small manifacturers are on the same way ...having good/depth performances without care of advertising or funky gadgets... Nexus and RedHeat seem are in that scenario... advanced machines for expert users : they have all one need to find stuff and don't be ridiculos.

Problem is that sometimes, like in the Nexus or Saxon cases, price is very high and so, even if results are at top performances, many THunters must pass away cause of budget.

I don't wanna make direct calls to any manifacturer... but there are things out there... of very credited brands... that are just a bit above children toys and costs thousand dollars. It's a real shame...and all about advertising.

Also magazines and shops aid in selling even if real experts wouldn't pay that money or waste even a minute with these toys on the field.

It's too easy for them having huge sell of average detectors cause of their credit... and bear-share with magazines and other players.

That's how things go in the real world.

Best regards,
Max

[ivconic]

That is what i am talking about...
From personall experience i know how much it will cost average constructor, but good enthusiast, to "collect all pieces togather" and with huge effort manufacture good,useable detector. Even than his detector is not easy accepted by public. To many demands, while at the same time no such criticism and demands upon some "original" device, even it is less than average on performances...Not fair!
But,as you said it is real world...
Also from personall experience i know that more than 80% of hadnmades i've been seen so far are very descent and usefull devices, may freely compete and possibly beat "originals" in performances. Maybe this sounds like brave claim, but there are a lot of "freelancers" worldvide, not attached to any big company....they are not stupid, those people do know electronics and can design great machines...Just look at this forum.
Unless opsite proved in practice, i am always in mood to salute every independent effort.
If people says Nexus is cool machine, ok it is cool. i'll bee looking forward to check it asap. Also XD17...Also any other...with great expectations.
Again i can only salute those. No criticism,no suspects until checked and obtain personal experiences with those.
Regards

[rink123]

Red Heat XD-17

Ok I Got my Red Heat XD-17 today, the first thing I noticed was how well made and how light it is. I went out with it I had discrim set at 2 to knock out iron only {as I thought },I was digging large iron so it needed to be higher ,as I found out when I came home and did some air tests. The discrim needed to be at 7 to knock out the larger iron but it could still find the small hammered at 12 inches when I tried it with air tests.The machine gives a real good crisp tone when you get a signal and would not be mistaken as iffy . I own an SE and a F75 so I am not new to detectors I believe this machine has good potential especially for the price. I am going to try again tomorrow , I will let you know how I get on. rink

[rink123]

Red Heat XD17 Micro Hi All,
I tried to find out about the Red Heat XD 17 Micro before I purchased one and found very little {except the excellent video on Utube}.
So I took the chance and got one ,and I must say I am very happy so far I thought I would put a post for others to read because so little is written about this machine .

First thing I noticed is it is very, very light and folds down so compact it would fit inside your suitcase ,also its showerproof good for UK.

Second was the audio , you can choose between 2 tones ,the higher pitch for the hard of hearing I presume, cos that one is so loud for me ,the lower tone suits me better but even that is an unmistakable good crisp clear sound .

I found that I was digging alot of iron which I thought was going to be a big problem , my discrim was set at 2 so I upped the discrim . Eventually after trial and error I found that discrim had to be as high as 7 or maybe 8 on iron infested sites and I was still digging large iron at that ,but in all my machines I get a good signal from large iron untill I have at least removed the first clod of soil, so I am happy to be able to discrim against all the smaller iron and don't mind digging the odd horse shoe or plough blade.

Now I was worried that with discrim set so high ,what am I loosing ? in terms of small hammered ,gold rings ,roman brooches
I did air tests with discrim at 7 and the answer was nothing ! ,it was still finding all of these at 10 inches and above , hammered coins were 13inches even when placed on top or behind a piece of iron
The signal was good clean and crisp one that you would definately dig.

This machine doesn't have those "elusive iffy signals", its a good two way signal or it isn't a signal .When passing over discriminated iron sometimes you get a beep but its gone in the next swing , only large iron is dug.

I feel that once I have used this machine more I will know when it is even large iron, after going out twice I am already starting to work this out

I did notice that sometimes my jacket caught the knobs and turned them accidently but this is just a physical problem and once you are aware of it can be solved easily{ maybe a bit of tape once set up or make a cover for the control knobs}.

