The danger with minelab detectors

[Unregistered]

What is the chance that the faulty technology in the latest gpx4500 detector has found its way into minelabs anti mine detectors! I have read on another site that by using a faulty detector and not detect a mine you could be blown up. I hope this has not happened.

[Max]

What is the chance that the faulty technology in the latest gpx4500 detector has found its way into minelabs anti mine detectors! I have read on another site that by using a faulty detector and not detect a mine you could be blown up. I hope this has not happened.

... too funny!

I don't know... but maybe lamebin stuff... like someone said... is not that special at the end of the day!

Well, there are real PEARLS from there.... but some... uhm better avoid one for most modern landmines.

Also mines today have so small metallic content... some have NO METAL inside... that would be a real suicide hunting for them with an MD in a modern minefield, I mean.

If the scenario is Cambodia or Afghanistan you'll be ok with a traditional set for demining... a good MD I mean, but if something "fresh" style... wow... you'll be busted using one there, lamebin expecially I think!

Kind regards,
Max

[Esteban]

... too funny!

I don't know... but maybe lamebin stuff... like someone said... is not that special at the end of the day!

Well, there are real PEARLS from there.... but some... uhm better avoid one for most modern landmines.

Also mines today have so small metallic content... some have NO METAL inside... that would be a real suicide hunting for them with an MD in a modern minefield, I mean.

If the scenario is Cambodia or Afghanistan you'll be ok with a traditional set for demining... a good MD I mean, but if something "fresh" style... wow... you'll be busted using one there, lamebin expecially I think!

Kind regards,
Max

By the way, If you can't detect a plastic mine or a small spring inside them, and you sell as mine detector, well... you know!

[Max]

By the way, If you can't detect a plastic mine or a small spring inside them, and you sell as mine detector, well... you know!

Hi,
this is not correct...

when you sell an MD as mine detector it's obvious that you take care of searching for metallic content in mines.

If you know that the mines there are without any metal you MUST not use the MD there. Really simple.

In some actual demining sets the MD is an hybrid type that has a small GPR antenna at coil, you could use them also in no-metal minefields, cause they give you the resolution required at few cm from soil.

They are slow, heavy and not so easy to use but could really be employed safely in such operations.

So... the problem is that some operators could ignore there are full-non-metallic mines and try to use the simple MD anyway, obtaining a big blast!

Or ,with other words they lack of training...

That's why more important than device is training you must provide to demining operators before let them go for real demining stuff.

Kind regards,
Max

[Esteban]

Hi,
this is not correct...

when you sell an MD as mine detector it's obvious that you take care of searching for metallic content in mines.

If you know that the mines there are without any metal you MUST not use the MD there. Really simple.

In some actual demining sets the MD is an hybrid type that has a small GPR antenna at coil, you could use them also in no-metal minefields, cause they give you the resolution required at few cm from soil.

They are slow, heavy and not so easy to use but could really be employed safely in such operations.

So... the problem is that some operators could ignore there are full-non-metallic mines and try to use the simple MD anyway, obtaining a big blast!

Or ,with other words they lack of training...

That's why more important than device is training you must provide to demining operators before let them go for real demining stuff.

Kind regards,
Max

I think the best way for to detect mines is... treading on it! Any volunteer?

But you can training your men with DOD game!

Regards

Esteban

[Esteban]

I read that some "genius" are designing mine wich explodes in presence of MD oscillator in the nearby.

[Esteban]

IIWW German MD. Read complete article here:

http://images.google.com.py/imgres?i...007-22,RNWM:en

[Esteban]

Dertector mounted on bycicle! All you can think another think before!

[Carl-NC]

I have read on another site that by using a faulty detector and not detect a mine you could be blown up.

You had to have someone tell you this?

[Max]

IIWW German MD. Read complete article here:

http://images.google.com.py/imgres?i...007-22,RNWM:en

Hi Esteban,
that picture is really interesting to me. I saw a similar unit in an old photo (maybe early 60's made) in which I see one of these carried by 2 person and a separate device , hand held carried by another man but linked with main unit by a cable few meters long.

Do you know about it ?

Kind regards,
Max

[eclipse]

on the bycicle detecting thing.., two coils - OK. both of them - on the sides,
nothing infront, cheesh i think the user will have to check himself for landmines, in case there is, the user will be retired to long time..

[Esteban]

Hi Esteban,
that picture is really interesting to me. I saw a similar unit in an old photo (maybe early 60's made) in which I see one of these carried by 2 person and a separate device , hand held carried by another man but linked with main unit by a cable few meters long.

Do you know about it ?

Kind regards,
Max

Hi Max,

Don't know about the detector you refer. Regarding German IIWW, I found in internet. Also I want "nazi" MD schematics for curiosity but can't found! But if I find some interesting, I'll let you know.


Regards

Esteban

[Esteban]

NOT FOR HOBBY... YES FOR JOB!!! COLLECTING SCRAP METAL (VIETNAM WAR ERA) FOR TO SELL!!! DANGEROUS JOB!!! SEE 20TH APRIL POST AND NAVIGATE IN THE GALLERY

http://images.google.com.py/imgres?i...WM:en%26sa%3DN

[Esteban]

NOT FOR HOBBY... YES FOR JOB!!! COLLECTING SCRAP METAL (VIETNAM WAR ERA) FOR TO SELL!!! DANGEROUS JOB!!! SEE 20TH APRIL POST AND NAVIGATE IN THE GALLERY

http://images.google.com.py/imgres?i...WM:en%26sa%3DN

And... wich kind of MD is?

[Max]

And... wich kind of MD is?

Seems a BFO toy...

I wouldn't be surprised of a big blast there from time to time...

Kind regards,
Max