There is no read out, light ,or any thing, it is just purely sound

This machine doesn't have a speaker so you need head phones {which we all use any way ,so speaker is not really needed}

The machine doesn't have pinpointing you just do the X and find the position, the only time I found this was not spot on was on large iron

The machine doesn't have a threshhold sound but you still hear a kinda thud when nulling over iron , it's really quiet and when you get a signal wham you know you have one!

In air tests I found that my machine equalled the F75 easily



I am aware air tests are not the best way to find how a machine performs but in the couple of times I have tried this machine I am not dissapointed even though I have not found any significant finds such as hammered or gold ,I am finding victorian and georgian easily at 8 inches all I can say is if it gives a 2 way signal then you dig

I bought my machine second hand and although I have tried to contact the maker as yet I have not been successfull , I need to know what the switch at the bottom near where the head phones plug in is for.

My judgement is purely my own findings and I have not been pursuaded in any way to give a good report on this machine, but in the two times that I have been out with it my first impressions are good. I feel confident that if the item is within the depth of this machine I am not going to miss it no matter how much iron is about

[nakky]

Red Heat XD17 Micro Hi All,
I tried to find out about the Red Heat XD 17 Micro before I purchased one and found very little {except the excellent video on Utube}.
So I took the chance and got one ,and I must say I am very happy so far I thought I would put a post for others to read because so little is written about this machine .

First thing I noticed is it is very, very light and folds down so compact it would fit inside your suitcase ,also its showerproof good for UK.

Second was the audio , you can choose between 2 tones ,the higher pitch for the hard of hearing I presume, cos that one is so loud for me ,the lower tone suits me better but even that is an unmistakable good crisp clear sound .

I found that I was digging alot of iron which I thought was going to be a big problem , my discrim was set at 2 so I upped the discrim . Eventually after trial and error I found that discrim had to be as high as 7 or maybe 8 on iron infested sites and I was still digging large iron at that ,but in all my machines I get a good signal from large iron untill I have at least removed the first clod of soil, so I am happy to be able to discrim against all the smaller iron and don't mind digging the odd horse shoe or plough blade.

Now I was worried that with discrim set so high ,what am I loosing ? in terms of small hammered ,gold rings ,roman brooches
I did air tests with discrim at 7 and the answer was nothing ! ,it was still finding all of these at 10 inches and above , hammered coins were 13inches even when placed on top or behind a piece of iron
The signal was good clean and crisp one that you would definately dig.

This machine doesn't have those "elusive iffy signals", its a good two way signal or it isn't a signal .When passing over discriminated iron sometimes you get a beep but its gone in the next swing , only large iron is dug.

I feel that once I have used this machine more I will know when it is even large iron, after going out twice I am already starting to work this out

I did notice that sometimes my jacket caught the knobs and turned them accidently but this is just a physical problem and once you are aware of it can be solved easily{ maybe a bit of tape once set up or make a cover for the control knobs}.

There is no read out, light ,or any thing, it is just purely sound

This machine doesn't have a speaker so you need head phones {which we all use any way ,so speaker is not really needed}

The machine doesn't have pinpointing you just do the X and find the position, the only time I found this was not spot on was on large iron

The machine doesn't have a threshhold sound but you still hear a kinda thud when nulling over iron , it's really quiet and when you get a signal wham you know you have one!

In air tests I found that my machine equalled the F75 easily



I am aware air tests are not the best way to find how a machine performs but in the couple of times I have tried this machine I am not dissapointed even though I have not found any significant finds such as hammered or gold ,I am finding victorian and georgian easily at 8 inches all I can say is if it gives a 2 way signal then you dig

I bought my machine second hand and although I have tried to contact the maker as yet I have not been successfull , I need to know what the switch at the bottom near where the head phones plug in is for.

My judgement is purely my own findings and I have not been pursuaded in any way to give a good report on this machine, but in the two times that I have been out with it my first impressions are good. I feel confident that if the item is within the depth of this machine I am not going to miss it no matter how much iron is about

Hi Rink,the swiths is for a 13Khz or 17Khz coil.Grt Nakky.

[rink123]

Thank You very much now I know

[nelson]

Hi rink123.
Yes, it looks that this detector is a good machine and i agree with you that there is not enougf information about this detector.
When i saw the youtube video, istart my interest about this detector, but has we all know not to much information about it.
So until now i wish you luck on your field test and we hope to know about your expirencies.
Best regards
Nelson

Red Heat XD17 Micro Hi All,
I tried to find out about the Red Heat XD 17 Micro before I purchased one and found very little {except the excellent video on Utube}.
So I took the chance and got one ,and I must say I am very happy so far I thought I would put a post for others to read because so little is written about this machine .

First thing I noticed is it is very, very light and folds down so compact it would fit inside your suitcase ,also its showerproof good for UK.

Second was the audio , you can choose between 2 tones ,the higher pitch for the hard of hearing I presume, cos that one is so loud for me ,the lower tone suits me better but even that is an unmistakable good crisp clear sound .

I found that I was digging alot of iron which I thought was going to be a big problem , my discrim was set at 2 so I upped the discrim . Eventually after trial and error I found that discrim had to be as high as 7 or maybe 8 on iron infested sites and I was still digging large iron at that ,but in all my machines I get a good signal from large iron untill I have at least removed the first clod of soil, so I am happy to be able to discrim against all the smaller iron and don't mind digging the odd horse shoe or plough blade.

Now I was worried that with discrim set so high ,what am I loosing ? in terms of small hammered ,gold rings ,roman brooches
I did air tests with discrim at 7 and the answer was nothing ! ,it was still finding all of these at 10 inches and above , hammered coins were 13inches even when placed on top or behind a piece of iron
The signal was good clean and crisp one that you would definately dig.

This machine doesn't have those "elusive iffy signals", its a good two way signal or it isn't a signal .When passing over discriminated iron sometimes you get a beep but its gone in the next swing , only large iron is dug.

I feel that once I have used this machine more I will know when it is even large iron, after going out twice I am already starting to work this out

I did notice that sometimes my jacket caught the knobs and turned them accidently but this is just a physical problem and once you are aware of it can be solved easily{ maybe a bit of tape once set up or make a cover for the control knobs}.

There is no read out, light ,or any thing, it is just purely sound

This machine doesn't have a speaker so you need head phones {which we all use any way ,so speaker is not really needed}

The machine doesn't have pinpointing you just do the X and find the position, the only time I found this was not spot on was on large iron

The machine doesn't have a threshhold sound but you still hear a kinda thud when nulling over iron , it's really quiet and when you get a signal wham you know you have one!

In air tests I found that my machine equalled the F75 easily



I am aware air tests are not the best way to find how a machine performs but in the couple of times I have tried this machine I am not dissapointed even though I have not found any significant finds such as hammered or gold ,I am finding victorian and georgian easily at 8 inches all I can say is if it gives a 2 way signal then you dig

I bought my machine second hand and although I have tried to contact the maker as yet I have not been successfull , I need to know what the switch at the bottom near where the head phones plug in is for.

My judgement is purely my own findings and I have not been pursuaded in any way to give a good report on this machine, but in the two times that I have been out with it my first impressions are good. I feel confident that if the item is within the depth of this machine I am not going to miss it no matter how much iron is about

[Unregistered]

chums

I think many English chums work hard on this promotion. Many say that this machine is Tesoro copy. What do you think about this.

[rink123]

I think many English chums work hard on this promotion. Many say that this machine is Tesoro copy. What do you think about this.

I am sry cos i dont Know, no one in the UK who as a Red Heat xd17, plus no one know much about them,from what i can find out, and i am not trying to promote them thats for sure, But i will let you know how i find it ,and sry i have not had a Tesoro so i cant say.

[Qiaozhi]

I am sry cos i dont Know, no one in the UK who as a Red Heat xd17, plus no one know much about them,from what i can find out, and i am not trying to promote them thats for sure, But i will let you know how i find it ,and sry i have not had a Tesoro so i cant say.

You may not want to do this just yet - BUT - is there any chance you could open up the control box and take a few photographs of the innards?

[Unregistered]

part nos

If you can just list the parts ( IC's ) this will give some clues as to what type of copy it is. English detectors are always copies.

[nakky]

You may not want to do this just yet - BUT - is there any chance you could open up the control box and take a few photographs of the innards?

You cant open it,it is total sealed,you have to cut it open.Grt Nakky.

[Qiaozhi]

You cant open it,it is total sealed,you have to cut it open.Grt Nakky.

Maybe it never goes wrong, or needs any servicing.
Anyway, thanks for looking.